Abel to Yzerman

Abel to Yzerman

Hang Tight

03/08/2024 at 8:30pm EST

Good evening and welcome to all. I would like to say thank you to everyone who stayed until the bitter end last game. I hope the Red Wings have learned that there is no such thing as an easy win. Two points the hard way. Time to hang tight, 19.

It’s the Red Wings vs the Coyotes. The puck is set to drop around 9:00 PM and will be broadcast on Bally Sports Detroit, and on the Red Wings Radio Network 97.1 (The Ticket in Detroit). Also available on ESPN+/NHLPP, SCRIPPS, and SPORTSNET+.

It’s a Live Blog!

bezukov

As Neil Young said, Tonights the Night.  

bezukov

Thanks for the LB Kate.  The Wings are in must win territory this evening.  

calquake

Hola Kate, Paul and the rest of our reprobate family. To say tonight is a must win is an understatement. Especially considering playing Vegas on a back to back tomorrow. Isles only 2 pts. back. Get it in gear boys. L.G.R.W.

rwbill

Hola Kate and all, and thanks for the LB!  The 10 point lead on the NYI has disappeared in just over one week.  The surprising part is not that the Wings lost to a SC Final favorite in Florida, or losing to the NHLs best home team, but that the NYI have won five consecutive.  With 20 games left its a dead heat again.

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bezukov

Intellectually I am glad that the Wings did not make a move today.  The Wings are playing with house money this year.  

Emotionally it was a huge let down.  I am ready for the Wings to be back in the spot light.  

Paul

Yotes traded Jason Zucker and Matt Dumba today, two regulars out of the lineup tonight.

No reason for the Wings dropping a game tonight to them.  

Half the rink should be wearing the winged wheel, start and finish strong.

rwbill

Kate I know you said you enjoyed the Mandalorian, albeit that was 2-3 years ago?  If you have Apple TV have you watched Masters of the Air?  Its done largely by the same group and same manner as Band of Brothers, following a Bomber Group based in England.  I am horribly disappointed in myself for not learning more about this aspect of the War before.  These were crazy brave people flying into flak and head on German fighters.  

At the same time Im reading a book Mission about actor Jim Stewarts childhood, pre-war Hollywood career and subsequent military career, which takes place at the same time as Masters of the Air. 

Just stunning brutal way to try to win a war. Brute force and attrition. 

Katerwbill

Hey RW, I have not watched that series. Actually my subscription to Apple TV just expired on 8/2, but, my lucky half will re-up. I do enjoy a good book too, cause Im part old-school. Masters of the Air eh? I will check it out. 

Bill_HKate

Try "https://fmoviesz.to/home" but, as always, make sure you have excellent anti-virus and internet security (a VPN is also a good idea, e.g. NordVPN).  You see most everything for free.

PaulKate

I'm hooked on it.  Although I don't have much time to watch regular TV, I can't wait for the next episode.

I never realized the fly boys took so much punishment while in the air.

ChetPaul

Masters of the Air is very good. if you want an easy-reading book by one of the crew members of the B17, pick up Serenade to the Big Bird. you absolutely will cry.

Kate

The Patrick Roy coached Islanders are hot on our heels indeed. Theres some motivation.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

rwbill

I was thinking the same Paul.  Its always a big turnout in Phoenix. Hard to tell what it will be like in the cavernous Mullett Arena, all 4600 capacity.  There were tickets available today on the web at a marked up price. Hope theres a big showing.  Desperately need the 2 points tonight.

Katerwbill

Hockeytown West is what we used to call it when I lived there. Always a good time at the AWA.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

rwbill

Who scored the first goal in Mullett Arena?

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A.  Josh Doan, the son of former Coyote Shane Doan, for Arizona State University. 

bezukov

The Wings are playing in a fancy garage tonight.  Fun.  

rwbill

Bezukov5 minutes agoFlag

Intellectually I am glad


I dont have to worry aboot the intellectual part ever, but Im glad they didnt make any kind of sideways move.  Its a good vote of confidence to Berggren and that tall Swedish defenseman kid that the franchise says that theyre as good as any NHLer they could have picked up.  Maybe well see them plugged in this year and provide a spark.  Happens frequently down the stretch every year. 

stonehands78

I'll take "A Win & 2-points" for 1,000 kate.

LGRW

rwbill

Right Kate, Im enjoying the Jimmy Stewart book a lot more than I thought.  The author did tons of research and personal interviews and writes a lot of great first person stories and conversations.  I knew he was in uniform in the War but no idea he was leading combat bombing missions over Germany.  The attrition rate was horrible.

bezukov

Lol.  The camera is SO CLOSE to the ice.  

Chet

this camera angle is disorienting. also WTF WINGS!?

rwbill

Sumbitch.  Playing out their ass with multiple turnovers in front of Lyon already.

Chet

ghost is just so bad at actual defense. it's so frustrating.

stonehands78

like Stevie said this afternoon, we need better defense all the way around ... 0-1

bezukov

I said something earlier today about the Wings making careless dump out plays into the neutral zone that nullify the good goaltending they get.  I blame that on the coaching staff.  

rwbill

Ill reiterate that Phoenix is 15-16 at home, so they need to play a good game to win.  There are 3 teams in the West that are a lot worse than the Coyotes. 

Kate

Ghost disappeared again. So disappointing.

Chet

ghost again just caught looking. gotta bench this guy.

Chet

what a stupid penalty from perron. these guys need to calm the F down and get it together.

bezukovChet

Some nights Perron looks like hes lost.  I like him but I really hope rumors about a contract extension for him arent true.  

Chet

it's interesting: we know arizona doesn't have the best player personnel, but the systems they play are so different from what i'm used to seeing. this PP breakout, for example, is downright weird to me. they skate like 100 miles to gain the zone, but it works!

bezukov

I love these guys, but goddamn theyre a team full of shrinking violets.  Its way past time for someone other than Dylan Larkin, and occasionally DeBrincat to show some heart and lead this team when the chips are down.  Im so sick of watching folding lawn chairs every time it rains.  

calquake

If Patrick Kane truly wants another Cup, he won't stick around here. Let's be honest, the Wings are 2-3 years away from contending for Stanley. And that is a best case scenario. The rebuild continues.

Cigar-Nurse

Hola 19. Just tuned in to see number 2.  This looks like how we left this site the other night. The yotes played last night so we need to lean on em hard.  LGRW 

Kate

You figure if a few million people left Detroit some of us landed in Phoenix. 13 years in the Valley of the Sun. It was wonderful. Especially after the Coyotes came to town, and the Wings were in the Western Conference. Good times.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

RWHockey13

There goes tightening things up defensively. In one ear and out the other. This will be three or four in a row. Terrible and they have 7 D and cannot stop the shots against. 

Boy, does this team need better D and stronger two-way forwards. The postseason season will give the team and GM more time to rest and rethink this roster.

Bill_H

Well, it ain't over 'till it's over...as I say with a glass of wine in my hand.

rwbill

JFC.

Too many men.  A Babcock-Blashill specialty. 

bezukov

Too many men on the ice.  Simply unreal.  

Chet

ghost is now -17 on a team that's +14 as things stand right this second. 

sure, flawed stat in any one game, but over a season? he needs to basically be the 11/7 PP guy and otherwise not have a regular shift unless it's starting in the O-zone after the opposition's 4th line has iced the puck. 


i don't understand why the coaching staff hasn't figured this out by now.

Chet

this is unbelievable. i may need to turn this off.

bezukov

0-3.  Too many men on the ice.  Good thing they do not track errors in hockey.  

rwbill

Well that was a quick cross and shot into an open half of the net. 

Can they get out of this period?

Chetrwbill

in fairness, that was a great pass, but there should never have been a PP. this is just a fiasco. and you know ARI is so bad they could come back, but why let this happen? this is one of their worst periods of the season!

calquake

I may bail early. Wings showing me they are not, as a team, ready to play for the playoffs. But it's nice they have good team spirit. /s

Cigar-Nurse

Garbage sponsor patch leads to garbage play. Pull the cranium oot of the rectum boys. 

Bill_H

Am I in the Twilight Zone?  Who are these guys?

EthrDemon

Which one of these teams is in the playoff hunt?

bezukov

Id call that pathetic if it didnt seem like too nice of a word . 

Kate

That was dreadful, but, if they can score 3 then we can score 3. Right?

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

rwbill

They are capable of erupting for 3 or 4 goals if Larkin is out there.  Can someone else step up with energy?  Like Fabbri.

damndogrevenge

Hi Kate,

Hi all, 

My wife and I are in New Mexico. I just tuned into the game on 97.1. Yucko! 


Two periods to go! Let's Go Redwings!!!

stonehands78

SY:


"Obviously, this first period is ... not great."

"Ultimately we need to play better defense."

"I hope it comes in the second period."

... 

Cigar-Nurse

Saw the earler posts about the air corps in WW2. Have been reading voraciously lately and am reading a book called The Wingmen. Its about Ted Williams and John Glenn in the same squadron in Korea. 

One of the main reasons for the high casualty rate in Europe was the US flew the day missions while the Brits flew at night. 

Had an Uncle who was a tail gunner on a B 29 there. When the Memphis Belle movie came out, he refused to see it saying while it was a true story, that was pure propaganda to sell war bonds.  

bezukov

I hope Lalonde is going full Letterkenny hockey coach on these guys.  Trash cans need to be flying everywhere.   Its fucking embarrassing.  


RWHockey13

They are not coming back from a 3 goal deficit. They have guts when Larkin is around but otherwise nobody steps up. Raymond or Seider should get a fire under them and start taking charge. 

Perrons pep talk is gone. Kane as the alternative A should have a locker room talk. It is like they lost themselves as hockey players. And the deadline is not an excuse.

Perhaps Lalonde needs to express some fire or discipline to some players. It is not just letting the players figure it out. Sometimes lighting a fire is necessary.

Hopefully, the next game someone gets things going and stirs things up. But this may be it for them. Could turn out to be a terrible March for them who knows. 

Steve, really needs to start turning over the roster. Leaving the likes of Fabbri and such is not the best. Hopefully, draft picks earn some spots on the forward side and defense. 

Cigar-Nurse

We need the Cat to start leading these guys. He was brought here to score more than he has. Especially with Kaner on his line. 

Kate

STFU Ken. SWM too.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

calquake

Why don't you just lay down Wings? FFS

Chet

OMG another wings Dman just floating and doing nothing? no way! petry this season was a bad mistake.

dcaChet

I am watching the Coyotes broadcast and that goal was on Raymond who wasnt skating or moving his feet and the winger snuck off towards the net

Chetdca

maybe, i can't see it again with my viewing options, but when an off winger is supposed to be responding to a chance inside low in the circle, something else has definitely broken down. not worth the debate, their team defense we'd all agree has been abysmal this game. utterly pathetic showing.

bigfrog

0-4 Shut the door, and maybe the playoffs too?😡

rwbill

Well, the answer is yes, to the question can it get worse?

RWHockey13

I like Yzerman, but he is the one keeping the kids in GR. He is depending on Chariot, Holl, and Petry along with Olli. It will not work.

And some of our forwards are not that great on the forecheck. Lately Ras and Veleno too soft. Then Fischer and Sprong not so great either.

Sorry folks just tired of this nonsense.

dcaRWHockey13

Counting on kids during a playoff stretch is a worse idea.


esp young defenders. If you think Ghost makes dumb turnovers

RWHockey13dca

Wait, what? Never said that at all. Talking about the roster itself. Those D are just not good enough.

RockyGibraltar

So much for getting as many points as games on this road trip. 

Bill_H

Some said we couldn't come back from 0-2.  Some said we couldn't come back from 0-3.  I could say we can't come back from 0-4 without Larkin.  :-(

rwbill

Young guys have a chance to establish themselves as invaluable in the absence of Larkin.  Raymond, fabbri, even debrincat, can they be standalone leaders, or only when they are riding the coattails of Dylan Larkin.

dca

I think everyone needs to face facts: the Wings are an easy team to play against physically. 

That starts showing up this time of year.

calquake

This may well end up a very disappointing season when all is said and done. Don't wanna see Ghostbear or Perron back. Add in Petry as well. Throw in Holl and Copp. I'm tired of waiting for Ras to blossom. As you may notice, I'm pissed off by these lackluster showings lately. 

Chet

that's fair, there has been a LOT of poke and pray this game.

bezukov

Ozzie is high acting like 5-0 would be the end of our chances tonight.  

bezukov

Every one of their shots is from 40 ft+.   No wonder they can solve this goalie.   Quit passing and shoot. 

Chet

yeah, DCA, goal 4 looks to me like not one but BOTH D being lost puppies, confusing their wingers, and allowing a chance that should never have happened. 

we all know 53 is basically the only stud D on this team, and maybe 96 is serviceable. after that, you're gonna have a bad time.

Cigar-NurseChet

I believe Seider is learning his game by the seat of his pants. Who has he really had to mentor him is his early career?  

bezukov

The only thing needed to make this complete is Brady Dumbchuck taunting the Wings in front of heir own bench and all of them just taking it.  This is shameful.  Where is their pride?

calquake

Here's my last contribution for the LB and then I'm oot: A sleepwalking dog walks into a bar and says to the bartender, "I'm a cat". The bartender replies, "Yes you are!" The dog again says,"I'm a cat". Again he bartender says, "Yes you are!" The dog turns around and leaves. A patron sitting at the bar says, "Why are you agreeing with that sleepwalking dog?" The bartender replies, "Don't you know? You have to let sleeping dogs lie." Later taters.

bigfrog

See you next for the Saturday Slaughter.😡

bezukov

Can they just call the Griffins up for tomorrow?

dcabezukov

Arizona didnt have a shot for the first 16 mins of the 3rd period (they did hit the post).

Kate

The octopus has more life in it than the Wings.

bezukovKate

I would have carried it back to the hotel and thrown it away there. 

rwbill

Reimer carries the weight of the team tomorrow

dca

This was the worst 2 back to back games Ive seen the Wings play all year.

bezukovdca

Three games.  Florida gave them an early morning fire drill too.

bezukov

Sick.  Sad. Disgusted.  Embarrassed.  Dunno if Ill see yall tomorrow.  Might need a day off from this.   Love yall.  Night. 

RockyGibraltar

Only Wing to show up tonight was CHL. 

calquake

You know it's a really lousy performance when I get 3rd star for the night. :)

Cigar-Nurse

Should of thrown that octopus on the Wings bench to express their lifeless limp effort tonight.  

Until tomorrow, gnite 19. 

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