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Winning Despite Bad Analytics

02/19/2023 at 6:27pm EST

from Bob Duff of Detroit Hockey Now,

While the club’s recent five-game win streak has succeeded in bringing the Red Wings into the thick of the NHL’s Eastern Conference Wild Card playoff hunt, the fact of the matter is that the underlying numbers may be suggesting that it’s all fool’s gold.

In all five of Detroit’s victories, the underlying numbers are displaying that the club was being significantly outplayed. The measurable of this fact is shots attempts, referred to as SAT in NHL analytics. It’s viewed as a reflection of how much time a team spends in the attacking zone. In several games, this difference was extremely lopsided. Overall, the Red Wings are at a 424-251 disadvantage in shot attempts over the past six games. In even-strength shot attempts, commonly referred to as Corsi, the Wings are showing a 339-170 disadvantage through those same six contests.

In the two wins over Calgary, the shot attempts were 72-39 Flames (2-1 Detroit victory) and 80-40 Flames (5-2 Detroit win). During the 5-4 shootout win at Edmonton, SAT favored the Oilers 80-40. Even in the 6-1 rout at Vancouver, the Canucks were holding a 59-41 shot attempt edge.

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damndogrevenge

We have a good goaltender those teams have a mediocre one. Please make that a new stat. 

utahgentile

What are the blocked shot comparisons in those games?

nctheo

I guess it depends on how reliable those metrics are as predictors of wins and losses. 


If the team with the better Corsi beats its lesser opponent say, only 47% of the time, then you gotta wonder.

Maybe factoring in home ice would make a difference. But then how do you quantify that?

bigfrog

True. In the games they won, The Red Wings were out shot. They were barely out shot in Seattle, but lost.

TreKronor

Lalonde is always taking about winning the advanced stat game (in games they've lost)... Guess it depends on which stats people want to look at.

I've always been a believer that anyone can cherry pick stats to make any assertion they want to. 

damndogrevengeTreKronor

Lalonde reminds me more of Maxwell Smart when he speaks than Uncle Fester.Missed it by that much!

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