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Focusing On Lucas Raymond After His Hat Trick In Chicago

from Kevin Allen of Detroit Hockey Now,

Lucas Raymond should buy himself a car and start looking for his own place. Detroit Red Wings coach Jeff Blashill made a point to say Raymond’s appearance on the opening day roster didn’t mean he officially made the team. If he didn’t measure up, the Red Wings were prepared to send him to their minor-league affiliate in Grand Rapids....

Long-time Red Wings executive Jim Devellano says Raymond has traits that remind him of a young Steve Yzerman. That seems particularly relevant now that Raymond is the first Red Wings player 19 or younger to register a hat trick since Yzerman did it in 1985.

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from Ted Kulfan of the Detroit News,

"It was fun, for sure," Raymond said. "To get the bounceback win after a tough night last night (loss in Montreal) and first hat trick. You're always trying to score and sometimes you do and just trying to keep pushing. My mindset was to just win the game and the scores helped."

It was the first hat trick for a Wings player age 19 or younger since Steve Yzerman — who drafted Raymond in the first round in 2020 (fourth overall) — in 1985. Only Yzerman, Gordie Howe and Raymond have notched four points in a game.

"It's tough to take in," Raymond said of being in that sort of company. "Those two are the greatest to play in franchise history. I'm trying not to think about it too much and just keep playing and working."

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Below, watch the extended game highlights.

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Max Bultman of The Athletic,

Sunday night, on the second leg of his first road back-to-back in the league, Raymond potted his first career hat trick and added an assist. It propelled the Red Wings to a 6-3 win Detroit badly needed over Chicago — and, individually, it made Raymond the third teenager in franchise history with a four-point game. The first two: Steve Yzerman and Gordie Howe…

It is, indeed, absurd company with whom to share a distinction. Howe and Yzerman are two of the greatest players in the history of the sport. They are no one’s “bar,” certainly not the kind of standard to which Raymond is going to be held, now or ever.

But the fact that this kind of tidbit exists at all, let alone this fast, does mean something for the Red Wings. Not because the 19-year-old can be expected to keep scoring at this rate (it’s far too early for that), and not because an October game means much of anything in the grand scheme (it doesn’t). But rather because, in Raymond, Detroit is getting a jolt of so many things it has so badly needed….

As exciting as Raymond has been through six games, it is still too soon to know whether he will be the kind of foundational building block teams hope to find in rebuilds. It’s still too soon to know anything, really — much as those stats mentioning Yzerman and Howe might obscure that.

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Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 10/25/21 at 02:55 AM ET

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I do want to take anything away from Raymond but Bert really was seeing the ice well again last night. He has definitely been the straw that stirs the drink.
Raymond has gotten himself wide open often to his credit but I can see teams start keying on him. If that is the case, Bert and Larkin should have no problem stepping up.

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 10/25/21 at 08:11 AM ET

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I do want to take anything away from Raymond but Bert really was seeing the ice well again last night. He has definitely been the straw that stirs the drink.
Raymond has gotten himself wide open often to his credit but I can see teams start keying on him. If that is the case, Bert and Larkin should have no problem stepping up.

That’s something this team hasn’t had since, really, Zetterberg and Datsyuk were on a line together.  You want to focus on Datsyuk?  Go ahead, it’ll give Z more space to score.  Same with this Wings top line right now - teams can focus on one or two of the players but that is going to leave one of the forwards more open to score…and they can. 

It’s almost like we have a true top line again haha

Posted by TreKronor on 10/25/21 at 09:46 AM ET

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Jeff Blashill made a point to say Raymond’s appearance on the opening day roster didn’t mean he officially made the team. If he didn’t measure up, the Red Wings were prepared to send him to their minor-league affiliate in Grand Rapids.

This guy makes me sick.

Posted by exor54 on 10/25/21 at 11:52 AM ET

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Wings place Kyle Criscuolo, he’s been playing in GR, 29 years of age.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 10/25/21 at 01:10 PM ET

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This guys is quite literally nobody, but:

@JeffSelmon
Pat Verbeek and Kirk Maltby scouting the Blue Jackets vs Stars game here tonight in Columbus. Maltby was here Friday as well against the Kraken.

#RedWings #Scouting #NHL
12:05 PM · Oct 25, 2021·Twitter for Android

Posted by ilovehomers on 10/25/21 at 01:21 PM ET

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It’s almost like we have a true top line again haha

Posted by TreKronor on 10/25/21 at 10:46 AM ET

For sure TreK! Like you mentioned I have been this excited about a line since the Euro twins!

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 10/25/21 at 01:25 PM ET

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Maybe I missed the announcement but did anyone else hear the Hawks play by play guy, Pat Foley, say that Bertuzzi remains the only unvaccinated NHL player? When was that announced?

Posted by calquake from Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst on 10/25/21 at 01:33 PM ET

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Posted by calquake from Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst on 10/25/21 at 02:33 PM ET

Not sure if there was an announcement but:

Zac Rinaldo isn’t playing, not even the AHL.
Travis Hamonic (rumored he’s unvaxxed) is on a leave of absence.
Josh Archibald - LTIR
Mackenzie Blackwood - got his first shot last week (it’s just being reported today)

Posted by ilovehomers on 10/25/21 at 01:40 PM ET

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did anyone else hear the Hawks play by play guy, Pat Foley

I try not to as much as possible.

Posted by TreKronor on 10/25/21 at 01:42 PM ET

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Posted by ilovehomers on 10/25/21 at 02:40 PM ET

Thanks homers.

Posted by calquake from Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst on 10/25/21 at 01:48 PM ET

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I try not to as much as possible.

Posted by TreKronor on 10/25/21 at 02:42 PM ET

Ain’t that the truth.

Posted by calquake from Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst on 10/25/21 at 01:49 PM ET

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slightly off-topic :

wings need a stay at home #1/2 D man with a chelios like air about him – someone w/size/strength to make you think twice about going for that rebound.

would love to hear the conversations SY is having w/gm’s concerning bert..

Posted by rickytarr on 10/25/21 at 01:54 PM ET

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I think there’s more of a chance hronek gets moved than Bert

Posted by ThatGuy on 10/25/21 at 02:09 PM ET

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Posted by ilovehomers on 10/25/21 at 02:21 PM ET

I’m all about some early season trade speculation!


Bertuzzi for Werenski 1 for 1?

 

 

 

 

Posted by MZ2215 on 10/25/21 at 02:15 PM ET

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Posted by ThatGuy on 10/25/21 at 03:09 PM ET

This. Bertuzzie isn’t getting moved.

But Hronek is much more likely.

On a team with players who are either a top 2 or potential top 2, he can’t perform against lower quality lines?

He had more PP time than any other D and still can’t produce.

He’s a 3/4th D on his best day.

We have plenty of those.

Now if Leddy leaves (which is the most likely scenario) then we have some concerns.

But we kept Errorson far longer than anyone should have and he barely could score 15-20pts in his prime. The same for Hronek.

Unless Hronek suddenly has a come to Jesus moment, he’s not suddenly going to become a top 2 D.

Stetcher looked much better in his second game than first game.

Posted by retrospecd on 10/25/21 at 02:28 PM ET

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Well the post is about the young guy and I would like to say, he is as good as you believed he is and as good as the reports from across the pond.  The comparisons are too early but keep this guy safe from injury, I’d assign a personal trainer to him with instructions to keep watch, learn everything about him right down to how he sleeps on his pillow.  I believe we can win a cup with this guy, he is that good.  I like how the players are standing up for him, that is needed cause he still is just 19 and is fragile, and I hope mgt has laid the law down about dirty stuff and dirty players to watch out for. 

And yes, Foley did say Bert was the only player in the NHL not vaccinated, not true.  The gumball probably meant on the Red Wings.

Posted by jhpcarrier97 on 10/25/21 at 03:21 PM ET

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It can be hard to project a really young prospect’s offense
from Sweden, playing against men, in a league where young players
usually don’t get the most ice time or prime opportunities.
Add in an elbow injury and it was even harder to get a read.
Most of us thought Raymond would need some time to adjust to NA and get bit bigger and stronger. I sure did.

What I thought was: this is supposed to be a really smart with a good shot,
but he’s not a burner. Will he be too deferential? Will he find the time and space he needs. Yes it’s early and yes opponents will game plan for him.

But it shows that if your sense and competitive level and skill are that high
a guy as young as Raymond can pop offensively right away when he has the chance to play with the most skilled, offensively aware players.

I also like his personality. He is confident but respectful.
Doesn’t seem wowed - maybe by some of the early comparisons
- but not on the ice. He just plays his game. It’s extra fun that Seider
and Raymond are not only enjoyable to watch but likable players.

Posted by lefty.30 on 10/25/21 at 04:41 PM ET

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Bertuzzi remains the only unvaccinated NHL player? When was that announced?

Posted by calquake from Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst on 10/25/21 at 02:33 PM

Elliotte Friedman reported it on Saturday:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/red-wings-tyler-bertuzzi-set-unvaccinated-active-nhler/

Posted by EthrDemon on 10/26/21 at 12:29 AM ET

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When is the NHL going to get this kid’s picture up?

Posted by Matt_in_MI on 10/26/21 at 06:03 AM ET

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