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Video- Sunday The NHL Celebrated International Women’s Day

via the NHL's YouTube page,

The National Hockey League celebrates International Women's Day by going with an all-female broadcast.

 

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I watched most o the Calgary game and the crew there was very good.  It was the first time I heard Leah Hextall do play by play and she should be a candidate for the Seattle job, would be a very good fit.

Cassie Campbell-Pascall and Chris Simpson I have heard numerous times in the past and did a fine job.

I didn’t watch the NBCSN broadcast so no comment from me on it.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 03/09/20 at 10:11 AM ET

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Not for nothing but I watch my sports to get away from woman and need that to revive myself . GOD made man and woman different for a reason and this society needs to stop with trying to say we are equal when we’re not. I would say woman are probably the better of the 2 but we can never be equal because we were made totally different. I resent anyone forcing me to agree with things. I have a right to disagree and watch what I want to. I come from a home with a mom and 6 older sisters which I respect and love dearly. But when society starts trying to tell GOD he made a mistake that’s where I draw the line. Men can never care for a child the way a woman can, we don’t have the great intuition woman have. A woman can never be stronger then a man because GOD didn’t make her that way.
  Do I agree with equality with jobs, pay and rights? ABSOLUTELY HOWEVER I WANT TO LISTEN TO A MAN DOING MEN’S SPORTS. This political correct nonsense is getting out of control and men are losing more and more rights every day. Hell we can’t even tell a woman her outfit is nice because that’s considered sexual harassment. A woman isn’t my buddy and I don’t speak with the same language when a woman is around because I RESPECT HER! I don’t curse in front of a woman, I open doors for them, help them with packages or anything else they need from me. When I’m around other guys we do guy stuff that most woman don’t like and that’s why we can never be equal.

Posted by Johnny Red on 03/09/20 at 04:50 PM ET

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Welcome to KK Johnny Red and making your views on this topic.

I am sure some people will agree, some disagree but this is why KK was created in the first place.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 03/09/20 at 04:53 PM ET

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I didn’t hear any of the Sportsnet broadcast but some excerpts I heard of the Chicago v St. Louis game were admittedly pretty subpar.
Now is that subpar because I’m putting it under a different lens of scrutiny than I would any other stretches of play by play and commentary where I might half tune out? Was it subpar compared to the Jack Edwards cartoon? Or to established familiar voices who drone on too long pumping up some stars or league-featured teams or going off on too many digressions during game action where one wants real-time game insight? Quite possibly. Do flaws stand out because it (the sound of the voices and personalities) sound new and unfamiliar to my ears? Then again, when I hear a grating announcer who is a man I often do notice and start turning down the sound. When I had Center Ice via satellite, I heard all the local teams and some of the voices - honestly even just the tone and sound of the voices themselves could turn me off. If you read this blog you will see commenters ripping lots of studio analysts, play by play people and color commentators who are men. I’ve done it including recently. Eventually there are going to be women who do these jobs who some flat out don’t like listening to, find rambling, biased, annoying to the ears, you name it. But it’s tricky because any halfway thoughtful person can understand the relative pressure of being new and scrutinized due to your identity. Where does one draw the line between being honestly critical (not pandering or self-censoring) but also not being a jerk who piles on unfairly. Everyone has been the new person at a challenging job before and made mistakes. We don’t usually face that live, nationwide.

There are always going to be people who jump to the top of a field because they have a big name or are related to someone or are otherwise connected. Some actually end up having the talent and crazy work ethic to redeem that and then some. Some don’t. I think this novelty event in some ways doesn’t do the women doing this hard job (we should try it if we think it’s not!) many favors. It puts a lot of scrutiny and pressure on people who might not be ready for the big stage and it emphasizes their sex over anything else. Just as some men who do this job have annoying voices and cadences and so on, some of the women will, too. A really nasally voice can be hard to take whether it’s a man or a woman. This might be slightly controversial and I’m not going to claim to have read the studies, but I have repeatedly heard it cited that sometimes many men do find at least some women’s voices harder to listen to. And maybe some of us have traditionally associated interacting with women with certain contexts and roles and not others. I’m not justifying that normatively. I’m just trying to get at where the “don’t I have any refuge from that anymore?” type of comments might come from. There might be something in the pitch or range or variation of some women’s voices that some men find harder to listen to on a very basic not even conscious level. I’m not saying that’s true or that it justifies being a bigot or jerk. But I’m wondering if there is something to that.

I have no doubt there is real talent and work ethic among women who are wanting to break into this field. My guess is it might benefit the field, the sport and the women wanting to break in, if there were fewer high-profile novelty events and more focus on people working lower leagues and paying their dues and making sure they’re both ready to do the job at the highest level and truly know the nuances of the league and the teams and players. Again, that’s not to say all the men paid their dues over so many years and rings of the ladder. But someone who went through those rungs himself as a player and who lived and breathed the league over a playing career within it might have a legit head start. I’m a little wary of league execs deciding: we need women now! How about that one! And elevating someone way too fast who isn’t ready to be as good as she could be. And again, if we’re honest, some women will be legit really good and others might not be. We have to be able to say so without it becoming political. Does anyone consider it political when we have had enough of Pierre McGuire?

If anyone watches The Hockey Guy on YouTube, he strikes me as a very decent sort who is knowledgeable, honest, and fair, and unbiased. His brief comments in his wrap-up of those two featured games last night might be interesting perspective.
It was interesting in the comments because there was the full-spectrum: nuanced criticism; people anguished that their sports retreat felt invaded; people making what seemed like dutiful default praise; people offering legit criticism but maybe being too harsh; people who were totally paranoid and reactionary; and one person who replied to every critical comment by screaming “STFU if you don’t have anything nice to say” and calling people names….

I was going to post a clip of the St. Louis v Chicago game as an example of seriously not ready for primetime announcing. But maybe it would be more fair to try to find a clip of better work from the same game to post as well. What I heard was really bad. But no one should be judged by one clip out the context of one of their first games.

Posted by lefty.30 on 03/09/20 at 05:58 PM ET

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