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Video- Comparing The Dave Bolland Hit Last Night To The Recent Raffi Torres Hit


First the Bolland hit from last night and in case you are wondering, the NHL will take no action on the hit.

 

 

Below is the Shanahan video of the Torres hit and to refresh your memory, Torres was suspended for the rest of the WC semi-finals.

 

So, should both hits be classified in the same category?

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mrfluffy's avatar

Hope the MSM keeps bringing this up.

Not like it will matter.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 06/02/13 at 02:09 PM ET

silversailer's avatar

Honestly, It didn’t really even look like Bolland hit him. Maybe there was slight contact, but not nearly the same.

Posted by silversailer on 06/02/13 at 02:37 PM ET

Luongo-is-my-hero's avatar

wow he totally left his feet and went straight for the head.

Posted by Luongo-is-my-hero on 06/02/13 at 02:38 PM ET

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Honestly, It didn’t really even look like Bolland hit him. Maybe there was slight contact, but not nearly the same.

Get real…

wow he totally left his feet and went straight for the head.

Exactly. That’s one of the most blatant attempts to injure that I’ve seen. Jesus Christ. Clean hits are being penalized severely and shit like this goes unpunished. Suck a dick, NHL.

Posted by godblender on 06/02/13 at 02:48 PM ET

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Bolland’s route takes him through the center of Richards’ body. Torres’ route intersects only with Stoll’s head and not the rest of his body.

What the player’s line intersects with is how Shanahan establishes “targeting.”

So, while Torres and Bolland both have the head as the principle point of contact on their hits, only Torres fulfills the condition of “targeting” necessary to be suspended under rule 48.1.

NHL’s walking a fine line in selling violence while suspending for other, similar violence.

Questions like this: “So, what’s the difference between the Bolland hit and the Torres hit?”
burn me.

The difference is one of these hits is something they almost always suspend for and the other is a hit they never suspend for. Shanahan has released video after video explaining what the NHL does not want. There are no hits like the Bolland hit in any of those packages. That “Kevin Kurtz” of comcast does not watch them is evidence only of his ignorance, not Shanahan’s “inconsistency,” which is a myth.

NHL’s got a have your cake and eat it too problem. They want to sell violence while decrying it. Shanahan and the governors set a bunch of standards, stick to them and ignore everything outside of it. That might be Quixotic, myopic…any number of descriptors, but the one thing it is definitely NOT is inconsistent.

Posted by larry on 06/02/13 at 02:56 PM ET

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Richards is bent over at the waist when he is hit by a side glance. There is no targeting of the head. This is a non issue.

Posted by timbits on 06/02/13 at 03:13 PM ET

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The first thing the Bolland hit brought to mind was a “Kronwalling”, he turns his back to Richards and hits him with is upper back, much like Niklas Kronwall does, there is no danger in making the head the “principal point of contact” and you dont have to worry about getting your shoulder or elbows up around the guys noggin’, this seems like its going to be the new way players throw heavy hits…

Posted by pgoody on 06/02/13 at 03:15 PM ET

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Should have been called for charging because he left his feet, but not comparable to Torres’ hit.

Posted by Hootinani on 06/02/13 at 03:38 PM ET

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I agree with the Charging.  A penalty, but not a suspension.

Posted by zombietroy on 06/02/13 at 06:40 PM ET

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Thought it was a charge but as others have said, don’t think it is as comparable as others may think.

Posted by phillyd from Southern New Jersey on 06/02/13 at 07:58 PM ET

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What about the blatant interference on Marchand when he blew-up Letang 30’ from the puck during a Boston 2-on-0?

I still can’t believe that didn’t get called. Actually, I can.
The NHL’s drastic downward spiral in regards to a consistent standard has never been more laughable.

Posted by Hank1974 on 06/02/13 at 09:42 PM ET

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From the first angle, it looked like he murdered him with a flying elbow. From the other angle, it’s a garden variety charging minor. From the ref’s angle, it was “letting them play.” It’s only the third one that concerns me. If they overcalled it, at least they’re paying attention. If they correctly assessed it, they’re doing their job. If they ignored it, they might as well not be there.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 06/03/13 at 12:16 AM ET

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Bolland turns and tries to play the puck before he hits Richards… Torres stick in air at waist height.

Posted by tkfergy on 06/03/13 at 01:14 AM ET

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What about the blatant interference on Marchand when he blew-up Letang 30’ from the puck during a Boston 2-on-0?

I have a feeling that would have been called had Letang also not embarrassingly flopped in trying to sell it.

The refs should have blown that play dead and given matching minors to Marchand and Letang.  Then the only way it could have been better is if Bergeron had also finished on his breakaway only to see it immediately waved off on the matching penalties.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 06/03/13 at 08:58 AM ET

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Posted by larry on 06/02/13 at 02:56 PM ET

Larry, I really appreciate your thoughts on this, and think you’ve really hit the nail on the head as to what the real problem is that the league is having. It’s trying to make the rules up as it goes. In a way, I have a hard time criticizing the league for this because I think some evolution as the games go on is necessary. But certainly the problems that come with this evolution could be minimized if the league would ask themselves honestly what their priorities are, and draw a line in the sand that is transparent for all the players, coaches, managers, media members, and fans to see.

To this particular hit, the only part I would pull back on what you said is that Bolland does seem to jump into the hit. He doesn’t get that high off the ice, but this doesn’t look like a guy’s back leg popping off the ice after the collision, this looks like his front leg popping up and into the hit.

That being said, you do have to consider the history of each player, and Torres has a history of bad hits that is maybe only matched by Matt Cooke in the post-lockout era.

I don’t think there’s any doubt that the Kings missed out on what should’ve been a minor penalty for charging. As for supplemental discipline, I can understand that this is borderline in so many ways, and as such, these are the types of hits where I’d like to see the NHL use near punitive fines, since suspension seems incorrect, but there’s still a valid desire to discourage this kind of reckless play.

Admittedly, I’m ignorant here as to what limits (if any) the CBA puts on fining players, so perhaps someone that’s a little more CBA-literate (or is willing to look it up smile) could chime in.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 06/03/13 at 09:36 AM ET

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