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Right Now, No Optimism In Sight

from Elliotte Friedman of CBC,

I spent time over the past couple of weeks talking to people on both sides; people who were optimistic as the 2011-12 season ended. People who believed all of this could be avoided. I was surprised at the level of anger, bitterness and hatred.

We're probably about a month or two away from really realizing how long this is going to go. But, even if this season is saved, the scars will be visible and deep. All of that anger gives Bettman and Donald Fehr plenty of ammunition to maintain hard lines. They don't care what the fans think, and, in times like this, they are both paid extremely well to ignore public pressure.

When players/executives/owners say they see this going into next season, I believe them. Right now, there is little reason to believe otherwise.

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I understand why the players are infuriated about the threat to their already-signed contracts, especially after this summer’s spending orgy. The owners aren’t as enraged as the players

If this is what the players are truly outraged about, offer a contract proposal that grandfathers in these contracts and a phased in player total of HRR to say 52%, with a larger share of revenue sharing and keep the hard cap? I predict this would break open the discussions and they can get a deal done.

Posted by timbits on 10/14/12 at 12:55 PM ET

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Completely OF TOPIC but Felix Baumgartner Landed Perfectly from a Sky dive from 128,000 Feet !

GOOD GOD He is either Suicidal or NUCKING FUTS!! BUt CONGRATS!!!

Posted by Evilpens on 10/14/12 at 01:28 PM ET

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Perhaps since NHL owners are comparing themselves to the other sports they might notice that the Yankees aren’t selling out.  The jets have tons of tix available. 

Have these leagues finally priced the fan out of the game?

Maybe they have killed the Golden Goose.

Time for a reality check.  Real unemployment is 20 % or more.

These leagues just keep charging more and more.

With big screen TV why sit in cold or with loudmouth drunks and pay a fortune for the privilege?

Uh oh I just gave them an idea.

Pay per view.

I’m sure it’s next.

Greedy B@ast@rds

Posted by 13 user names on 10/14/12 at 03:11 PM ET

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Also what about the 131 Europeans that lost their jobs when NHL guys sign over there?  This is the oddest “union” I’ve ever seen.  I never recall my dad taking another mans job during a labor dispute.

Posted by 13 user names on 10/14/12 at 03:14 PM ET

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Then are the Euro’s that come over taking N. American players jobs?  Does that road go both ways?

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 10/14/12 at 05:13 PM ET

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Then are the Euro’s that come over taking N. American players jobs?  Does that road go both ways?

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 10/14/12 at 06:13 PM ET

Two wrongs make a right?

Unions are, by their nature, self-serving.

13 User Names make a very valid and damning point. Sorry, I can’t side with the players.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 10/14/12 at 06:49 PM ET

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Unions are, by their nature, self-serving.

but owners aren’t?

when audults fight over something, it’s usually the kids(fans) who suffer the most.
whatever comes out, we won’t benefit from it.

but beeing an audult in real live and reading, wathcing and listening to the arguments of both sides, leaves with the conclusion that the nhl is batshit crazy.

so what should the players do? professional athletes usually have no choice than to play if they want to continue earning with hockey. the nhlpa always said that they have no problem with playing under the old cba until a new one is done. so actually the nhl is forcing them out of their usual habitat. the comparison to a strike is invalid.

 

Posted by Joe Z. from Austria on 10/14/12 at 08:59 PM ET

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Every single one of those 131 European hockey players have the opportunity to compete to be the most-marketable player on the team. People pay to see the best hockey players play and if a better one comes along that’s going to make fans show up and watch then that’s what a team is going to want on their roster.

Why aren’t you screaming about the owners of those foreign teams giving those poor displaced European jobs away as though a man who is worse than hockey than another man but has been on that team longer has some sort of a claim to the roster spot.

...as though European audiences won’t go in higher numbers to see the best players.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/14/12 at 10:25 PM ET

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As in pretty much all other things: as soon as personal interest is involved, things like morals, standards and consistency suddenly become a lot less important.

It’s all about union brotherhood for workers until their job is on the line against someone elses.  Then it’s the Thunderdome and the other guy can go bleep himself.

It’s all about ‘growing the game’ for owners until they see an opportunity to reshape the financial dynamics of the league, then it’s shut down the sport for 2 full seasons in an 8 year span.

It’s all about ‘We hate you greedy bastards and we’re never coming back!  Neenerneener!’ from the fans until the game actually does come back and they’re hoping enough other people stayed away to move their season ticket seats up a row.

The percentage of people who take a principled stand and actually keep to it to the detriment of their own personal interests is exceedingly small.  The number of people who do that in something as broadly unimportant as a sport is smaller still.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 10/15/12 at 07:20 AM ET

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  Unions are, by their nature, self-serving.

but owners aren’t?

Why create a strawman? No one said, that I can see, that owners are not self-serving, too.

But the discussion wasn’t about the owners, it was about the players. The owners have never put up much of a fake facade that they are the victims. The players, well…

And, they take jobs from Euro players over in those leagues.

They (NHL players) want you to know they are victims, but some victims are less important than others, and those Euro players who are now out of work because North American players have taken their spots, well, those are victims we don’t need to really discuss at this point.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 10/15/12 at 08:02 AM ET

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when audults fight over something, it’s usually the kids(fans) who suffer the most.
whatever comes out, we won’t benefit from it.

but beeing an audult in real live and reading, wathcing and listening to the arguments of both sides, leaves with the conclusion that the nhl is batshit crazy.

What are these “Audults” you speak of? Did you mean to say you married into Donald “Audette’s” family?  I didn’t know he had so many family issues, best of luck…

Sorry, I’m too funny

Posted by LivinLaVidaLockout on 10/15/12 at 09:24 AM ET

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Posted by 13 user names on 10/14/12 at 04:11 PM ET

I pay for ppv hockey, unless it’s a hot mike on the ice with no commentators.

Posted by FlyersFan on 10/15/12 at 11:17 AM ET

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