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Video- Jason Pominville On The Receiving End Of A Dustin Brown Elbow

No penalty of the play and Pominville has not returned to the game.

 

 

added 10:05pm,

 


Pominville missed 9 games in October, 2010 with a concussion.

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goon's avatar

Should be a 2-3 game suspension, but it’ won’t happen, Shanny doesn’t have the stones to do it.

Posted by goon from Grand Forks, ND on 04/23/13 at 09:57 PM ET

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For those of you who noticed the embedded tweets were always timestamped 4 hours ahead of the tweet, well that was a Twitter issue and was resolved today.

So hopefully no more tweets posted in the future tense.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 04/23/13 at 10:10 PM ET

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I don’t have a single problem with Brown defending himself from a guy racing in to hit him from behind. If Pommenville didn’t want to get hit in the head, he shouldn’t have come in with his face at Brown’s shoulder level.

As Mickey likes to say, “The way to cut down on hits from behind is to feed the guy the butt end of your stick.” Pommenville’s just lucky that all he got was a legal shoulder hit.

Suck it up, fer criminey’s sake. It’s hockey, not tiddlywinks.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 04/23/13 at 11:29 PM ET

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wait… did you call a blatant elbow to the face a “legal shoulder hit”? pause the above video at the 14 second mark. it’s not even CLOSE. nothing resembling a “legal shoulder hit”. Your argument only works if he did in fact hit him in the head with his shoulder, but in fact, he did not. So this “head at shoulder level” business is just not applicable here. An elbow to the face is an elbow to the face no matter what era it is.

and as a Wings fan, I’d sure be happy with a one game suspension at this point… I don’t even really care if the play deserves it or not. It would just be nice to not have Brown on the ice. And with Pommenville out, perhaps concussed, and Brown getting nothing on the ice, I’m sure it’ll at least be looked at. That would be a nice consolation to Minny winning.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 04/24/13 at 12:44 AM ET

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I meant seeing that Minny won… which was definitely bad for us

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 04/24/13 at 12:45 AM ET

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100% agree perfection.  No one’s expecting an elbow to the face because an elbow to the face is illegal in itself, regardless of where the head is located.

I’d be stunned if he didn’t get a call from the Shannahammer.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 04/24/13 at 02:12 AM ET

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Certainly should’ve been a penalty, but a suspension?  Come on…

Posted by Garth on 04/24/13 at 07:38 AM ET

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elbowing, intent to injure, hit to the head… any one of these would apply here. I wouldn’t expect ANY supplemental discipline, except the league pretends that it wants to end the concussions. For that reason, I’d expect to see Brown sit out for a while, except that his team is in a playoff hunt.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 04/24/13 at 07:57 AM ET

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Brown post-game via LA Kings Insider,

On his second period hit on Jason Pominville:
“I haven’t seen it yet, but I had the puck on my stick. He’s coming to hit me. I’m just bracing myself. Almost the reverse. I don’t know. Like I said, I haven’t seen it.”

On whether he expects to “hear from the league”:
“Like I said, I haven’t seen it.”

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 04/24/13 at 08:02 AM ET

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I believe it was an intentional elbow to the head which caused a concussion. Tootoo was suspended for 5 games I believe when he was a predator for punching a guy who was going to charge him for a legal check on a teammate. This is worse, imo.
BUT
The Wheel Of Justice, NHL style, won’t reflect that.

Posted by teldar on 04/24/13 at 08:08 AM ET

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via Russo’s Rants,

Brown, who amazingly has never been suspended, does this time and time again and somehow gets away with it. I was told today by a league source that he came “very close” to getting suspended for what I thought was a very dirty elbow on Dallas’ Antoine Roussel two nights ago.

We’ll see if he gets away this one. He didn’t brace himself. He swung his elbow sneakily into Pominville’s face, and even though Yeo didn’t provide a report postgame with the dreaded “C” word, it sure looked like it. Frankly, and maybe one reason why Yeo was restrained after the game, the Wild probably doesn’t want L.A.’s captain suspended. The Kings play in Detroit on Wednesday.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 04/24/13 at 08:13 AM ET

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Brown made it through the entirety of the playoffs last year doing stuff like that, don’t know why the league would start doing their job now.

Posted by Hootinani on 04/24/13 at 08:44 AM ET

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Well, it sure couldn’t hurt the Wings if he’s suspended. So I say DIRTY hit! Give the goon a 1 game suspension, at least.


Really though, weird hit. He looks like he’s trying to defend himself buttttt I think Shanny may use the argument, “regardless of intent, the elbow made direct contact with the head.”

That’s why the Department of Player Safety suspends Dustin Brown…for tonight’s game against the Red Wings only… And J. Quick.

Posted by Tony Perkis from Drinking at Robert's Lounge with Billy Batts on 04/24/13 at 08:50 AM ET

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And it may not be worth much, but Roenick said last night Shanny would likely be giving Brown a call. He has laid the lumber pretty heavy and received some dirty hits in his day.

Posted by Tony Perkis from Drinking at Robert's Lounge with Billy Batts on 04/24/13 at 08:56 AM ET

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Brown does have a 1pm ET phone hearing today.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 04/24/13 at 11:08 AM ET

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Your argument only works if he did in fact hit him in the head with his shoulder, but in fact, he did not.

He ended up hitting him in the head because Pominville lowered his head. It looked to me like Brown was trying to do pretty much the same thing that Pavel does when guys run at him from behind. He braces himself and delivers the hit to them before they can hit him.

The only one who really knows what Brown’s intent was is Brown. It’ll be Shanny’s job to figure that out.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 04/24/13 at 11:39 AM ET

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intent doesn’t always matter. think high sticks… how often does a player “intend” on hitting someone in the face? I think head shots are similar. It’s not often that a player is TRYING to hit someone in the face, but more often than not, it’s a matter of poor decision making, poor timing, and poor execution. Like the headshot the other night on Huskins - you could tell that Ryan White wanted to make a huge open ice shoulder to shoulder hit. That was his intent. But he kamikazed across the ice, timed it horrible and caught ALL jaw. That makes it a BAD hit. But I don’t think he intended on hitting him in the jaw.

So either Brown intentionally and viciously elbowed him in the face or he tried to “brace himself” and lean back into a hit he thought was coming, timed and executed it poorly and caught him square in the face with an elbow. Either way, it’s an elbow blast to the face. I think intent should only come into how many games, not whether it deserves discipline.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 04/24/13 at 12:13 PM ET

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Don’t see where Pominville is “going to hit” Brown.  Clearly Pominville was going for the puck (not the body), and that’s the reason why his head is a bit low.
Brown, on the other hand, could care less about the puck, and his only aim was Pominville’s head.
As a RW fan I’d love to see Brown suspended.

Posted by wings8 on 04/24/13 at 01:10 PM ET

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Anyone saying Pominville is lining up Brown from behind is clearly not familiar with Pominville. If given the choice between (hit guy) and (retire from hockey), Pominville would probably choose the latter.

Generally I’m fine with guys getting an elbow up on someone who’s about to charge them, but that isn’t what Pominville’s doing here.

And Brown’s been playing with house money on the suspension front for quite a while.

Posted by larry on 04/24/13 at 01:21 PM ET

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How is Brown supposed to know that is Pominville? What if that was Clutterbuck? No doubt a hit is coming. I would say 90% of the time a hit is coming in that situation. Is a player just not supposed to brace himself just in case the poke check is coming instead of being bodied up? Def unfortunate for Pominville, but dont lead with your face next time.

Posted by lv2skor on 04/24/13 at 01:48 PM ET

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watch the video: Brown is looking directly at Pominville, Brown’s head turned in Pom’s direction, he sees Pominville going for the puck, and still chooses to hit him with an elbow, just can’t miss a chance to put his elbow “to work”.

Posted by wings8 on 04/24/13 at 02:15 PM ET

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Looking the other way when someone throws an illegal check to save himself from a big hit he knows is coming is already a huge concession to a puck carrier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FS3xMoEFJU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5bVMC8Q0D0


Allowing him to grievously and intentionally (look how high Brown’s elbow is here) foul a player he doesn’t know is lining him up or not lining him up, is a bridge wayyyyy too far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05-O-uRuKyY


And, in any event, Brown can see the player isn’t trying to check him by the reflection in the glass (which is the same thing he uses to know where to put his elbow). Brown, in particular, is abnormally good at tracking players by the reflection in the glass. He uses that ability to dive on minimal contact and draw boardings, more or less, constantly.

Posted by larry on 04/24/13 at 02:19 PM ET

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watch the video: Brown is looking directly at Pominville, Brown’s head turned in Pom’s direction, he sees Pominville going for the puck, and still chooses to hit him with an elbow, just can’t miss a chance to put his elbow “to work”.

Posted by wings8 on 04/24/13 at 02:15 PM ET

He’s not. He’s tracking him on the glass. Draw a line from the way Brown’s head is faced to the glass and back out. The line intersects Pominville.

Posted by larry on 04/24/13 at 02:23 PM ET

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Wings8 . . .I didnt say he didnt look to see if a player was coming at him. You are assuming Brown was able to infer in the few seconds he had that it was Pominville coming at him rather than any other of the 17 skaters wearing red. Do you/have you played hockey in a checking league? Pretty tough to know who is coming at you at all times during a game, especially in Brown’s situation. Many times you are only able to deduce jersey color in that amount of time.

Posted by lv2skor on 04/24/13 at 02:28 PM ET

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Someone here compared Brown in this situation with Datsyuk.
Absolutely invalid comparison.  Datsyuk when getting ready to be hit protects himself with the shoulder, not with the raised elobow pointed into opponent’s face.

Posted by wings8 on 04/24/13 at 02:34 PM ET

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How is Brown supposed to know that is Pominville? What if that was Clutterbuck? No doubt a hit is coming. I would say 90% of the time a hit is coming in that situation. Is a player just not supposed to brace himself just in case the poke check is coming instead of being bodied up? Def unfortunate for Pominville, but dont lead with your face next time.

I definitely agree in principle but since Pierre-Marc Bouchard plays for the Wild I’d say there’s at least a 2/12 chance the Wilds forwards will absolutely not finish their checks.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 04/24/13 at 02:36 PM ET

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Kings just called up a forward, maybe they know or think Brown will get at least a game.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 04/24/13 at 02:42 PM ET

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Good news smile

Posted by wings8 on 04/24/13 at 02:44 PM ET

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Posted by larry on 04/24/13 at 02:23 PM ET

Hey Larry, Melnyk has some video he wants you to look at….

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 04/24/13 at 03:44 PM ET

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intent doesn’t always matter. think high sticks… how often does a player “intend” on hitting someone in the face?

Okay, perfection, I’ll give you that one. If that’s the way the rule is going to be interpreted (as in “careless use of an elbow”), then Brown should get a penalty. But, as Garth suggested, I don’t see it as a suspendable offense. Obviously Shanny saw it differently. So be it.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 04/24/13 at 03:45 PM ET

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