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Chris4Wngs's avatar

Paul,

What do you think Sinclair’s long game is. They are now off of YouTubeTV, SlingTV, and Dish Network. Do you think they are angling their own online platform for regional sports channels?

Posted by Chris4Wngs on 02/27/20 at 02:00 PM ET

Paul's avatar

There has been talk like that in the past Chris.  The ilitch’s were thinking of something like that in the past but haven’t seen anything like that recently.

Perhaps the losing environment of the Tigers and Wings has something to do with it.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 02/27/20 at 02:03 PM ET

Paul's avatar

There is a Reddit thread going on which I am sure will draw the attention of many.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 02/27/20 at 02:05 PM ET

Paul's avatar

Email from YTTV,

Our goal with YouTube TV is to offer you the content you love, delivered the way you want.

To make this happen, we need to enter into deals with our partners. Unfortunately, we have been unable to reach an agreement with Sinclair to continue to carry the FOX Regional Sports Networks and YES Network.

Starting February 29, 2020, you will no longer be able to watch live, on demand, or recorded content from your local FOX Regional Sports Network or YES Network.

Please know that we do not take this decision lightly. We value your membership and will continue to strive to build the best streaming experience possible.

Sincerely,
The YouTube TV team

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 02/27/20 at 02:17 PM ET

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Perhaps Sinclair can unleash some of its unbiased investigative correspondents on this.

Posted by Unhealthy Scratch from The Land of Potential Bottom Six Skill on 02/27/20 at 02:49 PM ET

Nate A's avatar

If i’m an advertiser, I’m pissed. This is the second service they’ve lost in something like 6 months. How many lost views does this result in? And how long before they start losing fights with Comcast, Charter, Direct TV, etc?

But should also be an opportunity for the NHL and other leagues to ditch the archaic blackout restrictions on their streaming services and pick up many of the subscribers lost because of these disputes.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 02/27/20 at 03:12 PM ET

Red Winger's avatar

Well, as a YouTube TV subscriber, this sucks

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie, MI on 02/27/20 at 03:13 PM ET

Royal Grand Exalted PooBah's avatar

But should also be an opportunity for the NHL and other leagues to ditch the archaic blackout restrictions on their streaming services and pick up many of the subscribers lost because of these disputes

Just like any large corporation they treat their customers like garbage because they know you don’t have a choice and so Bettman and the NHL will likely continue to sell your viewing rights for as much as they can get and they don’t care if you actually get to watch the game or not. That is my opinion on it.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 02/27/20 at 04:00 PM ET

Steeb's avatar

This is among the reasons I have no qualms whatsoever about using grey market streaming to watch games. BTW that, the incessant ads on the boards, glass, and soon uniforms, and the little 5/10 second micro-ads they shoehorn into any space they can btw whistles, they can suck it.

Posted by Steeb on 02/27/20 at 04:21 PM ET

ilovehomers's avatar

Wanted to cut the cord last year. Wife didnt let me.

We are going to cut it this year and I was thinking YTTV. My friends will cut that out now.

Ill just have to go with Steeb and stream all my hockey from the man cave.

Posted by ilovehomers on 02/27/20 at 04:25 PM ET

d ca's avatar

Perhaps Sinclair can unleash some of its unbiased investigative correspondents on this.

Posted by Unhealthy Scratch on 02/27/20 at 01:49 PM ET

+1 on the humor. Take it you’ve seen the creepy video with the local news anchors being forced to read Sinclair’s editorial contents word-for-word.

As far as Sinclair’s long game. PPV sports and stifle competition. Plain-and-simple.

Reminds me of AT&T Uverse issue from Oct 2011 when NHL Network was pulled after AT&T wouldn’t agree on a new carriage contract (even though AT&T owned a part stake in a sibling company of NBC Universal). It took until Nov 2016 for the channel to return.

For those that don’t know about BAMTech and the NHL, here is some info:

https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/the-walt-disney-company-to-acquire-majority-ownership-of-bamtech-2017-08-08

https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2018/03/29/bamtech-s-nhl-gm-seeks-product-innovations.html

The days of watching the Wings/Tigers for free died with the move to PASS. Makes you miss Ray Lane.

Posted by d ca on 02/28/20 at 08:17 AM ET

Steeb's avatar

Now that I think about it, isn’t Sinclair the company that does at least international distribution of English Premier League and a bunch of European football leagues? I haven’t heard much good at all about them, their price fixing, or their monopolistic practices. You practically have to be a 1%er (or a sports bar owner) to be able to afford their soccer packages.

Posted by Steeb on 02/28/20 at 02:29 PM ET

Paul's avatar

Ongoing negotiations, YTTV will continue to stream.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 02/29/20 at 08:08 PM ET

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