In general fans grossly overestimate the expected outcome of first round picks outside the top 3 or so.

Put it this way: since 1966 there have been 38 forwards selected at #8 OA. By my subjective count:

1 clear-cut hall of famer (Sittler)

2 borderline/controversial hall of famers (Roenick, Gainey)

3 consistent first-line talents (William Nylander, Couturier, Larouche)

3 other forwards with 500+ career points (Corson, Samsonov, DeBlois)

3 too early to call (Mittelstadt, Jack Quinn, Kasper)

26 players who topped out as middle six forwards or worse. The best of these are guys like Devin Setoguchi, Pierre-Marc Bouchard, Niklas Sundstrom, and Pat Elynuik, who topped out as solid second-liners but didn't have much staying power (fewer than 5 seasons in the top 5 of team scoring).

Basically, if you're drafting a forward 8th overall, the default assumption is that you'll probably wind up with a player who has a relatively short peak as second liner but falls quickly out of the league (e.g., Setoguchi) or a dependable third liner who scratches out a 10+ year career as a supporting player (e.g., Boedker). And that's the median outcome, so half of all players drafted 8th are at this level or below.

If Kasper becomes a dependable two-way second line center and sticks in the league for 10 seasons that would be a really good outcome relative to draft position.

And now they're using statements instead of just talking to each other. So unnecessary.

I think I'm going to use this example for a leadership class I'm taking right now.