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The Asking Price For Thomas Vanek

from Brett Crygolis of the New York Post,

Thomas Vanek certainly enjoyed his time in Sochi, just as he is enjoying his time with the Islanders — and both situations will be short-lived.

It’s inevitable that by the March 5 trade deadline, general manager Garth Snow will trade Vanek, now even more so in the wake of star center John Tavares’ injury, sustained while playing for Team Canada en route to its gold medal. The Islanders are 12 points out of a playoff position with six teams to leapfrog as the final 22-game stretch begins on Thursday with the Maple Leafs at the Coliseum.

The big story now is what can Snow get in return for the 30-year-old sniper. Looking for at least a first-round pick, in addition to a second-rounder or a high-level prospect, the asking price is similar to what Snow sent the Sabres for Vanek on Oct. 28, minus the inclusion of pending free agent, Matt Moulson. Vanek has already turned down a seven-year, $50 million offer Snow put on the table, as he is determined to reach free agency on July 1.

“It’s part of the business,” Vanek said. “I’ve been through it once now, and whatever happens, happens. I’m happy to be back here today to see the guys and practice and get ready for Thursday.”

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Anyone think he’s going to get the asking price?

Posted by VitoLambruski on 02/24/14 at 10:17 AM ET


Yeah, probably.

If Paul Gaustad was worth a first rounder to Nashville then I’m sure Vanek is worth a first and a second/prospect to somebody.

Posted by Garth on 02/24/14 at 11:17 AM ET


Would you give a 1st and 2nd round pick for him? Do you think a 1st-rounder plus one of our d-men in waiting would get it done? I guess that probably depends on the league-wide view (or at least, Garth Snow’s) of the potential of any of those guys…

Posted by VitoLambruski on 02/24/14 at 11:23 AM ET


If it’s a team a Vanek away from being a conference favorite, maybe.

For Detroit?  No way.  Especially since the trade Detroit would need to make for him is a #1 and Nyquist or Tatar and if Vanek’s really serious about being a UFA there’s no way I’d want Detroit to make that trade and THEN have to swim the UFA market to keep him longer term.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 02/24/14 at 11:40 AM ET


I cannot fathom any team on this earth that would give up a Nyquist/Tatar or even Jurco plus a 1st or 2nd-round draft pick for a rental player. Nyquist and Tatar are basically established NHLers at this point, so to call them prospects is a bit misleading.

I agree, though, that Vanek seems destined to land at a conference favorite. No way any team ponies up that kind of package unless they feel they have a serious, serious shot at a Cup.

Posted by VitoLambruski on 02/24/14 at 11:53 AM ET


Would you give a 1st and 2nd round pick for him?

If Detroit had already shored up their defense and if we knew for sure that Zetterberg would be back for the playoffs (and that he would be back after the cap became irrelevant towards the end of the year) then I would absolutely at least consider giving up a first and one of the prospects who is out of waiver options going into next year.

As it stands though, Detroit is not a Thomas Vanek away from winning the Cup, so no.

Posted by Garth on 02/24/14 at 12:41 PM ET

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If we were talking about a super-elite level defenseman instead of a winger, we might have a gamble worth taking. Detroit has too many serviceable forwards and bump the cap and roster limits with NHL ready talent. Holland isn’t going to gamble any of those working pieces for a rental. I’m not sure that he should, either. If Snow would take Franzen plus a second rounder, it’d be worth it. That’s never going to happen though.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 02/24/14 at 01:33 PM ET


If Snow would take Franzen plus a second rounder, it’d be worth it.

If Holland even entertained that he should be fired on the spot.

Posted by Garth on 02/24/14 at 02:50 PM ET

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I’m not sure how else they might be able to get rid of the old mule. Paying about $150k per goal is fine when you’re not up against the cap. He’s never going to have another season like he did in 08.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 02/24/14 at 03:03 PM ET

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The problem with that logic is that the team isn’t deadset on getting ride if Franzén.  That’s just (some of) the fans.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 02/24/14 at 05:22 PM ET

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I have a sneaking suspicion that Ken Holland is a hoarder. He doesn’t throw away anything.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 02/24/14 at 09:54 PM ET


I’m not sure how else they might be able to get rid of the old mule.

They’re not because they don’t want to.

Hit cap hit for his production is still pretty good, and as the cap goes up it gets even better.

Posted by Garth on 02/25/14 at 01:06 PM ET

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