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Should Teams Be Compensated If Front Office Personnel Move To Another Team?

from Pierre LeBrun of ESPN,

Starting with the 2006-07 season, there was no longer any compensation if you allowed someone to accept a promotion elsewhere, so be it, you got nothing in return.

But there is once again a push to re-visit that.

For years, Brian Burke (now president of hockey operations in Calgary) has pushed the league on this, and other GMs such as Ray Shero, Ken Holland and David Poile have voiced their support on the issue.

Is it fair for the Penguins to lose Chuck Fletcher and Mike Yeo to Minnesota and get nothing in return? Same goes for the Red Wings who put GMs in Tampa (Steve Yzerman) and Dallas (Jim Nill) and a head coach in San Jose (Todd McLellan) but got nothing back?

As one Eastern Conference team executive told ESPN.com Friday, if you’re spending years developing front office or coaching personnel, you should be compensated for their loss, just like you would when trading a player that you’ve developed.

For example, if the Buffalo Sabres soon snatch an assistant GM from another team and make him their new GM, shouldn’t that team get a draft pick or something in return?

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SYF's avatar

Is it fair for the Penguins to lose Chuck Fletcher and Mike Yeo to Minnesota and get nothing in return? Same goes for the Red Wings who put GMs in Tampa (Steve Yzerman) and Dallas (Jim Nill) and a head coach in San Jose (Todd McLellan) but got nothing back?

Paul MacLean in OTT, too, ya know?

Jeebus, how far is this gonna go?  Are we going to include Directors of Pro/Amateur Scouting as well?

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 11/22/13 at 02:24 PM ET

TreKronor's avatar

If I recall, Nill’s last contract had an out-clause, but the contract was still good until 2015 (again, this is just what I’m remembering).  I get the whole out-clause thing, but at that point the contract seems a little bit more like a formality than anything. 

I could see some benefit to having teams receive compensation, but then next thing you know the Front Office is a part of the salary cap…...

Posted by TreKronor on 11/22/13 at 03:04 PM ET

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Didn’t Tampa Bay give up draft picks for Gruden to Oakland?  I do not see any problems with getting something for any person who is under contract to a team… player or otherwise.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 11/22/13 at 03:12 PM ET

Luongo-is-my-hero's avatar

lol, i remember when la gave us a 2nd rd pick to hire marc crawford. LOL

Posted by Luongo-is-my-hero on 11/22/13 at 06:04 PM ET

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and then crawford convinced them to give a 2nd and 3rd for cloutier! LOL

Posted by Luongo-is-my-hero on 11/22/13 at 06:05 PM ET

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No

Posted by timbits on 11/22/13 at 08:18 PM ET

shanetx's avatar

LA clippers gave up a draft pick to bring Doc in from Boston this offseason.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 11/22/13 at 09:14 PM ET

Primis's avatar

LA clippers gave up a draft pick to bring Doc in from Boston this offseason.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 11/22/13 at 09:14 PM ET

That’s a bad example though because they literally tried to include Doc Rivers IN A TRADE OF PLAYERS before the league stepped in and told them “Uhh no, you’re not doing that”.  So there’s a special kind of weirdness happening there.

I’m torn on this.  On one hand, you don’t want to start restricting movement/promotion TOO much.  On the other hand, they’re right.  If a team puts together a good front office, they should be compensated if they leave early for a position that is a promotion elsewhere.

It really does punish the better orgs.

Posted by Primis on 11/22/13 at 11:12 PM ET

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This brings up the debate of whether a staff member is an employee. I like the idea that clauses are used in contracts like posted above. They want to learn from the best. These people want to be promoted. They want to compete against the best. I can see why an owner or manager would want to keep their best personnel but I can easily see why the personnel would want to become and compete against the best. Competitive industries create hierarchy ladders that people want to climb.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 11/24/13 at 12:10 PM ET

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