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No Winners In The Patrick Kane Case

from Bucky Gleason of the Buffalo News,

My job calls for sharing my opinions. Often, it means taking a position. That’s why they pay me, but we’re not talking about the Bills’ starting quarterback or the Sabres needing a right-handed shooting defenseman. This isn’t about some athlete driving while intoxicated or getting into a barroom brawl. This is a rape allegation.

You want my position? My position is that people need to stop taking positions. They should allow everyone involved to perform their duties with the idea – the mere hope – that facts eventually will emerge and the legal system will work. Nothing good can come from conclusions drawn from speculation and fueled by emotion.

Public assumptions and comments that have been made without people knowing the facts need to cease. It includes SkyBar owner and real-estate developer Mark Croce, whose remarks about not having “skin in the game” and a woman flirting with Kane were way out of line.

So let’s take a deep breath and a step back while the case unfolds.

Two lives have been turned upside down before our eyes. Both could be ruined by the time the case is closed, if they’re not already.

This is no time to rush to judgment, whether you’re a sex-crimes expert or proud owner of a No. 88 jersey. It’s difficult to comprehend Kane would commit such a crime. It’s difficult to comprehend a woman would concoct such an allegation. Perhaps everyone can agree that there will be no winners.


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Paul's avatar

Buffalo News,

The young woman who alleges that she was raped by Patrick Kane the morning of Aug. 2 only went to his Hamburg waterfront home because her friend wanted to go, according to three people who have knowledge of the events that night and early morning.

“They were at SkyBar, and Kane invited them to his home. Her friend really wanted to go to Kane’s house, and she didn’t want her friend to go there alone,” a friend of the woman told The Buffalo News. “It wasn’t her idea to go there.”

Two other sources who are familiar with the Kane rape allegation – a law enforcement official and a member of Buffalo’s legal community – gave similar information to The News about what led the alleged victim to go to Kane’s residence.

The woman who allegedly was raped at Kane’s home was not the woman who wanted to go there, the law enforcement official said.


Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 08/13/15 at 08:35 AM ET


This is by far the best article I’ve seen about this whole thing. People spouting opinions about an incident they know nothing about doesn’t help anyone

Posted by Stza on 08/13/15 at 08:48 AM ET

TreKronor's avatar

You want my position? My position is that people need to stop taking positions.

Agreed, that’s good.

It’s difficult to comprehend Kane would commit such a crime.

Well, that’s kind of a contradiction from previous quote.

Posted by TreKronor on 08/13/15 at 09:45 AM ET


Well, that’s kind of a contradiction from previous quote.

How?  That’s not taking a position.

Posted by Garth on 08/13/15 at 10:18 AM ET

DocF's avatar

Agree with Stza.  Gleason has given reasonable summary and his position is correct at this point in the investigation. 

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 08/13/15 at 10:18 AM ET

TreKronor's avatar



Anyways, this article seems pretty good regarding this topic compared to most of the stuff I’ve seen on KK about this matter over the last week or so.  When I’ve branched outside KK on these stories (I feel like I cheated on KK in doing so), I couldn’t believe the crap being thrown out there by the media and fans.

Heck, a guy I work with (avid Hawks fan) gave me some unreal excuses and reasoning for it all.  Things I wouldn’t type here.  And he was serious.

Part of me wonders if it’s fandom getting in the way, the other part wonders if people have a poor sense of judgement in terms of what is sexually acceptable.

Posted by TreKronor on 08/13/15 at 11:03 AM ET

Primis's avatar

I disagree with a lot of what Gleason says.

Part of the reason this public opinion matters is because there is a long, sordid history of things like this NOT ending in justice.  And a lot (a LOT) of people are fed up with it.  And as such, in the case of Kane where he has a history, he will merrily be crucified by some.  We live in a world of conflicts and paradoxes where OJ Simpson was found innocent of murder criminally, but guilty in civil court.

Kane “legally” deserves the benefit of the doubt.  As a U.S, citizen that is his right, as guaranteed by the Constitution.  He is innocent until proven guilty,

There is, never has been, nor will there ever be, a guarantee of public benefit of the doubt.  Nor should there ever be.  You as an individual are judged by your actions, and Kane’s previous actions present an image that, fair or not to him, he now has to deal with the consequences of.

And it takes a special kind of a***ole to sit up on their high horse and look down their nose at everyone else and tell them “How DARE you have and derive an opinion on a public individual who has made a multitude of public errors!!!” while at the same time claiming to be unbiased yet tossing in little snippets where he seems ready to defend Kane anyways.

Kane’s lifestyle is how we got here, and how he’s where he is now.  It was a series of choices he made, none of which he was forced to make.

End.  Of.  Story.

If the accusations prove false, or the matter ends up being hushed up and dropped, it does not matter to public opinion much because it does not undo what Kane has already previously presented as his lifestyle.

Posted by Primis on 08/13/15 at 11:34 AM ET



Yes.  He didn’t say Kane would never do that, he said it’s hard to comprehend that he would.  He doesn’t say it’s because Kane is a great guy, it doesn’t say that it’s because he’s rich and and should have women falling over themselves, he’s simply saying it’s difficult to comprehend.

And you conveniently left out Gleason’s very next sentence. “It’s difficult to comprehend a woman would concoct such an allegation.”  Is that taking a position to?

In fact, how can you possibly think that saying either one of those statements is taking a position when he said both of them?

There are people in the comments section of every article on this topic who are taking positions.  Patrick Kane is a monster because he absolutely did it.  The accuser is a money-grubbing slut-whore because she absolutely is lying about it.

Gleason is specifically acknowledging that it’s a difficult situation and is pointing out that taking a position is next to impossible with what is known about it.

Posted by Garth on 08/13/15 at 01:48 PM ET

TreKronor's avatar

Gleason, is that you???

And you conveniently left out Gleason’s very next sentence. “It’s difficult to comprehend a woman would concoct such an allegation.”  Is that taking a position to?

“Conveniently” may not be the best word.  I’d say…efficiently.  I just didn’t move the mouse far enough to copy that part of the sentence as well.

Posted by TreKronor on 08/13/15 at 01:54 PM ET

ilovehomers's avatar

I was about to point out the same as Garth. Tre looking like a true right wing christian cherry picking the bible. Kudos.

Posted by ilovehomers on 08/13/15 at 05:05 PM ET

TreKronor's avatar

You guys must be bored if it’s come to this level of criticism in the comments section.

Posted by TreKronor on 08/13/15 at 05:21 PM ET

d ca's avatar

Our judicial system may be blind. But the public is not. Neither are the Blackhawks nor the NHL.

Kane is a representative of a multi-million (if not billion) dollar organization. As a business owner is that whom you want representing your organization? As a fellow owner is that whom you want representing your league? As a fellow employee is that whom you want to be pigeonholed by? As a fan is that whom you want your kids to look up to?

...then the choice is obvious. It’s just the Hawks and Buttman lack the courage to do something about it until they have legal cover.

Posted by d ca on 08/14/15 at 03:30 PM ET

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