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A Landing Spot For Jimmy Howard

from Luke Fox of Sportsnet,

After finishing dead last in goals against, a major off-season priority of the Calgary Flames — along with finding a coach — is goaltending. Calgary has roughly $21.6 million in salary cap space next season, and Flames president Brian Burke liked Howard enough in 2014 to name him to the U.S. Olympic team.

Perhaps Howard, with his respectable .915 career save percentage, could be a stopgap until green prospects Joni Ortio, 25, and Jon Gillies, 22, develop into starters.

But the best fit looks like the Carolina Hurricanes, who appear willing to move on from veteran Cam Ward and try something new.

Not only is Carolina one of the few teams easily capable of handling Howard's contract — GM Ron Francis has an estimated $32 million to play with heading into 2016-17 — but it may need to take on some heftier contracts to reach the cap floor.

Consider that Howard's salary is actually more than $1 million cheaper than Ward's was in 2015-16, and Francis could actually pay less for a slight improvement at the position. Howard and Ward are the same age, but the Detroit goalie has 189 fewer games of wear and tear plus a 0.05 advantage in career save percentage.

more, Leafs mentioned too...

I am not so sure about Carolina. Most of us know the history between the two owners but perhaps it has softened a bit.

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d ca's avatar

Package Howard and Datsyuk’s contracts $5.3M + $7.5M with the added bonus for Carolina that as soon as Datsyuk no shows for training camp they can suspend him without pay so the actual salary paid is $5.5M for $12.8M worth of cap hits.

Ownership animosity aside: business is business. If Carolina can ice a team in actual salary that is below the cap floor it goes along way for making the finances of that team work. Even a few million are the difference in the case of that team making money vs losing money:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2015/11/06/carolina-hurricanes-owner-lost-1-2-million-operating-pnc-arena/#10e4886c5af3

http://www.forbes.com/teams/carolina-hurricanes/

...and in case you didn’t know it: Karmanos is going to need every dollar he can get as his sons are suing him:

http://www.canescountry.com/2016/6/1/11827670/peter-karmanos-carolina-hurricanes-lawsuit-nhl

Posted by d ca on 06/01/16 at 03:38 PM ET

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I don’t see Carolina taking on an expensive contract with Howard, since they already have Lack at $3 mil. 

The Ward/Lack tandem worked because they had Ward signed to a 6 year deal before they acquired Lack as the back-up who was supposed to take over the starting role going forward.  They didn’t seem to have a lot of faith in Lack though, only giving him two years.

Why does everyone keep writing about opponents taking on expensive players who don’t perform great?

Posted by TreKronor on 06/01/16 at 04:11 PM ET

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don’t see Carolina taking on an expensive contract with Howard, since they already have Lack at $3 mil.

The Ward/Lack tandem worked because they had Ward signed to a 6 year deal before they acquired Lack as the back-up who was supposed to take over the starting role going forward.  They didn’t seem to have a lot of faith in Lack though, only giving him two years.

Why does everyone keep writing about opponents taking on expensive players who don’t perform great?

Posted by TreKronor on 06/01/16 at 04:11 PM ET

This is something that feels like it should be true, yet time and time again, we can look around and find GMs getting junk moved. So clearly it is possible.

The reasons listed in the article are sensible. Ward really fell. I don’t know if it was health, wear and tear, or what. But as the article points out, it seems fair to assume that Howard can at least match Ward, and do it for a million bucks less AAV. And as you’ve said, Lack only has two years.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 06/01/16 at 04:40 PM ET

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I mean, if Dallas is crunched to sign some of their UFA’s next summer (which it seems they may be) they could very well be in a position to trade Niemi.  Boom - there’s Carolina’s answer. 

Who is better: Niemi or Howard?

Posted by TreKronor on 06/01/16 at 04:46 PM ET

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Posted by d ca on 06/01/16 at 03:38 PM ET
Posted by TreKronor on 06/01/16 at 04:11 PM ET

This sounds like a fit, the Wings can take Lack back if they have to, its a year and we need a stop gap backup at least, and that will cost us $1.5MM, so we’re eating some premium to exit out of two mega deals, so be it. 

You can expand this trade to include picks/prospects on their end, with some of our Depth in the AHL that will never make this team but could be players Carolina.

 

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerHolland2.0's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 06/01/16 at 04:58 PM ET

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Why does everyone keep writing about opponents taking on expensive players who don’t perform great?

Because it happens in the NHL all the time.

Personally, I keep going back to the Islanders.  It just makes a lot of sense to me for Howard.

Posted by Garth on 06/01/16 at 05:31 PM ET

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We won’t get crap for a return right now, and we’d be screwed with our own goaltending situation.

Gustqvsson… You out there?

Posted by TreKronor on 06/01/16 at 06:38 PM ET

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We won’t get crap for a return right now, and we’d be screwed with our own goaltending situation.

The Wings don’t need to get much for him, it’s good just to get rid of his contract.  Anything else is gravy.

Posted by Garth on 06/01/16 at 08:18 PM ET

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Everyone keeps talking about how easy it will be to move Dats’ contract because teams need to get to the floor.  No team has trouble getting to the floor really.  Sure, some team may be interested, but it’s going to take something from Detroit.  The previous instances all involved the team giving something up.  Boston had to send Reilly Smith to Florida with Savard.  Do you really think it was a Smith for Hayes trade?  In the Pronger deal, it was exchanging a bunch of unwanted parts essentially on both sides.  Nobody is taking Dats just to get to the floor, they are going to want something.  Now hopefully that is a small, not really high end prospect, but they will want something or we would have to take back something unwanted on their end.

As for Howard… I don’t know.  I look at who’s available in free agency, and who’s supposedly available via trade possibly or potentially, and it looks more and more to me like we’d have to be giving up something with Howard for someone to be interested in Howard… to think we’re shipping Dats and Howard to Carolina and they are the ones giving up prospects is laughable.  Now, if we were to make some sort of Howard + Nyquist trade to someone like Calgary for a Dman or something…. that might work.  But Howard alone isn’t going to get much in return, not the way he’s performed the last few seasons.  Not with the options available on the market.  Are you going to give something to Detroit for Howard or sign a free agent, who might even be slightly less a sure thing or known quantity but get him for nothing essentially.  James Reimer is out there, Ben BIshop may or may not be on the market.  Ana may trade one of their young goalies, Dallas has someone available at least on par with HOward…. there aren’t a ton of teams looking for keepers.  Even St.Louis… who kows, could deal Elliot.

Posted by DieByTheWing on 06/01/16 at 08:32 PM ET

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I’m not as against HOlland as a lot of people around here, but the one criticism I will agree with or that I have, is that he usually waits until his hand is forced rather than be proactive.  Sometimes, it’s not a big deal, I don’t lose as much sleep about losing guys to waivers when they are at replacement level as a player… but that being said, Im perfectly ok with not resigning guys like Miller and keeping nestasil because really, the drop off isn’t going to be that much and in todays NHL you need to have some cheap guys on your roster. 

Fixing this team in free agency isn’t going to work, it’s just going to make things worse even if it’s better in the short term…. unless HOlland can wave a magic wand and ditch some salary somehow.

Posted by DieByTheWing on 06/01/16 at 08:35 PM ET

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An interesting story I read the other day , was commenting how Columbus is up against the cap with a lot of contracts and money dedicated next year and Seth Jones is an RFA.  The kicker, is that a lot of their big money guys are guys with No Move or NO trades… so they cant’ shed salary easily (not impossible, but not easy).  THe article was from an Edmonton perspective, and about signing him to an offer sheet.  I really hope that when Holland is talking about being agressive… that these are things they will look at.  THe offer sheet really really needs to be considered more, protocol be damned, because as teams put themselves in cap hell, it’s a very strategic tool.  More than likely they’d match and do something… but it would be worth a shot.  Boston traded Hamilton, at least in some respect, because of fear of offer sheet, or at least that was one of the rumors.

Posted by DieByTheWing on 06/01/16 at 08:47 PM ET

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You can expand this trade to include picks/prospects on their end, with some of our Depth in the AHL that will never make this team but could be players Carolina.


It could be done, but as others have mentioned Calgary could be a trading partner for Howard. Just hoping the Red Wings don’t have to eat part of Howard’s contract trading him. confused

Posted by bigfrog on 06/01/16 at 08:47 PM ET

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I still don’t understand how Dats, who is under contract, can just go and play for the KHL if he wants. Eff that. If he walks, his contract should just come off the books.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 06/01/16 at 09:02 PM ET

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I still don’t understand how Dats, who is under contract, can just go and play for the KHL if he wants. Eff that. If he walks, his contract should just come off the books.
Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 06/01/16 at 09:02 PM ET

Why is it that difficult to understand that Dats can leave the NHL at any time? There is no legal organization that prevents a Russian business from hiring an employee away from a Canadian business.

Why is it that difficult to understand that the CBA has a rule that anyone over 35 when they sign the contract extension means the team is stuck with the cap hits regardless of whether or not the player fulfills the contract.

Seth Jones is a RFA next season. He currently makes 925k, which means he will automatically gets at least $971.25k on his qualifying offer (automatic 5% raise per CBA). However, Columbus can qualify him at whatever price they want. They will qualify him at least at 1.683M (and more likely at 3.365M) because of the draft pick compensation chart for RFA’s which will prevent some teams from even daring to throw offer sheets his way.

$1,110,249 and below No compensation
$1,110,250 to $1,682,194 Third-round pick
$1,682,195 to $3,364,391 Second-round pick
$3,364,392 to $5,046,585 First- and third-round pick
$5,046,586 to $6,728,781 First-, second-, and third-round pick
$6,728,782 to $8,410,976 Two first-round picks and a second- and third-round pick
$8,410,977 and above Four first-round picks

That said offer sheets don’t really work because teams can exceed the salary cap by 10% in the off-season so give or take around 7M. Columbus would simply match the offer sheet for Jones then make the roster moves necessarily.

 

Posted by d ca on 06/02/16 at 12:58 AM ET

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An interesting story I read the other day , was commenting how Columbus is up against the cap with a lot of contracts and money dedicated next year and Seth Jones is an RFA.

Holland would still need to get rid of some big contracts (Ericsson would be a good start) to make room for Jones. Not to mention we’ll have to re-sign DD and Marchenko soon.

Posted by believe98 on 06/02/16 at 08:35 AM ET

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Why are we getting rid of Howard?

Posted by CrimsonPhoenix on 06/02/16 at 07:43 PM ET

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Why are we getting rid of Howard?

Posted by CrimsonPhoenix on 06/02/16 at 07:43 PM ET

His cap hit and this guy named Petr Mrazek

I still don’t understand how Dats, who is under contract, can just go and play for the KHL if he wants. Eff that. If he walks, his contract should just come off the books.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 06/01/16 at 09:02 PM ET

There is a clause in the CBA meant to prevent clubs from giving ridiculous contracts to aging vets with the knowledge they would never fulfill the length of the contract. It’s a good idea in theory, but frankly I think there needs to be exceptions for players that leave the NHL to play in another league like Datsyuk will. It’s one thing if the guy retires, but in all other professions everywhere in the world, Datsyuk playing in Russia would be a breach of contract that should make it null and void in terms of cap space and salary payment.

An interesting story I read the other day , was commenting how Columbus is up against the cap with a lot of contracts and money dedicated next year and Seth Jones is an RFA.

Posted by DieByTheWing on 06/01/16 at 08:47 PM ET

I didn’t know this before, but I’m aroused.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 06/03/16 at 11:53 AM ET

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