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from Kevin Paul Dupont of the Boston Globe,
... What a profoundly disappointing, anticlimactic finish it would be here if the NHL is forced to call it quits on the season and scrub the playoffs, and Chara either opts to retire or the Bruins figure it’s time to face life in the post-Z era.
If the NHL has packed up for good this season, and there’s no new deal to extend him, or he opts to call it quits, then Chara’s final skate will have been Tuesday’s 2-0 win in Philadelphia. The 6-9 Trencin Tower of Power logged 23:49 in ice time, second only to partner Charlie McAvoy’s 25:59, and picked up the secondary assist on the final goal of the night by Patrice Bergeron.
Chara’s career line to date: 1,553 games (1,023 with Boston), 205-451—656. Not to mention 182 playoffs games (137 with Boston), including the waltz with the Cup here in 2011....
If it’s over for Joe Thornton, his career line reads: 1,636 games, 420-1,089—1,509. He has scored the most goals of any player every drafted as a Bruin (No. 1, 1997), and he is second only to Bourque for assists (1,169) and points (1,579). Jumbo will be 41 on July 2. He said he hoped the Sharks would have dealt him to a contender at the deadline, but GM Doug Wilson couldn’t find a landing spot for him.
more on Chara plus many more hockey topics...
Mrazek and Thornton get 2 for slashing plus Thornton receives 2 for roughing.
added 12/6/19 at 12:02pm, Pretty funny tweet below.
SAN JOSE, CA - San Jose Sharks (@SanJoseSharks) General Manager Doug Wilson announced today that the club has agreed to terms with Center Joe Thornton to a one-year contract.
"Words cannot equate the impact that Joe has had on this franchise since his arrival in San Jose in 2005," said Wilson. "Joe is a generational player who seemingly blazes past an existing Hall-of-Famer with each game he plays. His leadership and dedication to the organization and his teammates is inspiring. He has the rare ability to make the players around him better and we're excited to see him healthy and back wearing the Sharks crest."
Last season, Thornton registered 51 points (16 goals, 35 assists) in 73 games with San Jose, finishing seventh on the Sharks in assists, eighth in points and tied for fourth in game-winning goals.
Reports say $2M.
Joe Thornton announced his intentions to return for a 22nd NHL season in June and according to Kevin Kurz of The Athletic, it is only a matter of time before the veteran re-signs with the San Jose Sharks.
Kurz writes that "Thornton is not going anywhere and will re-sign with the Sharks at some point in the near future," though he may wait until Sharks general manager Doug Wilson is done shaping his roster for this season.
Thornton, who posted 16 goals and 35 assists in 73 games, said in June he believes he could play up to five more seasons. The 40-year-old was pictured in full gear at the Sharks training facility on Monday along with former teammate Patrick Marleau.
Marleau, who was bought out by the Carolina Hurricanes in June, has also been linked to the Sharks this off-season, but Kurz reports there's "much more uncertainty" around his future. The 39-year-old desired a move from the Toronto Maple Leafs after last season in order to be closer to his family in San Jose, but Steve Simmons of the Toronto Sun wrote last week that the Sharks "don't want" the veteran.
Illegal check to the head.
from Curtis Pashelka of the Mercury News,
“I honestly thought I barely touched him,” Thornton said. “He just came right back; it was just one of those plays that it is what it is. I think my son hits me like that six times a day, it’s just a weird position to put himself in. That’s all.”
more on the hit...
from Paul Gackle of the Mercury News,
Whenever Joe Thornton is asked about the latest-hockey legend that he’s passed in the NHL record books, he blushes and expresses humility.
It’s a scene that played out when he eclipsed Mario Lemieux in November, Gordie Howe in February and Stan Mikita in March. While every name on the ladder provides its own dose of modesty, Thornton couldn’t deny that moving into a tie with Steve Yzerman for eighth place on the NHL’s all-time assists list (1,063) on Tuesday was uniquely special.
“He’s the reason why I wear No. 19,” Thornton said. “He’s one of those guys where you grow up idolizing him, and when you meet him, he meets all expectations and plus. It was a good feeling.”
Thornton’s admiration for Yzerman can be traced back to his older brother and agent, John Thornton, who grew up cheering for the Detroit Red Wings. Like most younger siblings, Thornton played the role of copycat with his brother, who’s three years older, so John’s favorite hockey team became his preference, as well. Detroit is roughly 115 miles south of St. Thomas, Ontario, the Thorntons’ hometown, so pulling for Yzerman and the Red Wings came naturally.
NEW YORK (March 31, 2019) – San Jose Sharks forward Joe Thornton has been fined $2,500 for high-sticking Vegas Golden Knights forward Ryan Reaves during NHL Game No. 1211 in San Jose on Saturday, March 30, the National Hockey League’s Department of Player Safety announced today.
The incident occurred at 15:20 of the first period. Thornton was assessed a minor penalty for high-sticking.
NEW YORK (March 31, 2019) – Vegas Golden Knights forward Ryan Reaves has been fined $2,500 for high-sticking San Jose Sharks forward Joe Thornton during NHL Game No. 1211 in San Jose on Saturday, March 30, the National Hockey League’s Department of Player Safety announced today.
The incident occurred at 16:10 of the third period.
Watch both of the incidents below.
from Curtis Pashelka of the Mercury News,
Thornton, 39, will become the 19th player in NHL history to play in 1,500 games Thursday when the Sharks visit the Dallas Stars to start a quick two-game road trip. In 20-plus seasons, he’s played 967 games with the Sharks, second-most in franchise history behind Patrick Marleau (1,493)....
Reaching 1,500 games “is really hard to do, and it’s even harder to do in the era that Joe’s in right now,” said Hall of Fame defenseman Scott Stevens, who played 1,635 games from 1982-2004 and is now an analyst for NHL Network.
“The way the game has changed, hats off to Joe to figure out how to stay effective and be as good as he has been in a different era.”
Of the 18 players who have reached this plateau, 14 are in the Hockey Hall of Fame, with others like Jaromir Jagr, Marleau and Jarome Iginla likely to follow once they become eligible.
Thornton, with 1,430 career points, 16th all-time, will be there too, one day.
“I think if you ask anybody around here, we need a Cup around here, that’s the bottom line. It was a good run (in 2016), but we didn’t win. This year, if we do things right, we have a chance.”
-Joe Thornton of the San Jose Sharks. Michael Traikos at the Toronto Sun has more.
SAN JOSE, CA - San Jose Sharks (@SanJoseSharks) General Manager Doug Wilsonannounced today that the club has re-signed Center Joe Thornton to a one-year contract. Per club policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.
"Joe has become one of the faces of this franchise since his arrival in 2005 and we feel it's only fitting that he will be wearing teal going forward," said Wilson. "He is a generational playmaker and his accomplishments place him amongst the elite players to ever play the game. He has helped lead this team to new levels and continues to be one of the top two-way centers in the League. Nobody loves the game of hockey more than Joe Thornton and his leadership on and off the ice have been instrumental in this franchise's success. We're excited that he has continued his commitment to this organization and the fans in San Jose."
“I was in full-fledged panic because I started getting all these requests with people following me."I phoned (a Sharks public relations director) and said, you’ve got to get me off this thing.
“It got crazy.”
-Joe Thornton of the San Jose Sharks regarding social media. Paul Gackle of the Mercury News has more on this topic.
And Kadri drops the evidence.
No penalty on the play.
Oshie in a defenseless position. I don't like these kind of hits.
Oshie went to the room on his own after being down on the ice for about a minute.
added 8:54pm, extended video is below...
added 9:21pm, below, Wilson and Thornton fight...
from Nicholas J. Cotsonika of NHL.com,
Joe Thornton spent days trading text messages and phone calls with Patrick Marleau. The two veteran forwards were unrestricted free agents for the first time in their NHL careers, wooed by teams around the League.
Thornton decided to return to the San Jose Sharks. He wanted Marleau to return too, so badly apparently he was willing to take less money to make it happen. General manager Doug Wilson said Thornton agreed to a one-year contract on Friday with different versions of compensation depending on the circumstances.
But Marleau signed a three-year, $18.75 million contract with the Toronto Maple Leafs on Sunday. Then the Sharks announced Thornton was coming back on a one-year contract. Thornton's agency, Top Shelf Sports Management, tweeted the total value was $8 million. TSN reported a signing bonus of $1.25 million and salary of $6.75 million....
Thornton has spent the past 11-plus seasons with the Sharks, since they acquired him from the Boston Bruins on Nov. 30, 2005, on his way to the Hart Trophy as the NHL's most valuable player. He ranks second to Marleau in games played (914) and points (937) in San Jose history, and he's first in assists (722). He still drives play and passes the puck like a wizard even though he turned 38 on Sunday. He's a center, Marleau a wing.
Yes, Thornton dropped from 82 points (19 goals, 63 assists) in 2015-16 to 50 points (seven goals, 43 assists) last season. Yes, he sustained a bad knee injury late in the season. But he came off a short summer after the 2016 Stanley Cup Final, played for Team Canada in the World Cup of Hockey 2016 and ground through a condensed schedule, and the knee is fine. Thornton said he expects to start skating in a couple of weeks and will be 100 percent.
"I haven't trained my legs like this ever in my career, so my legs are going to be stronger than ever, to be honest with you," Thornton said.
SAN JOSE, CA - San Jose Sharks (@SanJoseSharks) General Manager Doug Wilson announced today that the club has re-signed center Joe Thornton to a one-year contract. Per club policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.
"Joe has become one of the faces of this franchise since his arrival in 2005 and we feel it's only fitting that he will be wearing teal going forward," said Wilson. "He is a generational playmaker and his accomplishments place him amongst the elite players to ever play the game. He has helped lead this team to new levels and continues to be one of the top two-way centers in the League. His leadership on and off the ice have been instrumental in this franchise's success, and we're excited that he has continued his commitment to this organization and the fans in San Jose."
from Mark Purdy of the Mercury News,
Thornton is 37 years old. He will become an unrestricted free agent on July 1. But after putting his knee on the line for his team, he underwent surgery Monday afternoon to repair the damage.
Which means: Any team that was thinking about signing Thornton to a free agent deal would surely want to see how his knee recovers from the surgery–but with a six-month recovery and rehab period ahead of him, no one will know for certain about his status until October, which is when the NHL season starts.
Which almost surely means: Thornton is likely to receive no free agent offers this summer–or at least no multi-year offers, which he’s said to prefer.
Which furthermore means: Thornton’s unfortunate injury could benefit the Sharks. They have exclusive rights to Thornton regarding a contract extension until July 1. It’s a safe assumption that the team wants him back. But if general manager Doug Wilson wishes, he could use the situation as leverage for terms that are more favorable to the team. That could include less money or a shorter contract term.
Which calculatedly means: Thornton is not in the best negotiating position, despite being one of the NHL’s all-time top 25 point scorers.
via the Mercury News,
The knee injury that Sharks star Joe Thornton suffered was a significant one — he tore both his ACL and MCL before the NHL playoffs began, the team announced Monday.
Thornton, 37, played the last four games of the Sharks’ first-round playoff series against Edmonton after missing the first two.
“It’s as courageous an effort — him doing what he did — as I’ve ever seen,” said Sharks coach Peter DeBoer.
Thornton was scheduled to have knee surgery later Monday afternoon.
The Sharks also disclosed that Patrick Marleau played the series with a broken thumb and Tomas Hertl played with a broken foot.
added 3:24pm, if you need a refresher on the injury, watch below...
Joe Thornton: "Maybe I'll play tomorrow, maybe Saturday... No doubt about Game 1 of the playoffs.
Couture: "I'm going to take part in pregame skate tomorrow and go from there. It's literally day-to-day."
from Kevin Kurz of CSN BayArea,
Couture spoke about his ordeal immediately following his injury, when a deflected puck knocked several teeth from his mouth in Nashville on March 25.
“Right when it happened I went to the Nashville room and their doctors and dentists did a great job trying to basically save my teeth,” he said. “They had to move a lot of them around obviously from the impact of the puck. They were all shifted in my mouth. They did a great job at that time to try and save them.
“I went to Vanderbilt hospital, and they brought a guy in there to put what is called an arch-bar on my teeth to try and save them. …It wasn’t really a surgery, it was just kind of a procedure that they did.”...
“They’re all damaged,” he said. “A lot of these teeth are going to be taken out at some point once the season is over. They’ll have to remove a lot of them from my mouth.”
“It’s basically temporary to have some teeth in my mouth. That’s pretty much it. If they took them all out now then I would be almost toothless.”
Couture’s timeframe to return wasn’t anymore specific than the one offered by DeBoer, as he hasn't skated yet. The good news is he said he hasn’t lost any weight, and he is again able to eat some solid foods, although he has to chew his back teeth only.
“Gonna try to [come back this season]. That’s the goal, is to play hockey,” he said. “We’re taking at this point just today was a good day for me. Did some exercise. Feel good. We’ll go on to tomorrow, and when we get there we’ll see what I can do.”
Thornton, who had an MRI on his knee on Monday, is scheduled to speak with the media on Wednesday. Reached via text message, Thornton simply said: "Hope to be back soon."
more on the Sharks and if you need a refresher on the Couture and Thornton injuries, watch below...
That certainly doesn't look good.
added 820pm, Vancouver broadcast view is below...
Still feeling a bit ill but improving so I will try to keep up with today's NHL news.
First off, catch up with yesterday's NHL action.
added 10:03am, Below, a video on Thornton thru the years...
Five for spearing and a game misconduct.
Scott Morrison of Sportsnet with the feature...
from Michael Farber of Sports Illustrated,
At about 9:30 on the night of Sept. 15, 1885, in the small southwestern Ontario city of St. Thomas, Jumbo the Elephant was being led through the rail yards to his boxcar after a performance with the Barnum, Bailey & Hutchinson Circus when an unscheduled westbound freight train hurtled down the tracks and slammed Jumbo from behind, dragging him 100 yards. One hundred men were needed to free the body of the nearly 12-foot tall, 6-1/2-ton African elephant. Ashes to ashes. Tusk to dust. The tragic demise of the world’s first four-legged superstar is marked by a plaque that abuts the tracks, some 200 yards northeast of the old Northside Arena, where Joe Thornton, the NHL’s Jumbo, played youth hockey.
St. Thomas is where Thornton grew up. And up. The Sharks center stands 6' 4" and 220 pounds, his imposing stature accentuated this spring by a luxurious expanse of beard that looks as if it were modeled on a daguerreotype of a Civil War general. (The Confederacy’s John Bell Hood, to be precise. You can look it up.) Thornton is not the biggest player, physically or metaphorically, in the Stanley Cup Final; Penguins star Sidney Crosby has a chance to win the Cup for a second time. Still Thornton wears the nickname honestly even though Glen Murray, Thornton’s old right wing in Boston, who with Bruins teammate Travis Green popularized Jumbo Joe, says he had no idea of the link between Thornton’s hometown and the world-renowned pachyderm. Unlike the fate of the original Jumbo, who would be re-imagined into big-eared Dumbo to the delight of 20th Century America’s youth, “Jumbo Joe” was a happy accident.
“You know how in sports you’re always looking for the right fit?” asks Murray, now a Kings player development coach. “How a guy fits on a team, on a line, in a dressing room? Well, here’s a nickname that just fit. His name was Joe. And he was really big.”
Joe Thornton is a guy that just likes to keep things loose and have fun. But he’s all about business when it comes to giving his team their best chance to raise hockey’s greatest prize.
from Craig Custance of ESPN,
The folks in Joe Thornton's inner circle are torn. They want outsiders to know the kind of guy Thornton truly is, to learn that the San Jose Sharks center has as big a heart as any superstar in hockey. But they realize he's more than content to keep that part of his personality private.
"He helps people, but it's just to help people, not for other people to find out about it," said his brother, John. "That's the thing."
There might not be a more generous superstar in hockey -- with his time, his money, his willingness to include those around him. But you'll never hear Thornton talk about it.
"That's what makes him so special," said former Sharks defenseman Douglas Murray, a close friend. "Some guys, you tell the story and they make a big deal out of it. The big story with Joe is that's not why he does it. He just does things because he's a genuinely nice, kind-hearted person."
Still, his friends and family are eager to correct the public perception of Thornton, which is often skewed.
from Kevin Allen of USA TODAY,
Even when DeBoer wasn’t with the Sharks, he viewed Thornton as the solution. He never tied San Jose’s postseason inadequacies, which included losing in the first round to the Los Angeles Kings in 2014 after a 3-0 series lead, directly to Thornton.
“It’s a misconception,” DeBoer said. “When you hear that, and when you are around Joe Thornton, you realize how ridiculous it is. This guy is exactly what you want in your dressing room and on the ice if you are trying to win a championship.”
Thornton’s regular-season scoring rate is .98 points per game and his playoff scoring rate is .75 points per game. But most of the game's stars, including Alex Ovechkin and Sidney Crosby, see their production decrease in the postseason when checking is more relentless.
From 2006-12, a period when the Sharks were suffering from annual postseason disappointment, Thornton registered 69 points in 79 playoff games. He had a goal and two assists, and looked strong, in the five-game first-round triumph against the Kings. San Jose begins its series with the Nashville Predators on Friday night (10:30 p.m. ET, NBCSN).
“The fact that he hasn’t won (a championship) has nothing to do with him or the effort he puts in,” DeBoer said. “I don’t think he could be a better leader or example or have more passion for winning. He’s just one of those guys whose stars haven’t aligned yet.”
from Eric Duhatschek of the Globe and Mail,
We were talking about longevity and career plans and how, in an era when youth is being served all around the NHL, there are still a few holdouts here and there – a Jaromir Jagr, a Shane Doan and yes even a Joe Thornton – who defy the years and the era they play in and still find a way to succeed.
The one common factor is their great love of the game. You ask Thornton why, at the age of 36, he is still thriving in the NHL and the answer comes easily: there isn’t another thing he’d rather be doing. After all these years, the life of a professional athlete – competing against his peers on the ice, enjoying the camaraderie of the dressing room off the ice – still holds a certain little-boy appeal.
Thornton and Jagr share the same genuine joie de vivre when it comes to playing the game, which is what inspires them to keep doing it long after many of their peers have stepped aside.
“I don’t think you play the game at that level at their ages unless you genuinely love the game,” said Sharks’ coach Peter DeBoer, who also coached Jagr for most of two years with the New Jersey Devils. “Joe loves everything about the game. He’s the first guy at the rink on game days. He’s preparing 3 1/2 hours before the game starts. Every time we have an optional practice, he’s on the ice, working on some part of his game.
Scott Morrison of Sportsnet with a feature on the Boston Bruins trading Joe Thornton to the San Jose Sharks.
Anyone care to read between the lines?
from Pierre LeBrun of ESPN,
Joe Thornton is going to be an interesting test case for the Hockey Hall of Fame even though he clearly should be a no-brainer. But no question there are those who will hold his lack of a Stanley Cup against him. Of course, he still has time to win one before his career is out. But even if he doesn’t, it would be ridiculous to make that argument against him. His career screams Hall of Famer.
The Case For
Thornton, a consistent top-end point producer his entire career, currently sits 36th all-time in regular-season points with 1,259 (358 goals-901 assists), ahead of Hall of Famers Michel Goulet, Bernie Federko, Joe Nieuwendyk, Mike Bossy and Glenn Anderson, among others.
And he’s still got a few more seasons left in his career. For example, say the 36-year-old center plays three more seasons and I’m very conservative here in projecting 60 points a year. That puts him on pace for 1,439 career points, which would rank him 16th all-time, sandwiched between Teemu Selanne and Bryan Trottier.
As it stands, his 901 career assists are 19th all-time already, one assist away from passing Bryan Trottier.
from David Pollak of the Mercury News,
A little more than a month after Joe Thornton told his general manager to "shut his mouth," the veteran center took two jabs at his coach during Wednesday's locker clean-out session.
No changes were made in the Sharks hierarchy, but Todd McLellan's future remains in doubt. McLellan has said he wanted to discuss his situation with his family before deciding if it made sense to come back for the final year of his contract.
"I have no idea," Thornton said when asked if a coaching change was needed. "Todd has to talk to his family. Maybe he should talk to this family as well in here. We'll see what happens."...
When Thornton was asked, he said failure to make the playoffs shows there is room for improvement as far as team culture. Where would that improvement need to come from?
"Everywhere," he said. "It comes from the coaches, and they bring it down to us. It comes from everywhere."
"Joe's not going anywhere. Joe is a San Jose Shark."
"He and I have not only a contractual agreement, but a handshake agreement. As I say, our relationship is extremely strong. I know Joe. I appreciate him. I've known him since the world juniors. I care about him a lot. He knows how I feel about him. I was actually complimenting him and supporting him when I was talking to our season-ticket holders."
San Jose Sharks GM Doug Wilson. Read more on this topic from Katie Strang of ESPN.
from David Pollak of the San Jose Mercury News,
Long-simmering issues between Sharks general manager Doug Wilson and veteran center Joe Thornton boiled to the surface Friday when Thornton had a direct response to Wilson's latest explanation of why the 'C' was removed from his jersey.
"I think Doug just needs to shut his mouth," Thornton said after his team's morning practice. "I think that's the bottom line."
Thornton added: "All I've got to say is I've been here every day working hard. I haven't taken a sabbatical. He just needs to stop lying, shut his mouth."
In a Thursday night meeting with about 350 season-ticket holders, Wilson was asked again about the decision to strip Thornton of the captaincy. The Sharks have gone with four alternate captains this season and Thornton has that leadership role instead.
from Dan Robson of Sportsnet,
The part that’s hard to let go of, though—the thing that hurts much more than the loss of a letter—is his team’s chronic disappointment in the playoffs. The constant feeling that the team is good enough to get there but just can’t find its way. “It doesn’t matter if it’s five years ago or this year,” Thornton says and sighs. “They all sting the same.” Those who have seen how the losses wear on Thornton aren’t fooled by the smiling front he tends to put on. Chris Bailey, a police officer in London, Ont., played novice hockey with Thornton in St. Thomas and the pair have been close friends since. He’s never seen Thornton go easy on the idea of winning. “Everything he does is game seven to him,” says Bailey. “Whether we’re playing golf, cards or rock, paper, scissors—he wants to win. That’s the only time he shows his emotion.”
As the trade deadline nears, Thornton’s name is bound to hit the headlines again. There are several teams that would happily add him to their roster in exchange for some fresh talent to bolster a Sharks core built around young stars Joe Pavelski and Logan Couture. The speculation that Thornton would agree to waive his no-trade clause is just too juicy to ignore. But he insists it won’t happen: “I don’t know how many years I can play, but I want to retire as a Shark,” he says. Thornton still believes that this team—his team—is his best chance at breaking a playoff curse that’s followed him through nearly two decades and finally getting to raise the Cup. But anything less, and it’s one more season of scapegoating Joe.
from David Pollak of the Mercury News,
An injured Joe Thornton will miss his first game in more than four years when the Sharks face the St. Louis Blues on Saturday night.
Thornton did not take part in the morning skate and coach Todd McLellan confirmed the 35-year-old center will be sidelined because of the hit to his shoulder that knocked him out of Wednesday night's 3-0 win over the Anaheim Ducks.
"When you lose a player of his stature and caliber and skill level, everybody has to pick it up a little bit," McLellan said. "And if that happens, we give ourselves a chance. If it doesn't, then we'll be chasing it from behind."
The coach said Thornton is "day to day."
Below, watch the hit on Thornton...
from Mike Zeisberger of the Toronto Sun,
Should Wilson end up making such a request in the coming days, weeks, even months, Thornton leaves you with the impression that it wouldn’t matter anyway. After he and fellow longtime Shark Patrick Marleau inked extensions back in January, he claims it is his desire to remain in a San Jose jersey for the remainder of his hockey life.
“That’s my plan,” he said. “I signed a three-year extension (worth $20.25 million US) last season in the intent to finish my career as a Shark.”
Even if other teams make a grand pitch to woo him?
“Yes, that’s still my intent (to stay),” he said....
After an internet item last week suggested the Leafs were again looking at the Sharks forward, colleague Terry Koshan immediately received a question from a fan during a Toronto Sun Live Chat about a possible trade scenario involving Thornton. It wasn’t the first time Jumbo Joe’s name has come up in such speculation - and it certainly won’t be the last.
“It’s flattering, sure, that other teams would want to trade assets to acquire me, for sure,” Thornton said. “It’s just like any employee who works for Ford and GM wants you. It’s flattering. That’s the way I look at it.”
You are probably familiar with the dynamics of the Joe Thornton situation (seems like the theory is, "Take the 'C' away, see if he waives the no-trade," as ESPN's Craig Custance reported), you are probably familiar with the dynamics of the Ryan Kesler trade (he says he's going to where deserves to be, and in Vancouver, it's, "Everybody thought he was a dick"), so:
The Ottawa Sun's Bruce Garrioch pulled double-time in covering the Sens' picks, Jason Spezza's situation (what's so bad about a guy turning down a trade to a team that's on his no-trade list? Emo GM Bryan Murray will tell you) and positing a Sunday rumor column, and he addresses a situation we haven't necessarily talked about as of yet:
There has been a lot of controversy in Chicago over whether the Hawks have been trying to deal forward Patrick Sharp or not. While it was heavily denied by Sharp’s agent Rick Curran that his client was on the move, Sharp’s name has been popping up all over the place in trade talks. Several teams say he’s available, so it will be interesting to see if he’s still there when push comes to shove after this summer. The Hawks are already over the salary cap and will have to cut money somewhere.
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The free agent "wining and dining period" has been a bit of a pain in the rear to keep up with, but it's at least intriguing to witness player agents just cut out the middleman and tell actual reputable sources, "Oh yeah, we met with team X, team Y and team Z" instead of having to read someone's column about "league sources" (who are almost always agents or hopeful GM's).
But the Ottawa Sun's Bruce Garrioch has arrived in Philadelphia, and it wouldn't be the draft or five days till free agency if Garrioch didn't provide us with both an update on Jason Spezza's status...
It's believed as many as five teams -- including St. Louis, Anaheim, Phoenix, Nashville and Florida -- have made calls on the Ottawa captain. The club is mulling over what route to take.
With Spezza requesting a trade, the Senators would like to have a deal in place by Friday, but the club would like to get a No. 1 pick to replace the one Ottawa gave up in the deal for Bobby Ryan with Anaheim last summer.
Murray along with assistant GM's Pierre Dorion and Randy Lee were expected to sit down Wednesday to discuss the different scenarios because this is a deal that has a chance to be a game-changer.
Updated with LeBrun stuff at 6:57 PM:
TSN's Darren Dreger and Bob McKenzie discussed pre-draft trade and free agent discussions in an edition of Insider Trading that lasts for nearly four minutes. TSN usually posts a summation thereof, but if you don't want to wait until 7:30 or 8...
1. McKenzie says that there are 3 teams in the Western Conference (Anaheim, St. Louis +?) and 1 "mystery team" in the Eastern Conference who are talking to the Ottawa Senators about Jason Spezza (who has a no-trade list of 10 teams, incl. Florida, Carolina, Columbus and the Islanders). McKenzie says the Senators want a 1st-round draft pick as part of the compensation package.
2. Dreger says that David Bolland wants "maximum value," and he wants an 8-year deal at $4.9 million to remain with the Leafs. Toronto probably won't give him the term he wants, but Bolland believes he'll be healthy by training camp;
3. Dreger says that the Oilers are looking for a center and a defenseman, and they're willing to trade the 3rd overall pick and/or Sam Gagner in their efforts to improve the team, which may include trading for the Panthers' 1st overall pick;
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The veteran center truly believes that his best chance at winning a Stanley Cup is with the Sharks if a few changes are made, and it would mean more to do it there with long-time teammate Patrick Marleau, who he waited to make sure signed in San Jose before signing his own extension. Thornton hasn’t submitted a list of acceptable teams to GM Doug Wilson, and hasn’t been asked to do so either. That likely won’t change anytime soon. Because of that, it’s hard to envision a scenario where Thornton would okay a deal.
In theory, the Sharks could try to force him out by stripping him of the captaincy before the season starts, but the reality is that Thornton would probably accept a back seat on the leadership front to younger players like Logan Couture or Joe Pavelski if everyone felt it was the best path to a championship in San Jose.
-Craig Custance of ESPN on Joe Thornton. vVa ESPN Insider, but you can read a few other topics without a subscription.