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What’s Going On With Ryan O’Reilly In Colorado?

via Bob McKenzie tweets,

Lots of talk within NHL circles that COL has or will file "club-elected salary arbitration" on Ryan O'Reilly. If so, it will make waves.

O'Reilly is set to become a restricted free agent. If COL wants to retain his rights, they must give him qualifying offer of $6.5M.

Or they could negotiate a long-term deal. Or take him to club-elected arbitration. Latter is not unprecedented but it is highly unusual.

If arbitrator awarded O'Reilly less than the $6.5M he made this past season, the question is: how do you think O'Reilly would react to it?

check more of the recent tweets from Bob McKenzie...

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K let’s start it. Franzen, Tatar, Abbie, Backman and a first…boom done.

Posted by bizuce on 06/15/14 at 07:14 PM ET


Posted by bizuce on 06/15/14 at 07:14 PM ET

Why not throw in Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Nyquist?  And maybe Detroit can retain the maximum amount of each player’s salary too?

Posted by Garth on 06/15/14 at 07:43 PM ET


So you’re comparing Franzen and Tatar to Datysuk and Z? Man you’re impressive for being a smart alec.

Posted by bizuce on 06/15/14 at 08:02 PM ET


Yes dummesty. Just trying to start a dialogue on what it would take to get him.  Honestly they’d want mantha like everyone else so it’d have to be a pretty insane offer to even have a shot. Hence my somewhat tongue in cheek hypothetical. Sorry if that’s too profound for internet tough guy.

Posted by bizuce on 06/15/14 at 08:57 PM ET


Posted by bizuce on 06/15/14 at 08:02 PM ET

Actually, that’s not what I was doing at all.

I was saying that if you’re going to offer way way way way way way way way way way too much for a guy you might as go for broke.

But yeah, keep being “profound”.

Posted by Garth on 06/15/14 at 09:05 PM ET


K hope you’re having fun tonight buddy. Thanks for the great dialogue on what you think it’d take. The internet is fun.

Posted by bizuce on 06/15/14 at 09:48 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

A few points of clarification because things are new.

The arbitrator can’t award him less than 85% of his salary next year. No way he can get less than $5.525M.

O’Reilly will have the option of choosing either 1 or 2 years.  I’m honestly not sure which he’ll pick. One year gives him the ability to become an RFA again next year where he’ll have a bit more power in negotiations (and the Avs can’t take him to arbitration again).  However, a two-year deal makes him a UFA when all is said and done.

The Avalanche may not trade him while arbitration is pending.

In cases of players like O’Reilly and Frolik in Winnepeg today, they can essentially cancel the arbitration by signing an offer sheet between July 1st and the 5th.  No other arbitration cases this year will feature the ability of the player to still sign an offer sheet.

The Avs having filed for Arbitration will not have walk-away rights. They will be entirely compelled to sign O’Reilly to whatever award O’Reilly is given.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 06/15/14 at 09:56 PM ET


Thanks for the clarification, JJ.

Seems like an odd move, one almost has to wonder if they’re trying to encourage an offer sheet.

Posted by Garth on 06/15/14 at 11:17 PM ET


Thanks for the great dialogue on what you think it’d take.

Thanks for trying to start up a dialogue with a laughable scenario.  It certainly made me laugh.

Posted by Garth on 06/15/14 at 11:21 PM ET


I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but you keep missing the point Garth. I hope you’re not such a hater in the real world as well. Life is too short.

Posted by bizuce on 06/16/14 at 12:25 AM ET


@Garth and @bizuce

So, let’s be nice fellas. Bizuce was simply creating conversation by making a pretty crazy offer for O’Rielly. That was his point, I don’t think Bizuce would actually do that deal. Garth is right in saying that if we DID make that deal, the Red Wings would be giving up far far too much to get a defenseman we may already have in our farm system down the road. It’s different if this were a deal for say, Shea Weber or Ryan Suter or something like that.
I really hope the Red wings can acquire a dan boyle or matt niskanen. We need some form of solid D. I’m looking at all these teams and a lot of them in the playoffs have some really well paid D. Like, O’rielly in COL. The wings have… Kronwall… That’s it. Dekyser is good, but not really proven to be worth 6.5mil a year (what O’Rielly made) and the rest of our D isn’t paid much because they aren’t very good.

Posted by Pasha1277 on 06/16/14 at 07:28 AM ET


Posted by bizuce on 06/16/14 at 12:25 AM ET

I got your point.  Completely.  I think you fail to grasp mine.

To throw wingers and prospects and a first rounder at a guy who would be about our 8th centre is ludicrous.  It’s not even the start of a conversation, because where do you go from a ludicrous offer in order to get someone who plays a position that Detroit already has a lot of and doesn’t even address a need beyond “we need more goals”, which is someone that would be addressed and possibly improved on if the Wings get what they really need, which is some legit top four talent on the blueline.

Posted by Pasha1277 on 06/16/14 at 07:28 AM ET

Ryan O’Reilly is a centre, not a defenseman.

But the rest of your post is dead on.  The scenario that bizuce suggested could be the possible starting point for a top-tier defenseman, which is something that Detroit desperately needs (because you’re right Pasha, Kronwall is currently their best, and he’s really not a bonafide #1).

Signing Niskanen would be fantastic and could definitely be possible.  Stralman would be my second choice, because he’s still young and he’s stable though not earth-shattering.  Boyle?  I would cringe a little bit if the Wings gave him two years because of the recent history of giving multi-year deals to older players and because of Detroit’s tendency to have all but their mediocre defensemen get injured.  Having said that, if they can’t land Niskanen or Stralman (or won’t pay them market value) then Boyle would be fine as a bridge.

Posted by Garth on 06/16/14 at 12:46 PM ET

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