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Video- The Mason Raymond Spin

Another spin-o-rama goal in the shootout and a victory for the Canucks.

What you don’t see is the Islanders goaltender chirping at Mason after the shootout goal.  And ths via Chris Botta tweet,

Kevin Poulin on Mason Raymond’s spinarama goal in the shootout: “It’s a show-off move.”

Hopefully, a video with better quality will come out soon.

Better video added at 10:49pm


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mmuskrat's avatar

Prediction: The shootout will deteriorate into entirely spinoramas, because they work that damn well.

Kidding aside, they do seem to be a pretty effective fake.  Although, if the goalie doesn’t follow the player, it’s a sure save. 

What I don’t get is what all this whining about it being a “showoff” move is all about.  He scored ... you got beat; that sort of means it worked, right?  It’s a little odd to say that you got beat by another professional athlete because he did a cheap trick, isn’t it?  Wouldn’t that mean you got beat by a cheap trick?

Posted by mmuskrat on 01/12/11 at 01:44 AM ET

Chris from NOHS's avatar

Agreed, though these aren’t that hard to stop if the goalie doesn’t flail at the end.

Posted by Chris from NOHS from Denver CO on 01/12/11 at 02:26 AM ET

John W.'s avatar

These goalies need to stop whining.  You can’t tell me if a cartwheel was a good way to make a save the goalies wouldn’t try it.  If you don’t like spin moves, find a way to stop it and the shooters will stop trying it.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 01/12/11 at 02:44 AM ET

datsyukdanglesyou's avatar

Nothing new here, just another man behind the mask who’ll feel upset because he got shown up and scored on.  Goalies need to quit crying and let their pads/stick/glove do the talking.

Posted by datsyukdanglesyou on 01/12/11 at 03:08 AM ET

John W.'s avatar

I could see a team upset if someone came down on a breakaway with an empty net and did a spin-o-rama.  That would be showboating.  But who’s to say scoring on a goalie using the spin-o-rama is showboating, while that sick move Datsyuk uses that gets the goalies to essentially dive away from the net (Turco, Vokoun etc)or the alternate soft flip he did on Niemi, is just a great deke.  Let’s face it, all dekes are designed to make the goalie look foolish for falling for a fake, that’s why they work.  I haven’t heard any skaters complain when goalies make a big glove save and exaggerate the catch with the big arm wave.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 01/12/11 at 03:44 AM ET

SYF's avatar


Poulin, get over yourself.

Posted by SYF from impossible and oddly communally possessive sluts on 01/12/11 at 04:50 AM ET


No idea who Kevin Poulin is. If he’s the goaltender, he should be worried about not being sent back to the ECHL. If he’s a journalist, he should focus on avoiding blackball by Garth Snow.

Posted by StevieSteve on 01/12/11 at 05:31 AM ET

Baroque's avatar

I could see a team upset if someone came down on a breakaway with an empty net and did a spin-o-rama.  That would be showboating.

True. That would be completely unnecessary and purely done as a flourish. In the shootout they are done because they are effective, not for fancy effect. It’s like the difference between watching a really long home run go, especially by a player who doesn’t hit many, and watching a home run go, then staring in at the pitcher while trotting around the bases extremely slowly, and taking a few looks back into the stands to admire how far it went. That’s piling on for the purposes of annoying the other team.

I’m not much of a “act like you’ve been there before” especially if someone hasn’t been there before, I think it sounds old and crotchety, but there is a difference between showing off and just being better than someone else.

Pavel Datsyuk stealing the puck from a defenseman isn’t showing off, it’s being better. Stamkos ripping a shot past a goaltender isn’t showing off, it’s being better. Helm out-skating someone isn’t showing off, it’s being better. And a skater scoring on a goaltender after a spin in the shootout isn’t showing off, it’s being better.

I wish the goaltenders would stop moving their gloves so fast and get in the way of shots. That’s just a show-off move.

For a sport with such a rough tough macho reputation, there is a lot of whining about “respect” and “class” and “humility” without any real understanding of the meaning of the words other than “I don’t want anyone else to make me look bad, ever.”

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 01/12/11 at 07:16 AM ET

Jon Jordan's avatar

Poulin, in his second NHL game, has nothing to say but, regarding these spin moves on shootouts, I think I’ve found the solution:

Billy Smith would have been scored on like this once and once only. The next guy to attempt it would be the last.

Instead, we suffer through incessant whining from goalies and players alike, screaming about “disrespect”.

If the referee ascertains that the puck continued to move forward throughout the attempt (in recent cases, I don’t see how they could, though they have), then there is no complaint.

Don’t like it? Stop the puck.

End of story.


Posted by Jon Jordan from Tampa, FL on 01/12/11 at 11:13 AM ET


This is a legal goal and players should get over it. The NHL wanted shootouts and this is the result, maybe soon we’ll get to see a lacrosse style goal too.  I’d like to see the NHL add a defensemen to the shootout that starts at the far blueline and then can chase the forward that is on the “breakaway” .  Then we’ll get to see how many spin moves or slow motion zig zag goals we get. It would just be nice to make the shootout a little bit more like real hockey.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 01/12/11 at 12:17 PM ET

hockeychic's avatar

JJ has it right, don’t like it?  don’t let him score.

Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 01/12/11 at 02:56 PM ET


The NHL wanted shootouts and this is the result, maybe soon we’ll get to see a lacrosse style goal too.

Rob Schremp used to do that in the AHL. Now that he seems to skate a regular shift on Long Island, it’s only a matter of time.

Not that I care, either way. It’s a skills competition. Don’t like the skill in question? Learn how to stop it. The other guy will look like an idiot if he misses.

Posted by StevieSteve on 01/12/11 at 03:01 PM ET


I liked Grabovski’s spin move. It looked like Conklin had him beat until he added the complete spin/forehand shot.

Posted by NathanBC on 01/12/11 at 03:22 PM ET

Hippy Dave's avatar

Show off move or not, the puck went in the net.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Somewhere West of Detroit on 01/12/11 at 08:03 PM ET

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