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Should Jeremy Roenick Be In The Hockey Hall Of Fame?

from Scott Burnside of ESPN,

The Case For

Roenick is among a group of players whose career numbers suggest the Hall of Fame when viewed from afar. Drafted 8th overall by the Chicago Blackhawks straight out of high school, Roenick had 1,213 points in 1,363 regular-season games while playing a tough-nosed style that also saw him collect 1,463 penalty minutes. In the playoffs, he collected an impressive 53 goals and 122 points in 154 games through his 18-year career. He had a stellar international career as a junior and won a silver medal with Team USA in Salt Lake City in 2002, collecting five points in six games on the way to the U.S. losing to Canada in the gold-medal game. He was also with the U.S. team that finished second at the 1991 Canada Cup and was named to the all-tournament team. Three times in his career, Roenick topped the 100-point mark and twice scored more than 50 goals. Always a fan favorite, Roenick was also highly regarded for his charitable and humanitarian work.

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Yes.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 08/11/15 at 10:52 AM ET

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Yes.

Posted by TreKronor on 08/11/15 at 11:00 AM ET

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Painfully, I agree.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 08/11/15 at 11:22 AM ET

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perhaps, but certainly not before Recchi is inducted

Posted by shazam88 from SoCal on 08/11/15 at 11:58 AM ET

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EA Sports votes yes. Aside from that, IMO he was good enough for long enough that he should get in.

Posted by Unhealthy Scratch on 08/11/15 at 12:08 PM ET

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No.  He wasn’t a top 5 center in the NHL for a significant length of time.  He’d be an affirmative-action candidate to get more Americans in—but he wasn’t even the best American center of his era.

Posted by captaineclectic on 08/11/15 at 12:11 PM ET

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Yes, but barely.

Posted by thethirdcoast from Rochester, NY on 08/11/15 at 12:29 PM ET

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Yes on Roenick.

Yes on Recchi.

No on Lindros.

Posted by mrfluffy from the phone, calling Detroit, telling them it's on 08/11/15 at 12:29 PM ET

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No.  He wasn’t a top 5 center in the NHL for a significant length of time.  He’d be an affirmative-action candidate to get more Americans in—but he wasn’t even the best American center of his era.

Posted by captaineclectic on 08/11/15 at 12:11 PM ET

This.

Never won a Cup.  Never won a major award.  May not have even been one of the Top 10 centers in the league during much of his career because of the ridiculous quality at the position league-wide,

Roenick is the poster boy for “really needs something else” for his HHoF resume, but he doesn’t have that anything else…

Posted by Primis on 08/11/15 at 01:19 PM ET

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Roenick’s case is not really as strong as you might think when you compare him to his more accomplished contemporaries.

- Only twice did he finish in the league’s top 10 in goals or points.
- Never finished higher than 10th in the league in points per game (among qualifying players).
- Only received Hart votes in 2 seasons and never finished higher than fifth.
- Never made first- or second-team all star (and never really got close either).
- Looking at both boxcar stats, he was really only a top-5 offensive center in the NHL from about 1992-94, and arguably also in 2000. And while I think Roenick was probably competent in his own zone, it’s not like he was adding tons of defensive value either.
- Play dropped off quickly after age 34 (most players with solid Hall credentials remain effective top-six forwards well into their mid-late 30s, provided they stay healthy).

He certainly wouldn’t be the worst recent inductee, but I can think of a few other eligible candidates (Recchi in particular) who have clearly superior resumes and are not yet inducted.

Roenick is pretty much my line in the sand, I think. If you’re better than Roenick, you’re in. That puts Roenick himself just outside, unfortunately.

Posted by Sven22 from Grand Rapids on 08/11/15 at 04:15 PM ET

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He is a borderline case an that’s what makes the lack of awards and team accomplishments a thing that really should be taken into consideration. One does have to draw the line somewhere and this might be it.

Osgood, Joseph, Roenick and others probably fit into the category of very good players but just not Hall worthy. I think you want only the best of the best in the hall.

Posted by evileye on 08/11/15 at 04:24 PM ET

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Tough call, and I don’t think I’d be upset either way.  Although, after explaining to current Blackhawk fans who Roenick is, they all agreed he should be in the hall.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 08/11/15 at 04:44 PM ET

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Yes on Roenick.

Yes on Recchi.

No on Lindros.

It’s interesting to me that you say that because, to me, Lindros has easily the strongest case of the three. In my Hall, he’s a no-brainer, but he’s an interesting case because his circumstances are so unusual.

What I come back to is the fact that, for a period of about six years in the mid-to-late 90s he has a strong case for being the best forward in the NHL not named Lemieux or Jagr. I don’t know how you keep out a guy who was that dominant for more than half a decade.

But I’m very much on the “peak value” side of the peak value vs. longevity debate as far as Hall credentials are concerned. I usually care more about how long you were a top-5 player in the NHL at your position than how many points or goals you ended up with, unless you’re the kind of rare freak that almost never enters the conversation for best in the league but hangs out just at or outside the cutline of the top-5 for 15+ years. That category would include Mats Sundin and ... uh, that’s about it.

(For the record, I’d be yes on Lindros, yes on Recchi, no on Roenick.)

Posted by Sven22 from Grand Rapids on 08/11/15 at 04:46 PM ET

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It’s already not the hall of great players, it’s the hall of pretty darn good players.  Fill’er up.  Maybe do 5 a year, just to try to accommodate every guy that popped 50.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 08/12/15 at 01:15 AM ET

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Painfully, I agree.

I agree. LOL

Posted by bigfrog on 08/12/15 at 08:00 PM ET

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