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Morning Line- Eric Duhatschek On Jonathan Drouin

Before he was ever drafted by the Lightning third overall in the NHL’s 2013 entry draft, Drouin’s reputation was mostly good. A smallish but extremely skilled player, he reminded scouts a little of Kane, someone with an excellent finishing touch, who could rattle off goals like no one’s business.

That’s the reputation he had. That’s the reputation he needs to salvage – and sooner would be better than later because reputations, once developed, have a way of following someone around for a long time.

-Eric Duhatschek of the Globe and Mail where you can read more on this situation.

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The Meal's avatar

If I was trying to repair my perceived character, I’d try everything I could to remove comparisons with Patrick Kane.

I feel terrible for this kid.  Seems like he’s being fed really bad advice.  And Yzerman gets an A+ from me for how he’s handling everything.

Posted by The Meal from Firestone, CO on 01/22/16 at 10:38 AM ET

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That’s gonna be hard to do after scoffing at the question of whether or not he and his agent are on the same page.. he said ” oh yeah, we’re good”

KID had a good rep because it’s easy for people to be the right way when everything is going good.  Once he hit adversity he crumbled.  Shitty character.  Just never had a chance to see it until now.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 01/22/16 at 10:05 AM ET

It’s funny.  I talked a bit about Frk and Drouin yesterday, but went back then and looked deeper.  All the talk about Frk benefitting from Drouin… what may actually be the case is the inverse, Drouin benfitted from Halifax having good talents around him to take focus off.  Drouin had MacKinnon and Frk in 2012-13…. and then after they left he still wan’t necessarily the primary threat on the team, as Halifax had picked up one Nikolaj Ehlers by then in 2013-14 (not on his line I believe, but still scoring over 100 pts so Drouin wasn’t the only threat opponents could key in on).  So while his junior numbers were good, you have to now really wonder how legit they were, or if he was more a product of circumstances.  I get a very Evan McGrath-ish vibe from the kid—a playmaker in juniors who racks up assists in juniors, but it never translates into anything at a higher level because he just doesn’t have the drive or tenacity.  Drouin’s numbers are just even better because look who he had around him…

So I would agree:  the kid always did fine and never really had to deal with any effort and adversity, and now doesn’t understand why things aren’t just being handed to him like before.  He’s supremely unprepared

I don’t know if what Duhatschek suggests is even possible at this point, to salvage things.  In a league where character is scrutinized more than most other sports, where being late once in preseason gets you sent back to juniors for the entire year… you wonder if he didn’t just already blwo it and it’s too late.

He’s not NHL-ready in any universe.  And he’s not ever going to be unless he mans up and does his time in the minors, and even then his game is so shallow it’s no guarantee.  Welcome to actual real life.

Posted by Primis on 01/22/16 at 10:43 AM ET

pautna's avatar

St. Louis, Stamkos and now Drouin. All unique situations but what’s the common denominator? Steve Yzerman. A pattern is emerging and in my mind Steve’s reputation for not being able to handle or take care of his players is forming.

Posted by pautna on 01/22/16 at 01:59 PM ET

d ca's avatar

I have to agree with putna….I think Yzerman has an issue with superstar players or those that bask in media attention. Probably because of the kind of player he was…so maybe it’s unintentional and subconscious.

There were always reports of issues between Fedorov and Yzerman in Detroit. 

Yzerman did himself no favors getting rid of players like:

Steve Downie (in case you don’t remember that’s how Detroit got Quincey for a 1st rounder). In case you try to blow that off…you don’t understand his importance at the time with another Steve on their team…Stamkos
http://espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=5842878

then you have St Louis bonding with Stamkos and he gets traded…and St Louis had an issue with Yzerman well before he was left off team Canada
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/shoalts-the-complicated-story-behind-the-st-louis-callahan-swap/article17339317/

Stamkos sees Yzerman buyout Lecavalier’s contract.

...and people wonder why Stamkos hasn’t signed with Tampa yet? Might be time to start looking at the GM…as blasphemous as that is here in Detroit…it really is an issue with “the future Wings GM.”

Posted by d ca on 01/22/16 at 02:44 PM ET

pautna's avatar

“Probably because of the kind of player he was…so maybe it’s unintentional and subconscious.”

That’s interesting because I thought when became GM that he’d be a good ‘players GM’, having been one himself. Yet what you wrote makes sense regarding his style when he played.

Posted by pautna on 01/22/16 at 03:32 PM ET

nEgativezEro's avatar

...and people wonder why Stamkos hasn’t signed with Tampa yet? Might be time to start looking at the GM…as blasphemous as that is here in Detroit…it really is an issue with “the future Wings GM.”

Posted by d ca on 01/22/16 at 02:44 PM ET

To be fair to Stevie, a lot of these “issues” seem to fall on Cooper just as much. Cooper is the one who decided to put Stamkos on the wing, despite his protest. Cooper is the one who limited Drouin’s playing time, and played a large role in his eventual demotion to the minors.

Yzerman’s loyalty needs to be to the team, and coming from the Detroit system, he’s been bred to understand that no player is bigger than the team, even if you’re a star. It’s hard to say exactly what friction caused St. Louis to request a move multiple times. By all means it didn’t seem like it was an issue on-ice. It may have just been Marty wanting to play closer to home, as he stated (as we’re seeing similar with Hamonic right now). The initial olympic “snub” may have been the final push. We don’t know.

Yzerman has only had so much to do with Stamkos. Lecavalier needed to be bought out. His contract was a major issue that needed to be resolved. His hand was forced with St. Louis. Even now, he’s got to weigh the decision whether to keep Stamkos at the like 9+ million he’s asking versus all of the other players who need new contracts in the upcoming couple seasons.

As far as Drouin, he’s a kid who’s proven all of nothing at the NHL level yet. He’s a kid who hadn’t produced, and didn’t like the role he was given. He liked the demotion to the minors even less, and publicly asked out, after privately doing so earlier. Unlike the Seguin comparisons, Seguin was a proven NHL commodity who had a bad off-ice reputation. Drouin had no reputation on ice, and off ice is tarnished now as well. While I can understand his frustration, he’s earned no favor by his actions both on and off the ice.

Now, obviously Yzerman’s extension of Cooper shows his support of the coach, which by extension shows where his allegiance to the players is as well. If Stamkos and Drouin both have issues playing for Cooper, it might end up with both leaving the club. (Drouin for sure at the point, Stamkos still up in the air).

Yes Yzerman was the GM at the helm for all 3 players, but I’m not sure how much culpability you can place on his hands.

Posted by nEgativezEro on 01/22/16 at 04:08 PM ET

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To be fair to Stevie, a lot of these “issues” seem to fall on Cooper just as much. Cooper is the one who decided to put Stamkos on the wing, despite his protest. Cooper is the one who limited Drouin’s playing time, and played a large role in his eventual demotion to the minors.

True, but while Drouin was being scratched every second game (and looking to get out of TB) and Stamkos was unsigned and (maybe) unhappy with Cooper, Stevie re-signed Cooper, so clearly Yzerman approves of Cooper’s methods.

Also, Steve Yzerman is the GM and -just like making promises to Cleary and re-signing Ericsson, Kindl and Smith to big, unearned raises are all ultimately on Ken Holland- that’s where the buck stops.

Posted by Garth on 01/22/16 at 05:51 PM ET

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I just hope Drouin and Stamkos do not end up in Detroit. I do not want us to get “uncoachable” players (term used by former coach in Toronto Randy Carlyle when he came out with his relationship with players like Phil Kessel).

Posted by tutoka from Leelanau Peninsula on 01/23/16 at 01:01 AM ET

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Kessel and Stamkos did not want to play on a wing. To me, this kind of attitude is an absolute deal breaker. Since CBA grants such an extraorbitant protection even to crazy or lazy players, I would never risk by signing contract with such a unpredictable type of player.

Posted by tutoka from Leelanau Peninsula on 01/23/16 at 01:10 AM ET

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