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Afternoon Line- Bob McKenzie

We should simply state what we now believe to be patently obvious: The Ottawa Senators are open to the idea of trading Erik Karlsson by Monday.

Let’s not get into the semantics of whether they’re “shopping” Karlsson or just “listening.” We kind of went down that forked road with P.K. Subban and the Montreal Canadiens, didn’t we?

The reality is Ottawa Senators’ general manager Pierre Dorion has been, and still is, engaged in some level of trade dialogue for Karlsson with multiple NHL teams, certainly more than a half-dozen.

- Bob McKenzie of TSN where you can read more on this topic.

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Pierre LeBrun tweets,

One Western Conference GM suggested to me today that Ottawa could also be laying down the framework for a June Karlsson trade by beginning the process now in terms of laying out the principles/asks….

But on the other hand some contenders may be willing to pay more now for 2 guaranteed playoff runs, just not dip too much in their NHL core roster however… whereas off-season deal involves more teams, more cap/roster flexibility

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 02/21/18 at 05:57 PM ET

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Oh man. This could be AZ moving on Karlsson. They give up a decent D prospect to eat Ryan’s contract and get a shot at signing Karlsson?

Ottawa really wants Ryan’s contract off the books. AZ is a black hole for contracts. That’s where I’d guess LeBrun is talking about.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 02/21/18 at 07:25 PM ET

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Why trade Karlsson?

Posted by VPalmer on 02/21/18 at 07:36 PM ET

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Why trade Karlsson?
Posted by VPalmer on 02/21/18 at 06:36 PM ET

It’s looking like Karlsson does not want to come back to Ottawa. It seems they are gauging what people are willing to pay. My real guess is they do just what Detroit did with Green. get a sense of who is sniffing around then make the trade this time next year. Landing Karlsson next season would be a boon for any team (not that now would too).

It is also known Ottawa wants to dump Ryan’s salary. A package deal would help them get out from under that bad deal. Keep in Mind, Ryan is not a terrible player,he’s just not what he used to be when he earned that KH-like contract.

Maybe the trade to AZ would be for OEL? He also becomes a UFA in two years. I bet Ottawa’s first round pick is what AZ wants: two chances at Dahln. Maybe that’s what they think will keep Karlsson around. Pair-n with Dalhn?

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 02/21/18 at 07:56 PM ET

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I get the temptation of trading him now, and you have to make the deal if you get an offer that knocks you on your ass, but there are so many more potential suitors in the summer.

Think about the non-playoff teams who would make a pitch for Karlsson in the hopes that they can convince him to re-sign. I could see LA trying to bring him in, hoping that maybe he and Doughty decide to sign there together. If Nashville or Tampa Bay underperform in the playoffs I could see Poile or Mr. Y taking a serious run at Karlsson.

Hell, think of Edmonton. Think of texting Peter Chiarelli the day before the draft with a photoshopped picture of Karlsson in an Oilers sweater. Think of what you could get from him if he’s still around.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 02/21/18 at 09:04 PM ET

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Bruce Garrioch at the Ottawa Citizen,

The talk surrounding Erik Karlsson’s future with the Ottawa Senators has suddenly reached a feverish pitch.

The Senators don’t want to trade their captain and franchise player, but word around the National Hockey League is that they’re listening to offers and there’s no shortage of interest.

With the annual trade deadline falling at 3 p.m. on Monday, Senators general manager Pierre Dorion isn’t shopping the 27-year-old Karlsson, but teams have called because his long-term future is uncertain with his contract set to expire on July 1, 2019.

Listening is part of Dorion’s job even if these are offers he can easily refuse but the fact Karlsson’s name is out there means the level of activity will increase in the coming days as the deadline draws closer.

continjed

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 02/21/18 at 09:04 PM ET

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Hell, I have no doubt Detroit would take a run at Karlsson in some kind of home that they can edge around a real rebuild.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 02/21/18 at 09:06 PM ET

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Hell, I have no doubt Detroit would take a run at Karlsson

Doubtful, as he wouldn’t make the Red Wings much better. Plus what would Detroit have to offer? Draft picks? The Red Wings need to hold onto those picks.  confused

Posted by bigfrog on 02/21/18 at 09:38 PM ET

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Doubtful, as he wouldn’t make the Red Wings much better. Plus what would Detroit have to offer? Draft picks? The Red Wings need to hold onto those picks.  confused

I didn’t say i agree with it, but if Ken Holland is still around do you really doubt that he would at least…ahem…kick the tires?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 02/21/18 at 10:54 PM ET

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Too bad Detroit doesn’t have the cap flexibility to take on his contract plus Ryan’s now or this summer. Even if they did I’m not sure something like AA plus Detroit’s next 2 first round picks would satisfy Ottawa.

You know damn well Melnyk doesn’t want to buyout Ryan. Yes, it gets the team cap relief but Melnyk still has to write the checks. He’d rather get rid of that contract and take less in return. He’s all about saving the dollars.

Posted by evileye on 02/22/18 at 10:30 AM ET

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If Nashville .....taking a serious run at Karlsson.
Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 02/21/18 at 08:04 PM ET

Ironically, Nashville traded to Ottawa the pick that was used to take Karlsson.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/trade-tree-senators-acquired-pick-used-erik-karlsson/

How funny is that? Nashville traded the 15th to move back to the 18th to take Chet Pickard (who’s that?) and the 70th pick, Taylor Beck (who’s that)? Now they would add insult to injury to pick up Karlsson by adding more assets to it that original debacle. I wonder if this means Nashville is no longer a good model for Detroit to follow?

Seriously, though, Imagine how awesome Nashville’s D would be with Karlsson too….....Wow, no other western conference Dman should even apply for the all-star game.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 02/22/18 at 07:02 PM ET

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