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Max Bultman of The Athletic,

The expectation shouldn’t be that the Red Wings find their Pettersson or Makar this year, mind you. Or next year. Or any year, individually, because those are rare, exceptional players. But by acquiring as many picks as they have, the Red Wings are giving themselves a chance to capitalize on both the uncertainty of this scouting season and the more inherent uncertainty of projecting the futures of 17- and 18-year-old boys.

Again, it’s the hard way. But it’s the only road available to the Red Wings. And likely will continue to be.

Detroit’s five picks in the first two rounds this season will also give them the opportunity to develop that other quality the league’s current titans possess: depth. And not just in terms of bodies. The Avalanche and Lightning have very good hockey players, up and down their lineups. That may not be the sexy part of those teams, but it may well be what differentiates them from the other star-laden teams that haven’t yet broken through.

Unlike the one franchise-changing star whom lotteries sometimes provide, that kind of depth takes years to fully reveal itself, if it arrives at all. That’s one more maddening aspect of all the lost lotteries, and why the prospect of superior lineup depth (eventually, and also only maybe) hardly feels like a suitable consolation.

more ($$$)

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 06/03/21 at 10:48 AM ET

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Please call out these beat writers more often, Steve. Maybe some embarrassment will cause them to up their games slightly.

Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids on 06/03/21 at 10:59 AM ET

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I see the top 4 picks as Power, Berniers, Guenther and Hughes(not necessarily in that order). It should be fun to watch after that cuz then it’s anybody’s guess. I think SY & company will go with a euro since thats the only area they could scout somewhat consistently throughout everything going on this past year

Posted by SauceBoss on 06/03/21 at 01:13 PM ET

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Adam Kimelman and Mike Morreale of NHL.com with their mock draft,

6. Detroit Red Wings

Kimelman—Jesper Wallstedt, G, Lulea (SWE): The Red Wings need a goalie to add to their development pipeline and Wallstedt (6-3, 214) is the best available. Detroit general manager Steve Yzerman is fearless when it comes to identifying talent. Two years ago, the Red Wings had the No. 6 pick and went against the grain to select defenseman Moritz Seider, who now looks like a future top-pair player. It wouldn’t be a surprise to see a similar move by the Red Wings here. Wallstedt has a calm, controlled style, tracks pucks well and already has experience playing in the top league.

Morreale—Mason McTavish, C, Peterborough (OHL): A powerful skater with balance and solid puck-protection skills, McTavish (6-1, 207) scored 11 points (nine goals, two assists) in 13 games on loan with EHC Olten in the Swiss League, the second-highest professional league in Switzerland. He scored 11 points (five goals, six assists) in seven games to help Canada win the U-18s.

more teams…

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 06/03/21 at 01:27 PM ET

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Chris Peters of HockeySense (paid) with his mock draft.

6. Detroit Red Wings: Jesper Wallstedt, G, Luleå (SHL)

Another wild card GM, Steve Yzerman didn’t come close to tipping his hand as to what he’s thinking in his post lottery press conference. The Wings could potentially add another franchise defenseman if they went with Edvinsson or Clarke. They could improve their center depth, too, with Mason McTavish or someone like that. But it’s very, very rare to be in a position to land a future starting goalie. Perhaps Detroit would gamble and hope for a goalie with their second first-round pick, but I don’t think one will be available. Wallstedt is the most credible option to be the goalie of the future and I wouldn’t blame Detroit for being bold and going to get the first goaltender on the board. Yzerman experienced the importance of finding the right goalie in the draft when he selected Andrei Vasilevskiy. Wallstedt is one of the rare goalie prospects that looks like he has star potential in net.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 06/03/21 at 01:36 PM ET

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I feel for you guys, it seems strange that I am not planning to have “Draft Party Fever” on Long Island since we don’t have ANY picks now! smile

I would trust Steve to field a terrific team.  Time to build up the farm with some talent and the key to success is always finding mid round gems.  The cap space will be needed to use down the road, once the team turns the tide - they can use the cap space wisely to grow the team at the right time.  Trust the process.

Posted by Kaszycki and his Krew on 06/03/21 at 01:42 PM ET

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I would have asked him if there is any progress getting Petruzzelli signed.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 06/03/21 at 02:13 PM ET

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This video is great

Posted by Shanny_Fan on 06/03/21 at 02:27 PM ET

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Just noticed Kahn did ask him about 2 weeks ago with no new info.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 06/03/21 at 02:35 PM ET

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I’m loving that the three “prognosticators” all picked Wallstedt. I’ve been lobbying for him for two months now. I posted some links to info about, and evaluations of, both he and Cossa in this earlier thread.

Perhaps Detroit would gamble and hope for a goalie with their second first-round pick, but I don’t think one will be available.

Cossa may or may not be around at #23, but the Wings have enough second-round picks to add one to Washington’s pick at #23 to move up a few slots if they feel they need to.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 06/03/21 at 02:41 PM ET

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Please call out these beat writers more often, Steve. Maybe some embarrassment will cause them to up their games slightly.

Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids on 06/03/21 at 10:59 AM ET

Max Bultman of The Athletic has pretty strong game. Asking him to name his top 2 players that will be taken isn’t embarrassing him. If anything, it makes the Yzerman look petty.  The same goes for not announcing the length of the contract for assistant/associate coaches. This team could use a lot more press coverage—unless you believe the empty seats next year are people checking out the concourse.

He could have simply said, I don’t want to get into rankings, tiers, and what we value because it could put the club at a disadvantage—say, by allowing another club to leapfrog us in the draft to go after the player we’re targeting.

I think Yzerman got wind of his article, “How the Red Wings’ draft lottery tumbles have affected Detroit’s rebuild” and a small part of him doesn’t want to have to criticize his friend Ken Holland by talking about Quinn Hughes (instead of Filip Zadina) or Nick Suzuki (instead of Michael Rasmussen) or getting into specifics talking about how Stanley Cup winners are built with a top 2 overall picks with only a very, very small exceptions because that reminds the fan base they lost out on Cale Makar, Andrei Svechnikov, Jack Hughes, and Alexis Lafrenière—players that would be making a difference in the rebuild instead of continuing to ask for more patience by fans.

Yzerman can downplay the importance of needing top picks in the draft all he wants…but fans discontent grows with each year of the rebuild without a superstar to give the fans hope for the future. Now his job becomes that much more difficult as he may need to acquire one via trade or free agency.

Posted by d ca on 06/03/21 at 04:34 PM ET

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Yzerman can downplay the importance of needing top picks in the draft all he wants…but fans discontent grows with each year of the rebuild without a superstar to give the fans hope for the future. Now his job becomes that much more difficult as he may need to acquire one via trade or free agency.

Nah he’s just much smarter than any fan, understands what a colossal shit show he inherited and that it was ALWAYS going to take a long while to build this organization back up the right way. Holland’s draft misses aren’t on Yzerman so why bring it up? It’s completely irrelevant. Also, eff the fans who can’t grasp what a total teardown and rebuild looks like. We’re two years in for chrisakes and only just beginning to get out from under Holland’s bloated contracts.

Posted by godblender on 06/03/21 at 05:24 PM ET

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I have a lot of faith in Yzerman drafting, but it absolutely matters.  I believe no team since the Detroit Red Wings has won a cup without a top 5 pick being a focal point of the team, maybe not the best player or the MVP, but certainly a significant factor.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerHolland2.0's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 06/03/21 at 06:28 PM ET

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“We’ll note that…..thank you”

That was actually pretty hilarious.

Posted by lefty.30 on 06/03/21 at 06:54 PM ET

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Lol, I think some of you guys are really bored.

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 06/03/21 at 06:58 PM ET

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That video made my day

Posted by SevensForTed on 06/03/21 at 07:00 PM ET

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If I was a relatively young reporter and writer like Bultman
I’d be pleased once the slight deer in headlights feeling wore off
that the GM engaged me in a challenging way. Yzerman was just having fun in making his point. There was no disrespect. You’re more likely usually to take the piss out or someone you like.

I doubt Yzerman cares about an article about lottery drops or possibly somewhat bungled picks that predated him. He can only work with the picks the lottery spits out.

Is it more of a challenge usually when you can’t pick whomever you want - especially in a draft with really exceptional impact talents? Of course. Unless you’re picking a year like Hischier and Patrick. Would have been fascinating to see what Yzerman would have done with a 1-2 pick in that draft btw, given he and his scouting experts don’t seem to follow groupthink so much.

We need to find a star or two in the 2nd-5th rounds or so.
No doubt. And we need to find a franchise goalie.
Really interesting multiple draft profilers see Wallstadt going that high.
Clearly we have other serious needs like LD and C. But if those positional players available don’t look to our experts like truly high-end players, and Wallstadt does, maybe you go with the goalie’s upside. Do we have goaltending gurus in Sweden like we do great minds re: skaters?

Posted by lefty.30 on 06/03/21 at 07:09 PM ET

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Hes talking to Ansar Khan not Max.  Page of text wasted lol.

Posted by ThatGuy on 06/03/21 at 09:20 PM ET

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Ha - oh well - either way.

I’d rather have a GM with some personality
jousting with me than nothing but by the numbers cliches.

Posted by lefty.30 on 06/03/21 at 09:45 PM ET

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Nah he’s just much smarter than any fan, understands what a colossal shit show he inherited and that it was ALWAYS going to take a long while to build this organization back up the right way. Holland’s draft misses aren’t on Yzerman so why bring it up? It’s completely irrelevant. Also, eff the fans who can’t grasp what a total teardown and rebuild looks like. We’re two years in for chrisakes and only just beginning to get out from under Holland’s bloated contracts.

Posted by godblender on 06/03/21 at 05:24 PM ET

It’s not just 2 years into a rebuild. The rebuild started in Feb 2017: the Wings traded away: Jurco for a 3rd, Brendan Smith for a 2nd and 3rd, Vanek for a 3rd, and Ott for a 6th. If you want to extend that until the start of the next season fine—but it’s going on year 5 of the rebuild. And if you don’t like that date the next season they traded away Mrazek and Tatar for picks as well.

It’s not just one fan, it’s many. Yzerman himself stated he was left a core of Larkin, Mantha, AA, and Hronek. He still has two and used the others to acquire another core member plus picks and the other became two additional 2nd rounders.  Even setting aside those trades he made, Yzerman was left a top 10 pick and two additional picks toward the bottom of the 2nd round plus another 2nd rounder in 2020 by Holland. I am among the most critical of Holland there is here and even I believe that’s not a $h!t show. My problem was always they started way too late and gave up trading away top tier talent that would have netted significant pieces.

Holland’s misses have only just recently been able to play significant minutes because they were over-ripened in GR and overseas: that’s entirely on Yzerman. The philosophy of making the kids earn it while handing it to mistake prone vets (whether acquired in free agency/trades/or internal) was part of the downfall of Holland: the names Tomas Nosek and Mattias Janmark continue to prove as much.

The Wings have 48,150,27 in cap space this off-season; while there are a few bad contracts from Holland left. In aggregate they aren’t a limiting factor.

Posted by d ca on 06/03/21 at 11:24 PM ET

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they were over-ripened in GR and overseas: that’s entirely on Yzerman.

Who was overriped in GR in the last 2 years?

Posted by VPalmer on 06/04/21 at 09:30 AM ET

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“We’ll note that…..thank you”

That was actually pretty hilarious.

Posted by lefty.30 on 06/03/21 at 06:54 PM ET

Indeed.
He brilliantly played off reporters trying to get him to say specific names.

Posted by RWBill on 06/06/21 at 12:01 PM ET

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Yzerman Grilling Prospect Kirby Dach.

Dach was later drafted by the Cawks as the third pick overall in the 2019 NHL Draft.

I was holding my sides in hysterics.

Posted by SYF from impossible and oddly communally possessive sluts on 06/07/21 at 01:32 PM ET

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