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Quick Recap- Detroit/Columbus

Columbus lead the game 2-0 and it looked like one of those games where Detroit competes but can't score.

3:02 changed all that when the Wings went on a scoring rampage with 3 goals.

After 40 minutes the Wings were up 3-2.

Detroit added two empty net goals in the 3rd and the Wings win 5-2

Goals are below.

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ilovehomers's avatar

Great shot by Veleno.

Once again, Vrana scores more consistently than Mantha ever did.

Lol to the tanking crowd. Your heart is in the right place, but the org has much more class than that. Time to get over it.

Posted by ilovehomers on 05/07/21 at 09:27 PM ET

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Playing well. Again. If they win Saturday, they finish ahead of Columbus. smirk  Like I said it probably won’t make much difference based on the last four drafts. angry

Posted by bigfrog on 05/07/21 at 09:38 PM ET

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This draft is also ridiculously underscouted so Im not worried about where in the too 10 we pick.  The top 15 varies so wildly prediction to prediction,  its anyones draft.

Posted by ThatGuy on 05/07/21 at 09:51 PM ET

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Like I said it probably won’t make much difference based on the last four drafts

I think not much difference this year between second and 10th picks. But tanking rarely helps, especially us. We are playing well, trying hard and hopefully will be rewarded by the lottery balls.

Posted by VPalmer on 05/07/21 at 09:52 PM ET

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Ken and Mick sure were having fun, as was the team. These games are a lot more fun to watch, especially seeing the team actually getting offensive chances. Who cares if the BJs suck - still fun to watch.

Wait a second…

Posted by TreKronor on 05/07/21 at 10:00 PM ET

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Meaningless victory that will waste a year of the rebuild with 3rd tier talent via a draft pick in the 8-11 range. Right now they are looking at the most likely scenario of picking 7th. They win tomorrow and it gets worse.

Top 3 vs top 6 aren’t as pronounced as previous years, but the drop off starts at 7…and all the talented d-men will be gone.

…and with the Wings lottery luck….add another year to the rebuild…might have a decent team in 24-25 with a chance in 25-26.

 

Posted by d ca on 05/07/21 at 10:05 PM ET

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Who cares if the BJs suck - still fun to watch.

Wait a second…

Posted by TreKronor on 05/07/21 at 10:00 PM ET

I only caught the highlights from awood and I was smiling watching them play.  While it costs the Wings draft position, I think the Wings are done with the lottery BS.  Even if it gets them to move up by a draw of the ball, they’re gonna draft the way they will.

Posted by SYF from impossible and oddly communally possessive sluts on 05/07/21 at 11:46 PM ET

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Even if it gets them to move up by a draw of the ball, they’re gonna draft the way they will

That’s a great point. I’ve actually been critical the last couple years that they didn’t trade down to get the player they picked (who were projected to go a bit later anyways).

Between this draft class having unknowns, the fact the odds are already bad as is, and Yzerman doing his own thing, I’m not going to complain about them winning these dumb games.

Finishing in 15th or 16th though… That’s a bad spot to finish in.

Posted by TreKronor on 05/08/21 at 12:27 AM ET

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I’m not worried about the draft position at this point. The draft has no generational player, and scouting for all teams at formulating their pecking order via talent will be a crap shoot at best.
If by chance the Wings have done an excellent job of scouting, and really have their eye on someone in the top ten, they have ample picks to use to move up in the order.

I am more concerned about drafting another 165 pound winger from Sweden. We have enough Euros coming up the ranks. We need some mean, 6’ 5” defenseman from Western Canada who has a mean streak in him and can clear the front of the net. (Yeah, I know we have Seider, but we need more)

I would like to see more grit and size on this team, to go up against the teams like the Caps in future years. And not Givanni Smith. He can’t skate, stickhandle, pass or score. That pick was a total waste.

Posted by exor54 on 05/08/21 at 07:35 AM ET

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Posted by d ca on 05/07/21 at 10:05 PM ET

ROFL, glad you’re the one in the know that the talent drops off at 7.  No one else, including pro scouts, is aware of this.

A year delay in the rebuild lol.

Posted by RWBill on 05/08/21 at 09:51 AM ET

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The bottom line is that initial draft position is not the main culprit of a lack of talent.

The lottery system is number one. And the amount of teams that moved up despite winning more shows luck is key. Number two is who you actually pick and how they develop, because the best players are not always at the very top.

Think about it - let’s say the Wings were absolutely the worst team ahead of the 2015 draft where McDavid is the prize. They get their usual luck, and drop 2 spots. You can’t tell me they wouldn’t have picked Dylan Strome, the big center man. Either way, you lose out on McDavid and Eichel (that’s good luck, IMO) and get stuck with a good but not great Strome.

Now, with a good GM at 3, you could still come out with: Werenski, Marner, Hanifin, Provorov, Barzal.

Yzerman has dropped the past two years and still ends up with, in some rankings, 2 of the top 3 prospects out there. Without having to tank it and be as embarrassing as the penguins.

Posted by ilovehomers on 05/08/21 at 10:17 AM ET

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Forgot to add rantanen in the 2015 draft. Yzerman “reached” for Seider, so ya can’t tell me it’s not possible. But Holland got stubborn and didn’t want to move out of the way for Stevie.

I’ll add that getting the top guys doesn’t guarantee wins, as the oilers proved. Building a team around those guys is key, as Yzerman did with the TB. How does Boston keep up their system? Their top line were picked at: 25, 45, 71.

And avoiding the busts or good/not great picks at the top is also nice, I.e jack hughes (still has time, but is not the level that we need).

There are so many factors to long term, sustained success. This obsession with balls is a bit ridiculous.

Posted by ilovehomers on 05/08/21 at 10:28 AM ET

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Between this draft class having unknowns, the fact the odds are already bad as is, and Yzerman doing his own thing, I’m not going to complain about them winning these dumb games.

Posted by TreKronor on 05/08/21 at 12:27 AM ET

Ending up with something like the #6-#10 pick may actually be a good thing. Maybe it’ll help Yzerman justify taking Jesper Wallstedt. If the Wings have a top-five pick, he may feel compelled to pick one of the higher rated forwards or defensemen.

I’m thrilled with how Seider has turned out, but is he really going to make as much difference as Spencer Knight would make if Yzerman had taken him instead? I don’t think so.

In this draft, Wallstedt looks like the best goalie available. But if they don’t take him with their own pick, I sure hope they grab Sebastian Cossa with the Caps’ 1st-round pick, even if they have to add a second-rounder to it in order to move up in order to grab him.

Otherwise, the Wings will have to count on Joren Van Pottelberghe developing into a viable NHL goalie (or trade for one at some point in the next couple of years).

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 05/08/21 at 01:57 PM ET

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There are drafts where you definitely want the chance to pick
the top couple talents. But it’s amazing how groupthink and playing it safe can be limiting sometimes, too. The Yakupov-Murray draft wasn’t a great one. But I remember it was like a federal law you had to pick one or the other.
Somewhat similar with Hischier and Patrick, though the former should be a very good player for years. No one has a crystal ball. SY hasn’t gotten every higher pick right. But he seems to surround himself with good people, listens to them and with higher picks at least makes up his own mind, conventional wisdom be damned.
And his track record and judgment seem pretty good, overall.

Posted by lefty.30 on 05/08/21 at 02:02 PM ET

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