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It Appears Jonatan Berggren Will Be Headed To Grand Rapids Next Season

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Good news. Let’s get this guy on NA ice ASAP. While I think he’s a serious long shot to be regular in the NHL next season, hopefully it won’t be too long.

The Wings badly need Veleno and Berggren to exceed expectations. They have far too many picks that have done the opposite.

Posted by evileye on 05/05/21 at 12:05 PM ET

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Good news. Let’s get this guy on NA ice ASAP. While I think he’s a serious long shot to be regular in the NHL next season, hopefully it won’t be too long.

The Wings badly need Veleno and Berggren to exceed expectations. They have far too many picks that have done the opposite.

Posted by evileye on 05/05/21 at 12:05 PM ET

As of right now Berggren’s on the Red Wings reserve list (hasn’t signed his ELC yet and must do so by June 2022). But when he does he will be too old for an ELC slide (he turns 21 in July) so there isn’t the incentive to hold him back as there is for Raymond was for Zadina (slid in 2018-19), Veleno (slid in 19-20),  Jared McIsaac (slid in both 18-19 & 19-20), and Seider (slid in 19-20 and will be slid this year in ‘20-21).

Not being a slide candidate greatly increases his chances to see NHL action. So while I agree, I don’t expect him to break camp with the team. I expect him to see an extended look in March-April of 2022.

As far as too many picks doing the opposite, I think it’s the opposite: fans expecting too much out of picks in the 2nd half of the 1st round. Maybe not right away when they’re drafted—-but not to long into their development. Cases in point:

2009 2nd round #60 (Tatar) with an expectation to succeed Z or Dats.  FYI, Richard Panik was drafted 8 spots ahead of him.

2013 #20 overall (Mantha) with an expectation to be a 1st line power forward.

2014 #15 overall (Larkin) with an expectation to be a 1st line franchise center.

2015#19 overall (Svechnikov) especially after his little brother was drafted.

2016 #20 overall (Dennis Cholowski) especially after he made the team out of camp in 2018.

Now if you want to point to top 10 picks like Rasmussen, Zadina, Seider, and Raymond. That’s a different conversation because of where they were picked. Expectation levels are different for a top pick vs a top 3 expected pick vs a top 10 vs 16-32 pick. But if you look at the success probabilities of draft picks just based on draft position in the 2nd half of the 1st round: the Wings picks are not busting or greatly underachieving vs most of the rest of the league.

So, it’s fans that are expecting too much out of these players and it happens all the time (especially in Toronto)....it’s just now the expectations become that much greater in Detroit because of picking in the top 10 for a while now.

Posted by d ca on 05/05/21 at 04:40 PM ET

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