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Recap Of The Last Few Days For The Detroit Red Wings

from Josn Beneter of the Wings website,

Before last week's 2021 NHL Entry Draft, Steve Yzerman suggested it could be the most unpredictable week in modern hockey history.

After the Detroit Red Wings drafted eight promising prospects and signed several players in free agency, it turns out Detroit's executive vice president and general manager was spot on.

"It's been certainly a wild week in the NHL between trades and then yesterday, players moving teams," Yzerman said after Day 2 of free agency Thursday. "It was probably a little bit more active, a little bit more movement than I anticipated initially. I thought it was entertaining.

"Is it fun? Yeah, it's an incredible challenge. But we all like some form of certainty, and this is the biggest period of uncertainty for us all."

The first two new free agents the Red Wings signed on Wednesday were defenseman and Michigan native Jordan Oesterle and Swiss center Pius Suter. Yzerman said he thinks both players could have a huge impact for Detroit this season.

"He is an offensive-minded, playmaking centerman, which was a real need for our team. I think he filled the need for us," Yzerman said Thursday about the 25-year-old Suter. "He is a skilled guy. He's got good hands. I think he's got good hockey sense. He has some versatility to him as well.

"We had a big hole there in the center position for an offensive-minded playmaker. But certainly watching him eight times last year live over a relatively short period of time gives you a good feel for what their strengths are."

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d ca's avatar

Former Wing made the list of worst deals this free agency period:

Luke Glendening: Hockey Men love this man more than their own children it seems, but every time he’s out there it’s nothing but pain for the Red Wings. The minutes he plays are tough, but they are also disastrous. Over the last three seasons, he has had a 41 percent expected and actual goals rate. Why pay anything above league minimum for that? If every dollar counts in a flat cap world, there shouldn’t be any premium on Glendening.

rated replacement level for the whole length of the deal with a -0.5 wins per season value.

So I guess there was one benefit to the Wings becoming a cap floor team with Cheap Illitch failing to open the pocketbook.

...but the easiest way to sum up free agency seems to apply to the Wings trades….low risks with moderate rewards possible.

Posted by d ca on 07/30/21 at 02:31 PM ET

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I just don’t get the narrative that Ilitch is being cheap - I think Stevie is smartly keeping our cap space maximized in an uncertain time while we build a young core of guys and continue to amass good draft picks.  It makes no sense at all to go out and land a few expensive free agents because we’re not even close in this phase of the rebuild to taking another shot at the cup.  We pay for them now and they’ll be over the hill by the time the young core is ready to go.

Patience, man.

Also - Glendening is a faceoff god and a PK specialist, not a scoring forward.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Somewhere West of Detroit on 07/30/21 at 03:41 PM ET

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Also - I like that Oesterle is from Dearborn Heights.  Love it that we have Michigan guys.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Somewhere West of Detroit on 07/30/21 at 03:42 PM ET

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Ya, both of you are right.  I don’t agree Illitch is suddenly cheap, there just isn’t a point to spend yet. 
But I think as happy as I am with the Suter signing, this is where the wings are in that signing a not-qualified guy is an upgrade for us smile 
Oesterle, I like he’s from michigan, but would have been nice to take a shot at someone with more upside like Ryan Murphy…. but it’s all good.  I’m happy with how things went.

Stephens is interesting for the 4th line.  Was thinking maybe Kase or Donato or Galchenyuk… but overall, Im happy with where things are at.

Posted by DieByTheWing on 07/30/21 at 03:50 PM ET

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I just don’t get the narrative that Ilitch is being cheap
Posted by Hippy Dave from Somewhere West of Detroit on 07/30/21 at 03:41 PM ET

Me neither, I think only d ca is pushing that.

I have yet to see a slew of other teams making cap space for picks prospects trades, nor some miss on a UFA that would have improved this team into the future and not be an albatross when this team’s cup contending window is hopefully open.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerHolland2.0's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 07/30/21 at 04:27 PM ET

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I just don’t get the narrative that Ilitch is being cheap

This is a narrative of 1,forumist

Posted by VPalmer on 07/30/21 at 04:41 PM ET

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Ilitch is not being cheap.  There’s no point holding on to several 30+ year old replacement players when we’re already forced to carry deadweight in Nielsen and what’s left of the contract for Albatross, I mean Abdelkader. 

At least Gagner has some puck possession value and improves our middle six. 

The toxic Holland contracts are working their way through the system.  There’s still some chance we add more talent up front, but even without that the team is much better on paper than it was a year ago.

Posted by captaineclectic on 07/30/21 at 05:11 PM ET

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I think that once the D and G get in a more solid position, the Wings will suddenly be a much more attractive destination for some quality free agents on offense. Right now, it makes no sense for the team or any FA to sign a deal.

Posted by awould on 07/30/21 at 05:22 PM ET

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Right now, it makes no sense for the team or any FA to sign a deal.

And also there were no difference makers UFA forwards who changed teams. All those Wennbergs, Hymans, Granlunds, Saads were all overpaid and some overtermed. And they are no superstars.

Posted by VPalmer on 07/30/21 at 06:11 PM ET

Paul's avatar

At this point, there are no plans for a taxi squad next season.

Also, if a player misses time due to COVID and they are not vaccinated, most likely they won’ be paid.

Also holds true with travel to Canada, players could be denied access to Canada if not vaccinate.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 07/30/21 at 06:12 PM ET

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Well—it makes no sense for a stud like Hamilton or an in-demand veteran like Ryan Suter to sign with us.  For current UFAs that probably means Tatar (unfortunately, as he’d be nice to have back) and Palmieri who will probably sign with the Islanders.

But we did get Pius Suter, whom there was a big market for, because he knows he’s the same age as our core.  He’ll either catch a rising star or simply move on as a UFA while still in his prime.  By that logic, we could probably pitch for Nick Ritchie.

Likewise, we can add guys who’re looking for a 1 year deal to prove themselves and get shopped.  I imagine if we wanted to we could sign Eric Staal or Braydon Coburn or someone like that—but what’s the point?  There might be better options than that on the bargain heap, but the better the player, the more likely it is they see themselves as better of signing with a contender.

Posted by captaineclectic on 07/30/21 at 06:19 PM ET

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Not sure if this is old news, but I know some of you were looking for Keith Petruzelli. 

He id planned to participate in the Bruins development camp next week.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 07/30/21 at 07:52 PM ET

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Keith Petruzelli.

Did he predict we will trade for Ned and draft Cossa?:)

Posted by VPalmer on 07/30/21 at 07:59 PM ET

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He id planned to participate in the Bruins development camp next week.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 07/30/21 at 07:52 PM ET

Even though he played on year in Muskegon in the UHSL, I guess he wants to stay in the MA.  He once played for the Boston Jr. Bruins.

Posted by SYF from impossible and oddly communally possessive sluts on 07/30/21 at 11:41 PM ET

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Not sure if this is old news, but I know some of you were looking for Keith Petruzelli.

He id planned to participate in the Bruins development camp next week.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 07/30/21 at 07:52 PM ET

Did the Wings renounce his draft rights—because I thought they had them until Aug 15, 2021. Meaning he couldn’t contract with another pro team or go to camp with them until that point. As far as I know there are two dates June 1st and Aug 15th to determine when a drafted player must sign by and Petruzelli was an Aug 15th guy.

...as for Cheap Illitch…sorry but he’s cheap…here’s what he accomplished:
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vs what his dad wanted:
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Nobody was out pressuring him to free up funds to sign Dougie Hamilton, but the Wings are currently dead last in cap spending and there were plenty of short-term improvements the team could make especially since they aren’t interested in tanking. That would also mesh with his GM’s view of continuing the “over-ripening” tradition. And if you look at the other organization he owns and subtract the spending of Cabrera that was authorized by daddy….guess what you again see Cheap Illitch.

Anyone debating or blind to the fact both the Wings and Tigers changed the way the organization’s functioned at the top after Mike’s passing—I won’t bother to persuade.

But we’ll know shortly after the Wings open their season as Corey Seager, Carlos Correa, Trevor Story, Javy Baez, Marcus Semien, Brandon Crawford, and Andrelton Simmons are set to hit the market at SS—-weather Cheap Illitch will spend to win or be content as a businessman. Avila cited an ownership directive as lost revenue from a season without fans as a reason for spending lightly last winter. I don’t see that directive being limited to just one of his pro teams and the player expenditures back me up on this fact.

Posted by d ca on 07/31/21 at 12:43 AM ET

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D CA I just don’t think you understand business or the salary cap.

Posted by SevensForTed on 07/31/21 at 08:01 AM ET

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Also - I like that Oesterle is from Dearborn Heights.  Love it that we have Michigan guys.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Somewhere West of Detroit on 07/30/21 at 03:42 PM ET

I’d prefer good players, wherever they’re from.  But that’s just me.

I just don’t get the narrative that Ilitch is being cheap - I think Stevie is smartly keeping our cap space maximized in an uncertain time while we build a young core of guys and continue to amass good draft picks.  It makes no sense at all to go out and land a few expensive free agents because we’re not even close in this phase of the rebuild to taking another shot at the cup.  We pay for them now and they’ll be over the hill by the time the young core is ready to go.

This.

Why start tying up cap space now when you’re not going to win?  Makes zero sense.

Posted by Primis on 07/31/21 at 09:48 AM ET

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As much as Mr. Ilitch has to be recognized for his willingness to pay for talent to compete for championships for both the Wings and Tigers, both of those franchises ended up suffering with long term expensive contracts for aging vets as a result.  Did it just happen to be both GMs thought alike, or that both worked for the same owner?

What and who exactly is it hoped that the Wings would spend more money on?  It would not make sense and be consistent with the build within model they are following.

Posted by RWBill on 07/31/21 at 12:41 PM ET

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There is a Cap floor each team must meet.  I like Steve’s strategy to bring the team to a younger average age.  As well bona fide NHL players still have salaries that appreciate until near retirement,  For the Wings over the next few years, we don’t want any hanger oners, that was Kenny"s style.  Doesn’t allow for spaces for prospects.  We should have a couple forward spots and a D spot each year over the next 5, at that point we should have a core of under 25-35 to challenge for the Cup.  Starting next year and onward playoff experience needs to be gathered, to get to a place like Tampa as an example.

Posted by jhpcarrier97 on 07/31/21 at 02:50 PM ET

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