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Quick Recap- Detroit/Dallas

The Wngs failed to start the game on time and found themselves down 3-0 after 20 minutes.

Dallas basically sat on the lead and won 5-2.

Detroit goals are below.

Team Stats

added 11:48pm, Below, find a mix of media post game.  added11:59pm, Sam Gagner and Jeff Blashill in one video, watch below.

 

 

 

Highlights

 

Blashill

 

 

Gagner and Blashill

 

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I legitimately thought Larkin was out until the third.  That was a rough one.  That Robertson is gonna be good.

Posted by ThatGuy on 04/20/21 at 11:11 PM ET

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Same thing…total mess. One PP, we dumped the puck in…nobody chases !..i saw over 2346 different combinations ! oops sorry i forgot one..its 2347 !
I wish i could say that Blashill has nothing to do with this..but i can’t No game plan, no strategy, no nothing.
And at the start we were not ready. Just a few good minutes in the second and that’s it (maybe the Stars took their foot off the throttle)
Individually i like Vrana. He reminds me of Dats when it comes to pickpocketing. Although wish he wouldnt play right now. I just don’t want him to get the Blashill “how to play the game wrong” syndrome..
I’m glad Larks finally got one. He works hard but how can he be successful when he never knows with whom he is going to play. How about Glen-Larks-Panik line !! How about Namets-Pak-fIL lines !! i saw that…no way to win with you do that.<

Posted by PierreC from Montreal, Canada on 04/20/21 at 11:16 PM ET

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Another game where no comment would be necessary. gulp

Posted by bigfrog on 04/20/21 at 11:23 PM ET

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Good job by continuing playing hard and not getting embarrassed after a terrible start.

Posted by VPalmer on 04/20/21 at 11:25 PM ET

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Post game media added to the post.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 04/20/21 at 11:50 PM ET

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Good job by continuing playing hard and not getting embarrassed after a terrible start.

Posted by VPalmer on 04/20/21 at 11:25 PM ET

Nahp, that was still pretty embarrassing from start to finish. If anything, Dallas let up after Bernie was pulled.

A couple of things:
- Get DeKeyser out of the lineup. He’s done. He can skate in a straight line and his head is there, but he can’t adjust to anything to which he hasn’t already committed. This is coming from a guy who thought DK was going to be the rock of the next generation;
- Along the same line, keep this defensive lineup (Cholo, Hronek, Stretcher, Staal, Lindstrom), insert Seider, and make Biega #7; there is absolutely no reason to play 11/7 at this point barring an absolute last-minute injury (Svech, Smith, Hirose, literally ANYONE);
- I actually like the all-white Stars jerseys;

** I love The Captain just as much as the other 18 of you, but if he’s directing this to be a “tank” season, *#$%@& him. Draft picks aren’t guaranteed, but a team that is remotely watchable and keeps people coming back is. Your job is, to not only win a Stanley Cup (because let’s face it, not many people care), but to enable a watchable on-ice product.

In my completely irrelevant opinion, the players are there; they just have absolutely zero idea what to do or where to go.

Posted by RedMenace from Fuck HFBoards on 04/21/21 at 12:21 AM ET

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This next game is an important one for the Red Wings IMO. I get crapping the bed there, back to back, really high end opponent, sitting in a hotel room all night, ec. etc.  but they return to Detroit, sleep in their own beds after taking 2 lumps, need to see a good effort.

Lindstrom and Cholo both making rookie mistakes that directly led to goals.

Evgeny, unless the injury is lingering, can’t stay in the lineup over Gagner Filpulla and Biega, I wonder if Yzerman decides to not even qualify him.

A vet in Panik steps up and craps the bed himself.

Larkin out there frustrated, taking penalties, fighting, at least he finally put a puck in the net.

I don’t think Ram is at a point where you can count on him consistently as your #2 center. He’s working his way there, some nights yes, some nights no, but not every night yet, at least where he outplays his counterpart.

I can see why Washington had no issue trading Vrana, if he has an easy lane to get his feet going, he’s good, but when he doesn’t, he’s not gonna get dirty to carry, he defers, he also presses the offense making low chance plays, when we have full possession.  That’s fine on our team, that’s not what you want on a contending team.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerHolland2.0's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 04/21/21 at 08:01 AM ET

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Murray

I am not sure i blame Cholo for that second goal. Maybe he could of been more physical to not allow that pass but he had the guy covered well. Hronek and the forward allowed the late man in for that goal.

Stall and Hronek both with.rough games. Stall had two costly turnovers. Hronek is not at the same level as last year. Hopefully the team makes all these guys rest instead of playing somewhere else in the off-season.

The forwards were not fore/back checking at all to support the D. 


Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 04/21/21 at 11:56 AM ET

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Hronek isn’t up to the level, where he can carry a partner like Cholo.
But, he looks pretty good when paired with Stall. Unfortunately our coach prefers two weak defensive pairs instead of one strong.

Posted by wings8 on 04/21/21 at 12:31 PM ET

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I am not sure i blame Cholo for that second goal. Maybe he could of been more physical to not allow that pass but he had the guy covered well. Hronek and the forward allowed the late man in for that goal.
Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 04/21/21 at 11:56 AM ET

Disagree, Hronek didn’t help for sure, but goals are not scored from under the goal line.  I got my old film coaching juices flowing last night, and watched it a few times, Cholo made 2 subtle but critical mistakes a Dman at the NHL Level (best in the world) should not make, its that little oopsie that elite players exploit.

1) Cholo went chasing a Star who had complete puck control under the line before his partner was recovered at least between the dots. He can’t do that, he’s got to stay in the passing lane until that is reasonably covered, before he chases a puck that is not in danger.

2) Cholo played him on the board side of his @$$, which allowed him to puck protect and drive towards our net.  If he’s going to step and play him there he needs to stop him from moving towards or behind our net, and force him up the boards,

3) To make the above worse, he played him on his backhand, which gave him the option to turn out on his forehand and make a clean pass.

 

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerHolland2.0's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 04/21/21 at 02:03 PM ET

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I am not sure i blame Cholo for that second goal. Maybe he could of been more physical to not allow that pass but he had the guy covered well. Hronek and the forward allowed the late man in for that goal.

Cholo’s coverage behind the net was weak. Maybe we can’t blame 100% but that’s exactly where Cholo has to work, his ability to take the man one on one. He had to play more physical on that player, too easy for him to deliver the pass in front.

Posted by PierreC from Montreal, Canada on 04/21/21 at 03:24 PM ET

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I like your points Murray and I do not totally disagree but I am with Pierre on this one. I played D all my life (not very well, lol) i think Cholo did the correct thing but he was not physical or assertive enough. I would love to show him that clip a few times and show him how Nick Lidstrom, Vladdy and Chelios would handle a similar situation. Cholo Ski did not have a giveaway last night and has only a few since being recalled. I think Larkin and Hronek lead the team last i looked. But I love your points. You made me watch that thing few times over. Not saying you are wrong, we see it differently. . Great stuff

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 04/21/21 at 06:47 PM ET

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