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from Ansar Khan of Mlive,

“I think it’s a great opportunity for all these kids to come in with Detroit and learn not only our staff in Grand Rapids -- and some of these kids will be in Grand Rapids -- but learn what the pro daily routine is, the gameday routine, how you do meetings, how you practice, in between periods, postgame,” Griffins coach Ben Simon, who coached the prospects, said. “Playing three games in four nights gets you in game shape and ready for training camp so that maybe these kids have a little leg up on Day One.”

Simon shared his impressions of several prospects:

Sebastian Cossa, goaltender: “He played extremely well here. … You can see that he’s ready, he’s hungry, and let’s see what happens in camp. … I always defer to the goalie gurus we have, but I thought he played the puck pretty well (Monday), not that that was a perceived deficiency, but it was noticeable that he was competent coming out and playing the puck.”

Simon Edvinsson, defenseman: “I think you can see the poise he has with the puck, his play recognition for the most part is elite. He’s going to be a really good player for a really long time. He’s still very young, though, that’s important to understand. Some of these kids that come in here, there’s all this hype and expectation, sometimes it just doesn’t happen overnight. He will make rookie mistakes. Veterans have made rookie mistakes. But he does a lot of little things well for a younger player and has the confidence that bodes well for his future.”

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from Tony Ferrari of The Hockey News,

It feels as if Filip Zadina has been in the NHL for so, so long.

Deemed a bust by so many in hockey, Zadina will turn just 23 in the upcoming season. While he hasn’t burst onto the scene as we have become accustomed to in recent years, Zadina has provided value away from the scoresheet that isn’t as easily identified.

Recently signed to a three-year contract worth $1.825 million per season, Zadina is very evidently talented when watching his game in isolation. That presents many questions about his game – starting with who is Zadina now that he’s locked in as a piece of the Red Wings’ rebuilding squad?

Zadina is a good skater who effectively uses his agility and puck skills in transition. Aside from captain Dylan Larkin, Zadina entered the offensive zone with control more than any other Red Wing last season. His zone transition numbers across the board are among the best on Detroit’s roster which indicates that the skill and pace of his game that he was drafted for aren’t quite as absent as many assume based on his counting stats.

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Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 09/20/22 at 08:25 AM ET

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Watching Simon Edvinsson live, he was the best player on the ice, whenever he was on it, maybe sans Johnson of CBJ, who was dangerous and danced through Sebrango like a plylon.  But Simon also played very loose and gambled quite a bit, and while he had zero issue laying front net lumber, he was not as physical cutting off corner lanes. 

Now in a tournament like that, he could do that, it works, in the AHL maybe, but if that’s what he brings to the NHL well many pucks go in your net.  The unknown is whether he gambled knowing the low level of threat around him? Will he play and be different with pro talent around him and opposing him?

I don’t know, but I do know Yzerman and crew were watching, and don’t we all tend to work our level best when the boss is around? I think he might start the year in the AHL and not in Detroit to make sure responsible defensive hockey earns him the roster spot not shear talent, but he could also make that roster on talent alone, he is not Seider to be clear, but he is very good.

Outside of him…

Johansson looked good.
Cross looked good,
Cossa was better this year, still not ready for the A IMO, but I’m also not a goalie guy
And Elmer was great, dude’s a tower and he skates pretty well but has a great set of hands. He knows how to use his wingspan, very interested to see that in a preseason game where there’s 5 pro’s on the ice. But he’s a unit in front, and has very good inside the body hands, and controls wide with very good puck protection when he pivots, he could really be something if he develops further, he’s a lock for the AHL, I don’t see him going back overseas.

 

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Window Seat on the Captain's Ship on 09/20/22 at 11:31 PM ET

MurrayChadwick's avatar

Oh and Lombardi and Piercey, great stories, I love both stories right, local kids get a shot, and nail the interview, NICE!  They really did, and they should earn AHL jobs if they continue what they did in the tourney, especially Piercey who will fight, the AHL needs some of that side show.

That said, I see some folks getting carried away, and sorry but I don’t see NHL talent in either guy IMO.  They both over and underplayed a lot of shifts, just were not in the right lanes, Lombardi lost the handle on a few pucks that frankly NHL talent like an Elmer or Cross would catch with ease, and they were critical TOs.  Piercey was often on the wrong side of board battles, trying to too physical he never led with his stick, and that’s a second to slow against pro talent.

Some of that you can develop, but IMO they don’t have the NHL vision and hands combo that even margin prospects like Tyutayev who clearly has talent, I’m not sure its enough to get him to the bigs, but its talent that Lombardi and Piercey don’t have despite their work ethic and size/speed.

I can see both carving out a nice AHL career with some spot callups, but they’re not NHL’ers IMO, but most didn’t think Glenny was so you never know.  Either way, 3 months ago, they were not on an AHL radar, they are now, like I said, they nailed their interviews.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Window Seat on the Captain's Ship on 09/20/22 at 11:40 PM ET

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