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Bad Road Trip

from Kevin Allen of Detroit Hockey Now,

The Detroit Red Wings finished a horrible road trip by losing a 2-1 overtime decision to the Arizona Coyotes. The Coyotes have the NHL’s worst record.

Disastrous Trip
The Detroit Red Wings came into the road trip with optimism and came out of it with a realization that they have a long way to go before they figure out how to win consistently.

They couldn’t grow, or hold, a 1-0 lead against the NHL’s last-place team. This is a team that is averaging 1.68 goals per game. The Red Wings allowed the Coyotes to tie the game on a third-period goal and win in overtime on Clayton Keller’s goal.

They were 0-3-1 on this road trip. They were outscored 17-8. The Red Wings are now 3-7-1 on the road this season.

“We’ve got to find a way to play some good hockey before Christmas,” Red Wings captain Dylan Larkin said.


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from Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press,

The Detroit Red Wings opted to stay on the road one more night rather than endure a red-eye flight, but there’s no doubt they need the respite of coming home.

They capped an unsuccessful trip with an overtime loss to the worst team in the NHL, falling 2-1 to the Arizona Coyotes on Saturday. The Wings don’t play again until Wednesday, and that three-day break is welcome after playing 11 times in 19 days, including two sets of back-to-backs.

“We’ve played a ton of hockey,” said captain Dylan Larkin after the game at Gila River Arena. “We’ve really grinded, and you know what, it hasn’t been going our way but there’s a lot to look back on this stretch. We’ve played some good hockey, especially at home. The schedule till Christmas is a lot less games, so we have to find a way to play some good hockey before Christmas.”


Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 11/21/21 at 08:23 AM ET

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for Max Bultman of The Athletic,

Even if the Red Wings were never likely to be a playoff team, that all could be enough to take meaningful strides in the franchise’s broader trajectory.

But for the purposes of the next 62 games — more than all of last season contained — all of that is as good as prologue if it doesn’t also lead to a team taking the needed steps to learn to win on the road (where Detroit is now 3-7-1) or close out late leads against a team like Arizona.

In past seasons, the Red Wings were on the other end of that sentence — a team to whom losing could be a borderline cause for concern. Their early-season showing earned them the right to shed that reputation, though — with Capitals coach Peter Laviolette calling them “dangerous” offensively and “tight” defensively.

That’s who Detroit wants to be, and who at some point they can be.

In order to believe that’s who these Red Wings are now, though, they have to be able to be both of those things at the same time. And Saturday was the latest indicator they’re not there yet.

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Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 11/21/21 at 08:33 AM ET


Anyone who thought would be an easy process is dreaming.
Now that we have more talent and potential its even more painful. We will get there and it will be sweet!

Posted by pnwwing on 11/21/21 at 12:56 PM ET


wings are a playoff team, imo, if, they start on time, every time, and play a hard, consistent 60 minutes.

changes are imminent.

Posted by rickytarr on 11/21/21 at 01:42 PM ET


Easy?  Past 5 years have been bad and worse the next.  With the two leading Calder candidates,  Bert and Larkin along with hronek and leddy, we should be able to score on bottom feeders.  There’s a fundamental issue with the team and it’s not talent.  We’ve got good leaders in the dressing room, good guys. 

We just rotate through excuses now.  We’re banged up, we played a ton, Yada yadda, like we’re the only team that deals with these things.  Montreal caught a red eye and pulled our pants down.  Come on.

Posted by ThatGuy on 11/21/21 at 02:53 PM ET


It’ll be fascinating to see how SY continues to reshape the roster,
based on who performs and who doesn’t.

Rasmussen is so underwhelming to me.
Maybe it’s a higher bar due to his size.
But seeing him get flattened by Ben Hutton of all people
seemed to exemplify how small he often plays. He should be
doing the flattening. Where are the points or at least chances?
Where are the hands, the playmaking around the net.
Some big guys just don’t have that naturally physical game.
Without intensity and that physical game, plus skating, vision, or skill, I’m not sure what his upside really is. Adam Lowry is an excellent physical third line center on the playoff team. Rasmussen doesn’t have to be exactly that type of player.
But I’m not seeing the checking or the offensive chances.

Zadina of course is another ongoing sort of slow and steady project.
SY must like Smith’s potential to have protected him, but the recent media coverage and comments from Blashill speak for themselves.

It remains startling as some have said how much more impactful SY’s top picks have been than Holland’s final ones. SY is patient big picture, but as we’ve seen when he makes his mind up about a player, he makes big moves with no leaks to tip anyone off.

Posted by lefty.30 on 11/21/21 at 03:10 PM ET

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A Friend just sent me this St James/Blashill Q and A after the loss to Vegas knowing i do not ever watch them. It got a little testy.
2:20 mark


Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 11/21/21 at 05:32 PM ET

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Sorry, loss to capitials

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 11/21/21 at 05:35 PM ET


Damn DD.  Chink in his armor eh?  Didn’t like the implication that inability to score has been an ongoing issue.  She just asked how to empart offense onto the players.  Not shooting enough.

Posted by ThatGuy on 11/21/21 at 05:47 PM ET

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Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 11/21/21 at 05:32 PM ET

Oh yeah, he was annoyed with the next question, too. And it hasn’t gotten better since then, either. He got up and left in a hurry, too.

Posted by ilovehomers on 11/21/21 at 06:43 PM ET

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You are spot on.

If HSJ is pushing buttons, then i suspect the pressure really is building. That is not her M.O. She is pretty quiet for the most part. And she handle Blashill’s tantrum well. I am actually proud of her for pushing him and then tactfully changing the subject. These beat writers have been easy on him for a long time, I am glad someone has the balls to ask the tough questions.

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 11/21/21 at 06:50 PM ET

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Really? We’re going to defend HSJ now? She repeatedly asks the most inane questions of that beat writer group (and that’s saying something). I’m surprised he doesn’t get this annoyed with her more often.

Her first question: “What needs to happen on the powerplay for guys to have that mentality to just shoot the puck instead of making so many passes?”

It sounds like she’s getting question advice from the drunk fans yelling “SHOOOOT” all night. Jeff gives a far more thorough answer than this deserves.

Second question: “Sorry, but this isn’t an isolated situation tonight…how do you impress that upon the players?” When pressed to give specifics, she says “Well, just shooting the puck more…”  rolleyes  A coach like Torts would eat her alive.

Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids on 11/23/21 at 09:13 AM ET

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