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With Tomas Tatar Signed What Happens Next?

from Craig Custance of The Athletic,

According to CapFriendly.com, the Red Wings are $3 million over the salary cap with Tatar signed. They’ll eventually place Johan Franzen on long-term injured reserve, which will wipe that out and add an additional $900,000 or so in flexibility. That’s not going to be enough to get restricted free agent Andreas Athanasiou signed.

He is on deck for a contract.

“Nothing imminent,” texted one source close to Athanasiou on Friday night.

That the Red Wings are so squeezed against the cap would leave them vulnerable to an offer sheet on Athanasiou, if that sort of thing ever actually happened in the NHL. The reality is, if an offer sheet is going to happen, the best candidate is in Nashville where Ryan Johansen sits as a 24-year-old restricted free agent center, but that’s a debate for another day.

The other interesting thing is that the conversations continue between the Thomas Vanek camp and the Red Wings. That he hasn’t signed anywhere yet is an indication that he’s willing to wait this out a little and see how things play out in Detroit, although one source close to Vanek said there a “couple things” in play with him.

The Red Wings aren’t going to buy anyone out, so that leaves only a salary-clearing trade as a possibility if salary needs to be cleared.

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Bugsy's avatar

For what it’s worth, the league opinion per the article is favorable about the contract, not just Custance’s opinion.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/22/17 at 09:39 AM ET

ilovehomers's avatar

You pay Vegas to take a bad contract off of you in the expansion draft, preferably Helm/Ericsson so you can play Nosek/XO while saving ~ 3 million. They can pay AA and have some cap room to boot. Minimal, but yeah.

Wait a minute….

Posted by ilovehomers on 07/22/17 at 09:49 AM ET

Paul's avatar

Custance says no and I agree with him dd.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 07/22/17 at 10:40 AM ET


They could probably move a defenseman.  The market seems to be there for them, even not so good ones (see New York’s overpay for Smith).  We’ve got 8 under contract not counting Witkowski.

Posted by BarryKlob on 07/22/17 at 10:59 AM ET

ilovehomers's avatar

Craig Custance @CraigCustance

Tatar trade protection a bit of a moving target. RFA year has no protection per CBA. Full no-trade YR2, most of 3. Partial in year 4.

Posted by ilovehomers on 07/22/17 at 11:10 AM ET

PDXWing's avatar

DD - Tatar has a full NMC in year 2, most of year 3, and a limited NMC in 4. The partial aspects aren’t disclosed yet. Sounds like reasonable flexibility for both Tatar and the Wings was built into the contract.

Posted by PDXWing on 07/22/17 at 11:11 AM ET

Hootinani's avatar

Plus I haven’t read if Holland gave Tatar a no movement clause, so that is good also

I believe there is a ntc in the 2nd and 3rd year, not sure about remainder.

Posted by Hootinani on 07/22/17 at 11:12 AM ET

Hippy Dave's avatar

Any chance the Wings could place Kronwall on LTIR?

Posted by Hippy Dave from Somewhere West of Detroit on 07/22/17 at 11:30 AM ET


Trying to make the team better by wasteing all the cap space you would need to resign prospects, nice move. If you’re trying to say this was an oversight, save it, this was orchestrated because you didn’t want to get rid of AA and possibly piss off the fan base going into a new stadium. If you blunder this signing you won’t see this happy ass in your stadium or watch the same terrible game strategy on TV to keep your ratings up.  I am a fan and the only redeeming positive is the play of our prospects.

Posted by stateofmifan on 07/22/17 at 02:39 PM ET


The bold move might be to trade Green now, if there is a partner who can take on his salary and give back picks/prospects.

But they may have a better understanding of whether or not Kronwall starts the season on LTIR.

Holland flubbed an opportunity to alleviate some of this cap mess by getting Vegas to a higher salaried player. I know he didn’t want to surrender picks but it would have made things a whole lot simpler.

It’s frustrating to see Holland continually play so tight with the cap. It leaves the team so little flexibility.

Posted by evileye on 07/24/17 at 09:29 AM ET

Colin's avatar

The bold move might be to trade Green now, if there is a partner who can take on his salary and give back picks/prospects.

Bold yes, but Green will get a higher return at the deadline.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 07/24/17 at 10:39 AM ET

Nathan's avatar

They have a lot of options for handling the money, they just need to be willing to actually choose one of them.

If I had to guess, they are assure Kronwall isn’t ready and are hoping to start the year with him in LTIR. It’s the Ken Holland way—hide your mismanagement on LTIR and put off having to pay up for it.

Posted by Nathan from wasting perfect passes from my teammates on 07/24/17 at 01:30 PM ET

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