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Wings Recall Tomas Jurco

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Definitely need his help now that Franzen’s return is becoming a serious issue.

Own it, Tomas.

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 01/14/14 at 04:55 PM ET

Paul's avatar

Tatar will be missing the game on Thursday, so this makes sense at this point.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 01/14/14 at 04:56 PM ET

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Can this be taken as a sign they aren’t keen on Ferraro?

If so, trade him Kenny.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 01/14/14 at 04:59 PM ET

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So, on a related note…
The Wings should have gotten a bout $1M in salary off the books for the year with Z being LTIR’d for month, should get probably close to $2M with Weiss. They should be able to get a million for Dats if he is put on IR, and maybe close to that for Franzen. I guess the question is, is there any reason for them to put people on the IR other than for roster limitations? Seems to me that if they counted everyone on IR that could/should have been, they should have several million in salary available at the trade deadline. Again, this only makes a difference if they have a roster spot to add someone (they should if they make a trade).

Posted by teldar on 01/14/14 at 05:09 PM ET

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Franzen does begin to sound like a long term injury.  Too bad cause I liked how he, Z, and Nike were taking shape. I wish they could/would let Jurco stick for a while.

Posted by MoreShoot on 01/14/14 at 05:52 PM ET

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Can this be taken as a sign they aren’t keen on Ferraro?

If so, trade him Kenny.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 01/14/14 at 03:59 PM ET

I don’t know if the Detroit management considers Ferraro a likely top six winger candidate at this point. They already know Jurco can score, and it’s getting to the point in the season where they can’t just try out players. They need the points, injuries or not.

Posted by EDJ on 01/14/14 at 05:53 PM ET

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Can this be taken as a sign they aren’t keen on Ferraro?

Or Jarnkrok?

Posted by MoreShoot on 01/14/14 at 05:56 PM ET

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Can this be taken as a sign they aren’t keen on Ferraro?

Or Jarnkrok?

Posted by MoreShoot on 01/14/14 at 04:56 PM ET

I think Jarnkrok isn’t physically ready for the NHL, and he’s a center and they’re looking for wingers.

Posted by EDJ on 01/14/14 at 06:03 PM ET

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“Yeah, well the Jurc store called, and they’re out of you!”

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 01/14/14 at 06:33 PM ET

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The team thinks really highly of Jarnkrok - its more a case of them not wanting Elite League success to fool them into thinking he’s NHL-ready (read: sized) yet. He’s still a centrepiece prospect though.

Posted by BrendonR on 01/14/14 at 08:51 PM ET

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The team thinks really highly of Jarnkrok - its more a case of them not wanting Elite League success to fool them into thinking he’s NHL-ready (read: sized) yet. He’s still a centrepiece prospect though.

Z turned SEL success directly to the NHL. I think they expect Backman to as well, don’t they?

Posted by MoreShoot on 01/14/14 at 10:05 PM ET

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The Wings should have gotten a bout $1M in salary off the books for the year with Z being LTIR’d for month,

That’s not how LTIR works.  All LTIR allows a team to do is to exceed the cap by up to the full amount of the LTIR’d contract in order to replace said LTIR’d player.

For instance, if a team was hypothetically 7 mil under the cap and they LTIR’d a guy making 2 million… it’s not like they could go out and get a 9 million dollar player.  For that hypothetical team LTIR wouldn’t have any real impact on their cap.

So, if a team was under the cap by a mil and they LTIR’d a guy who was making 4 mil, over the duration of that injury they could exceed the cap by 3 million bucks to replace him.

Given Detroit’s incessant injuries this year I can’t imagine how complicated tracking where Detroit really is with regards to their cap space and LTIR status is for the front office.

Z turned SEL success directly to the NHL. I think they expect Backman to as well, don’t they?

Speaking broadly, the SEL and the Russian/KHL are way closer to NHL hockey than the AHL is.  When Z and Pavel did what they did overseas its not like going down a class would help them.  Jarnkrok wasn’t quite as successful, which is likely why he was brought to NA first.

Backman’s an interesting prospect because for defensemen playing on the bigger ice can be a tough transition to the more consistently physical NHL Given Detroit’s blueline I’d think he could come over next year and be the de facto #4 out of camp fairly easily, though, which may be the overriding concern given the lack of any other NHL ready dmen in the system.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 01/14/14 at 10:36 PM ET

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Folks be careful being excited about Jurko being called up someone might misconstrue it into him being the team savior and capable of scoring 100 points per season.

Dayts sure was tearing it up in a KHL 15 years ago. What did he have 26 points in 45 games? And that stellar season of four whole points the year before.

Given Detroit’s incessant injuries this year

I should make this a drinking game.

I’d think he could come over next year and be the de facto #4

Based on your argument above while actually comparing him to and actual red wing who played defense in the SEL and is actually the teams best defenseman right now, Backman should spend two years I the AHL.

Posted by howeandhowe on 01/14/14 at 11:10 PM ET

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I should make this a drinking game.

Would it make his assertion any less true?

Based on your argument above while actually comparing him to and actual red wing who played defense in the SEL and is actually the teams best defenseman right now, Backman should spend two years I the AHL.

Good thing you totally and completely understood his point.

Totally.

AND completely.

Posted by Garth on 01/14/14 at 11:55 PM ET

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I think Ferraro’s stock fell dramatically, really through no fault of his own, due to the rough knee problems he has been dealing with since his first season after the Wings drafted him. In all the rankings it seems he’s been able to work really hard in GR and bring his stock back up a little bit, but now he looks a lot more like a long-term third or fourth line checking forward instead of a second or third line offensive guy. He’s also just buried on the depth chart since the Wings were able to stock young high-skill offensive guys… Jarnkrok, Jurco, Sheahan, Pulkkinen, Mantha… those are just the guys that are pretty obviously more likely to take over top skill positions in the coming years.

At this point, what’s the point in trading him? He’s been a solid player for the Griffs and the Wings do have a nice track record turning players with similar backgrounds into good all-around contributors that can be plugged-and-played (thinking Cleary, Eaves, Emmerton, Miller, Glendening, and even Helm to an extent). What would he really be worth in a trade? I can’t imagine they’d even be able to get a third or fourth round pick for him, and he was an early 2nd round pick. I think he’s worth more to the Wings at this stage than he would be to any other team… might as well ride it out and see what he can become.

Only way it makes sense to trade him is if you get a real one-for-one “change of scenery” hockey trade. Off the top of my head, I’m thinking of a guy like Linus Omark, recently traded to Buffalo… seems to have lots of skill but has also had a hard time meshing with his teams and/or the North American game (but how easy would it be when you are dealing with Edmonton and now Buffalo coaching and management). If a trade for a player like that came up, that’s be an idea…

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 01/15/14 at 10:01 AM ET

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Would it make his assertion any less true?

Certainly not. It’s very true. It comes up every day as if no one knows about it. Thus, it makes a good drinking game.

Posted by howeandhowe on 01/15/14 at 02:31 PM ET

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