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Wings “Can Play With Anybody…”

from Ansar Khan of Mlive,

"I think we can play with anybody at any time," Blashill said. "I think we'll walk out of here having out-chanced them. We got to make sure we don't give up easy goals."

Lightning coach Jon Cooper, Blashill's close friend, then walked by the interview room and knocked on the window.

"You can do that when you're in first place," Blashill said.

"We got to make sure we make other teams earn (goals). We can beat anybody in the league. I know that 100 percent. We got to keep going here."

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Yes Blash. You are right. We can beat anybody, when we play a perfect game. 30 other teams can make that same claim. So what? You want a gold star for that?

Good teams find ways to routinely win even when they don’t play perfectly. Like the way we used to. Here’s a stat…after 41 games we have 14 wins in regulation. That’s it. Good for 28th in the NHL. So we’re on pace for 28. Tampa already has that. So Tampa could FAIL to win in regulation for the rest of the season and we’d be tied with them.

That’s how far away we are from being a great team!!!

Posted by fatsavage on 01/08/18 at 10:04 AM ET

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I’m a subscriber to the theory of philosophy that states the universe contains absolutes. Clearly blash is not. Dude, what you think and what actually is are two different things. It doesn’t matter if you think you can win the Stanley cup every year, reality quickly reminds you, you’re incorrect. Your “truth” sucks. Grow up

Posted by Iamhaljordan on 01/08/18 at 10:08 AM ET

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For all we know, Blashill may be in the same boat as most if not all of us - the team isn’t good enough. If he was a better coach, could he be getting more out of this team? I think so. But could anyone make this team a playoff contender? eh…....

But what else is Blash supposed to say? We aren’t good enough? Get real.

Posted by ilovehomers on 01/08/18 at 10:11 AM ET

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“I think we can play with anybody at any time,” Blashill said

Ummm..yeah, your an NHL team, that’s the way hockey works, in other news water is wet.

But what else is Blash supposed to say? We aren’t good enough? Get real.

Posted by ilovehomers on 01/08/18 at 09:11 AM ET

You know these boys take anything said in the media to heart when it suits their narrative.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 10:32 AM ET

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To homers, forgive me if I’m misremembering, but I don’t recall Bowman or Babcock saying to the media “I think we can beat anyone” after losing 5-2. Maybe I’m wrong here, my problem is for 3 season all I’ve heard from both Holland and blashill is how we’re “right there” we aren’t, and everyone but those two guys seem to know it.

Posted by Iamhaljordan on 01/08/18 at 10:55 AM ET

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I’d have more respect for Blashill if he said something like the following:

-we weren’t good enough tonight
-we had two 5-on-3’s and didn’t produce. Some of that is on the coaching staff for poor usage or poor schemes. Some of that is on the players for poor execution.
-but when you lose 5-2 you’re not really close
-the truth is, this season is very quickly slipping away. Obviously mathematically we’re still in it. But the reality is starting to set in here. But these guys better show up tomorrow and give 100%. Play for pride. Because jobs are on the line. That’s right. How these players perform over the next 41 games will determine who has a job next year. (sadly, you also need a GM that shares this view…and we know Kenny would never waive or buyout one of his pals)

But to trot out the same BS about being real close, it’s a fine-line league, we can go on a run here, blah, blah. Only the most naive fans buy that.

Posted by fatsavage on 01/08/18 at 11:05 AM ET

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Posted by Iamhaljordan on 01/08/18 at 09:55 AM ET

No, but Babcock has said that we should have won this game or that game. These things happen. How hard is it to really understand what Blashill was trying to say.
“Hey guys, we are an average team at best and we hung right there with the best team in hockey right now”. That’s the point he was trying to make.
Wings outplayed Tampa for stretches of the game. A couple bad bounces and 50/50 calls not going their way and boom, game is over.
But as the saying goes, you have to be good to be lucky and lucky to be good, and that’s the story here.
Wings in their hey-day had a lots of bounces going their way as well.

And I do agree with the assessment that this team is way better than it was last year, even if the record does not show it and coaching has a lot to do with it.

Posted by George0211 on 01/08/18 at 11:08 AM ET

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-we weren’t good enough tonight

He has said that many times when it was appropriate.

-we had two 5-on-3’s and didn’t produce. Some of that is on the coaching staff for poor usage or poor schemes. Some of that is on the players for poor execution.

See above

-but when you lose 5-2 you’re not really close

Did you start watching hockey yesterday?

Posted by George0211 on 01/08/18 at 11:10 AM ET

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Posted by Iamhaljordan on 01/08/18 at 09:55 AM ET

You wrong that Blashill said we can beat anyone, the quote right up there in the story, is “I think we can play with anybody at any time,”  Play and beat are much different.

I would also say that the sport is hockey, there are 82 games in a season, the very best teams in the NHL do not go 82, and the worst teams do win games.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 11:19 AM ET

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I’d love for Blashill to blast the team, himself, and management like we do here. See how far that gets him and how motivating that is for players.

To think that Blashill hasn’t critiqued the team before is hilarious. There is a time and a place. And berating this team for losing to the top team in the NHL after they were coming off a loss (back to back with travel we should be able to take advantage, but still).

The Wings out shot and out chanced the Lightning, still played pretty sloppily in their own end.

But if we’re going to say Howie got beat by a more talented goalie, what does that say about Mrazek getting beat by a 3rd stringer Louie Domingue, who has already been on waivers this year?

Posted by ilovehomers on 01/08/18 at 11:28 AM ET

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You wrong that Blashill said we can beat anyone, the quote right up there in the story, is “I think we can play with anybody at any time,”  Play and beat are much different.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 10:19 AM ET

Awesome. So the bar went from being Cup contenders…to just making the playoffs…to being in the mix…to playing meaningful games in March…and now to being able to “play” with anyone.

So a top team like Tampa can come in after playing the night before, sleepwalk through the first period, turn it on for 20 minutes, and earn an easy 5-2 victory. But our organization takes consolation that we “played” with them. #less-is-more

Posted by fatsavage on 01/08/18 at 11:29 AM ET

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But if we’re going to say Howie got beat by a more talented goalie, what does that say about Mrazek getting beat by a 3rd stringer Louie Domingue, who has already been on waivers this year?

Posted by ilovehomers on 01/08/18 at 10:28 AM ET

but but but its Mrazek, and he’s younger…

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 11:33 AM ET

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but but but its Mrazek, and he’s younger…

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 10:33 AM ET

No, it’s all Blashill’s fault for sitting him because if he had a chance, well you know the rest.

Posted by George0211 on 01/08/18 at 11:35 AM ET

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So yes, let’s let Blashill rip into his players. But NOT the young kids. They are fragile.

Posted by ilovehomers on 01/08/18 at 11:39 AM ET

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Playing with anybody is not the same as beating them.  You can blame Mrazek if you want, but I saw an abundance of opportunities that the Wings could not close on against a team that looked dog tired.

Posted by duhduhduh on 01/08/18 at 12:17 PM ET

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But if we’re going to say Howie got beat by a more talented goalie, what does that say about Mrazek getting beat by a 3rd stringer Louie Domingue, who has already been on waivers this year?

TBL had better quality chances and better players to finish them. Vasilevskiy gave up 6 goals in Ottawa. I guess he’s a bum too. And we’re going to judge Domingue on his play with the Coyotes? Give me a break. That kid is still a good prospect.

Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids on 01/08/18 at 12:25 PM ET

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Playing with anybody is not the same as beating them.  You can blame Mrazek if you want, but I saw an abundance of opportunities that the Wings could not close on against a team that looked dog tired.

Posted by MoreShoot on 01/08/18 at 11:17 AM ET

Agreed. But for others it’s easier to:

#blame Mrazek
#blame AA
#take consolation that we can “play” with anybody

Posted by fatsavage on 01/08/18 at 12:25 PM ET

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I think we can play with anybody at any time.

Yeah, except actually good teams.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 01/08/18 at 12:38 PM ET

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And on Mrazek, are you seriously blaming him? Let’s recap:

Goal 1 was an excellent seam pass that was tipped perfectly by Girardi to high blocker across the ice.

Goal 2 Mrazek had no chance on whatsoever, though you could argue he overcommitted quite a bit.

I don’t know how Goal 3 isn’t interference.

Goal 4 Mrazek had very little if any chance on. Nielsen coughs up a clean win to one of the best players in the league right in the slot. Even the studio guys called that out on the questionable icing.

Goal 5 was an egregious turnover right in front of our net that Tampa somehow had more bodies on.

Mrazek has the worst luck and gets the worst D-Zone play BY FAR of any of our goalies. How anyone can blame this game on him is laughable.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 01/08/18 at 12:50 PM ET

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Little too far on the “blame Razr” thing. Not quite what I was going for, but I typed it in a crappy way.

Posted by ilovehomers on 01/08/18 at 01:10 PM ET

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Posted by Colin from Ken Holland’s new yacht, “Incompetence” on 01/08/18 at 11:50 AM ET

I am not blaming Mrazek (others may be) I’m just jabbing to point out the difference in how we talk goalies considering HHHT’s age bias, funny how we’re quick to ignore/excuse the stats of the young man, but pile onto to the senior statesmen

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 01:19 PM ET

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Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 12:19 PM ET

I think this is more eloquently put and what I was originally going for.

Posted by ilovehomers on 01/08/18 at 01:27 PM ET

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I am not blaming Mrazek (others may be) I’m just jabbing to point out the difference in how we talk goalies considering HHHT’s age bias, funny how we’re quick to ignore/excuse the stats of the young man, but pile onto to the senior statesmen

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 12:19 PM ET

Fair enough, and I’ve been guilty with the age bias and anti-Blash bias before, which I’ve turned around on both. My only criticism of Howard now, especially after reading the Athletic piece about how he turned his game around, is that he isn’t very durable. That’s really as much of an indictment of our over-usage of him as it is him anyway. I still maintain that Mrazek has elite potential, but I see a young kid who has had his confidence shaken by playing behind our VERY shaky defense that seems to never show up for him in games like last night. It’s something I showed statistically at the end of last season with the equivalent of over 100 more medium-danger chances allowed for Mrazek vs Howard (game-adjusted) as well as a huge disparity in the percentage of low-danger and medium-to-high danger chances allowed for both goalies, and it still seems apparent to the eye test right now.

It would actually be an interesting statistical project to take a goalie’s save percentages for the different danger levels of scoring chances and plug them into different defenses’ chances allowed statistics to see how they would fare on different teams, but I don’t have the time for that.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 01/08/18 at 01:54 PM ET

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But what else is Blash supposed to say? We aren’t good enough? Get real.
Posted by ilovehomers on 01/08/18 at 09:11 AM ET

According to HHHT he’s supposed to drill into everyone’s head that the wings suck. That way, they play terrible for years to come and ALL of HHHT becomes Hawks fans because we are stupid.

But NOT the young kids. They are fragile.
Posted by ilovehomers on 01/08/18 at 10:39 AM ET

ughhhh…..the younger generation will always do this…...say they deserve what they have “earned” because they made it into the top of the competition.

Has anyone noticed that Larkin, a kid, has not once complained or unemotionally repeated back what his coach has said to him he needs to improve? The end of last season and Larkin’s last off season he has made a statement that other “kids” should be following: work hard, improve your game and focus on the team makes you a professional. There are enough hockey players with enough talent who can make it the NHL for a few years but don’t have what it takes to produce for an entire career. Larkin is showing them what it takes to make it and stay there.

I’m just jabbing to point out the difference in how we talk goalies considering HHHT’s age bias, funny how we’re quick to ignore/excuse the stats of the young man, but pile onto to the senior statesmen
Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 12:19 PM ET

Murray, this is the age old complaint of each generation as they come up and as they get older. The younger generation feels as they hit a certain point they deserve the same respect as those who have proved longevity. The older generation looks back on the youth thinking, yes I felt that way too but have learned that just getting in the door doesn’t mean you get to stay inside. The younger generation doesn’t understand they have to prove they belong the entire time, but, the older generation should show bias either.

What really bothers me is how this cycle happens generation after generation and the cycle refuses to break.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 01/08/18 at 02:12 PM ET

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I still maintain that Mrazek has elite potential, but I see a young kid who has had his confidence shaken by playing behind our VERY shaky defense that seems to never show up for him in games like last night.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland’s new yacht, “Incompetence” on 01/08/18 at 12:54 PM ET

Well Mrazek played in front of the same defense that Howards been playing in front of for the last few years including this one, so to make excuses for one, while looking the other way for the other shows your bias. No harm in showing it, people have their guys.

I too saw an elite goalie, but then soured on him after his antics.  He faced adversity and instead of working his absolute pants off like a professional, scratch that, like the elite talent of this game and every professional sport would have done, determined to get back in net, and never let it go, he pouted, had an attitude, wasn’t willing to put in the work, and lost the starting job to a never will be when injury gave him yet another opportunity. 

Could he be a guy that needs to be knocked down a peg or two before he gets to work and climbs back up, maybe, but its not going to be here. He gone.

 

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 02:27 PM ET

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but I see a young kid who has had his confidence shaken by playing behind our VERY shaky defense that seems to never show up for him in games like last night.

Colin, I can understand this point of view. The problem with it is it blames someone else for the what only Peter is in control of…...his belief in himself as an adult.

Peter rode his cockiness through the AHL proving he was very good at every level he played in. As a Jr level goalie he played behind a Czeck defense that was clearly outmatched by most teams in the WJrs. He pretty much carried his team to each victory (which is why I became a great fan of his at that time). He did exactly the same when he was placed in Toledo. He clearly did the same in GR, because none of his defensemen there have amounted to much at all. He carried those teams.

Any behavioralist will tell you that children and teenagers need positive experiences to grow their brain. If they do not grow properly then as adults they will only partially reach their full potential. No amount of coddling or “delicate handling” will make them any better at what they do. As an adult they have to either find how to motivate themselves to succeed long term or they won’t. All the potential in the world will only carrie them so far. Alexander Daigle is a great hockey example of this. Peter might be too.

Coaches can not be responsible for 23 different styles of motivation. That’s just not fair to blame them for not being able to do what no one can do. If it were possible for one person to do this, then humans would be having litters and not just one baby at a time. It’s kind of crazy to have that kind of expectation of another person. Ask any coach or teacher how hard it is to give equal time to each kid. Ask them how hard it is to jump between skill levels of each kid and have to shift their levels of expectations between each kid. Most successful coaches and teachers I know employ a system that can successfully instruct at many different levels at the same time. All will almost always prefer working one on one rather then in a group. Ever wonder why teachers advocate for smaller and smaller class sizes?

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 01/08/18 at 02:28 PM ET

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Could he be a guy that needs to be knocked down a peg or two before he gets to work and climbs back up, maybe, but its not going to be here. He gone.
Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 01:27 PM ET

Murray, I don’t know if “knocking him down a peg or two” is a good solution. I feel, if the team hasn’t brought in a sports psychologist for Peter then part of the blame should be on Management. They have invest a lot of money in Peter. The cost of some meetings with a 3rd party psychologist might be helpful to Peter. Of, course, as an adult (and professional), he has to decide to go to them if they are offered.

BTW, thank you for bringing up Professionalism. As an adult, this is the one term that I strongly feel a lot of young people do not understand. If young people do not learn what it takes to be a professional they will always flounder in their profession, not matter the job. Pure talent will only take a person so far. At some point they will need to uncover what separates themselves from the 1000s of other people with that equal talent level.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 01/08/18 at 02:35 PM ET

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Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 01/08/18 at 01:35 PM ET

I meant failure not something the wings were doing to him mentally or whatnot. I.E. a Dan Cleary when he finally realized the effort it took to be a regular player in this league (pics of Holland in his latter years aside). To some extent, I think the way Blashill handled AA, and now Mantha effort/battle = icetime.

You obviously work in some sort of mental health field, Mrazek showed his colors around the age of 23, do you think that would have made a difference? Being serious.  I do think that these guys playing sports does someone extend their youth base mentality, but in the end they are developed adults.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 02:46 PM ET

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Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 01/08/18 at 01:28 PM ET

You need to connect the first part of my statement with the last part.

Statistically speaking, he hasn’t been playing behind the same defense as Howard and I summarized my statistical findings on that from last season. Sure, the players are more or less the same. But the way they have played for both goalies has been VERY different. Over half of the opportunities against that Howard faced last year were low danger opportunities. For Mrazek, it was the other way around, which is exactly what I base my conclusion off of. If anything, you could say our defense has an age bias towards Howard.

One knock for sure is it seems that Mrazek doesn’t have that professionalism and inner drive to rise above these challenges, something I have learned in my few years in the professional world out of college. I’m concerned that Mantha suffers from the same problem as well. I think Mrazek needs a change of scenery and a reset, and he definitely won’t be back next year. There is no way the Wings qualify his $4m contract to be Howard’s backup again.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 01/08/18 at 02:54 PM ET

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do you think that would have made a difference? Being serious.

absolutely! Its for the very reason you state after, the extension of their youth brain mentality, but, all people finish their brain growth period around 18-19 years old. Brain growth for a teen is as important as brain growth as an infant.

but in the end they are developed adults.

I think the trouble that many athletes get into is not breaking free of their “child brain.” Many adults suffer from this as well, though usually from trauma. I imagine for athletes its actually all the coddling (special attention they get for being talented) they get from adults that keeps them expecting that “comfortable” area when things get too hard. It’s very rare that an athlete persists in their career purely on talent. Even athletes who reach the pinnacle of their sport, think MJ, have to work hard to maintain that high level. Look at how hard Lidstrom worked to stay strong enough to play at age 40. I imagined Chellios’ body looked like that too when he played into his 40s.

Every see Stevie’s legs at the end of his career? He wasn’t extending his career with one knee just by talent alone. He clearly kept strengthening his legs to keep playing the game as time went on. I remember he came into Max and Erma’s a few times when I worked there as a kid. All I remember is wondering why are his pants so dang tight…..when I realized his legs were freakishly gigantic!

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 01/08/18 at 03:01 PM ET

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Sure, the players are more or less the same. But the way they have played for both goalies has been VERY different. Over half of the opportunities against that Howard faced last year were low danger opportunities. For Mrazek, it was the other way around, which is exactly what I base my conclusion off of. If anything, you could say our defense has an age bias towards Howard.

Colin, so why would grown men play harder for one grown man and not another? Or, think of it generally, why would anyone work harder for someone and not another person?

Once you know the answer to that question you are on your way to becoming management.

One knock for sure is it seems that Mrazek doesn’t have that professionalism and inner drive to rise above these challenges…..

That’s exactly what I am concluding.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 01/08/18 at 03:04 PM ET

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I’m just happy we spent the first 41 games making our final determination on Mrazek. When we don’t play him, how confident are we of the following scenarios:

1) He sucks. He has no trade value. And he should not be qualified.

2) He’s actually a legit NHL goalie that lost his confidence behind an awful defense, playing for a coach that clearly doesn’t have confidence in him either. And with patience and perhaps a new coach, this young goalie may blossom into a legit NHL player. Therefore he absolutely should be qualified and Howard should be the guy getting shopped around the NHL.

Those are two extremes. How confident is the organization in making the right decision when our coach has not allowed Mrazek to get into a groove. Even sending him to GR on a conditioning stint would have at least allowed the kid to play some games. But instead we just let him rot and clearly plan to let him walk and become a UFA. I hope that’s the right decision. Normally I’d give mgmt the benefit of the doubt in this situation, but they no longer deserve that based on the lengthy list of mistakes in recent years…

Posted by fatsavage on 01/08/18 at 03:08 PM ET

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Murray,

how long do you think it will take for FS to latch on to the word “professional”?

I think we should create a new catch word every month to see if he will pick it up in his vocabulary.

With that said…..

How confident is the organization in making the right decision when our coach has not allowed Mrazek to get into a groove.

I love the assumption that Mrazek’s problem is solely responsible to management.

Even sending him to GR on a conditioning stint would have at least allowed the kid to play some games.

I think that is only allowed when a player is coming off an injury. can anyone confirm?

But instead we just let him rot

again an assumption that Mrazek not playing much is all management’s fault…...

Normally I’d give mgmt the benefit of the doubt

LOL…..I mean RAOTHFLOL…..or whatever that one is…..

but they no longer deserve that based on the lengthy list of mistakes in recent years…

oh…...FS mean way back in 1952 when things were great for the Red Wings and America.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 01/08/18 at 03:16 PM ET

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Normally I’d give mgmt the benefit of the doubt

LOL…..I mean RAOTHFLOL…..or whatever that one is…..

This forever and ever and ever and ever.

Posted by ilovehomers on 01/08/18 at 03:48 PM ET

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Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 01/08/18 at 02:04 PM ET

I would say it’s because of his attitude, but that doesn’t seem to align with the way the team initially played for him and the comments around the room about him. This whole Mrazek situation is quite the enigma.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 01/08/18 at 02:16 PM ET

Yes, but what I will say to the ends of this being “management’s fault” is that management is desperately trying to win because the only thing the reigning Ilitch knows is that playoff hockey = more money and Kenny knows that missing the playoffs = no job, so they are riding Howard into the ground so they can back into the playoffs screaming and on fire again. We are literally watching this unfold right now, with our injury-prone starter unable to even back up Mrazek last night because he has seen too much action. In terms of it having an effect on Mrazek, like all things it’s about what you let get to you and what you don’t. A player who wants to succeed prepares and works EXTREMELY hard to be ready to go when they do get an opportunity, like Cam Talbot, Antti Raanta, and Martin Jones did on teams where there was a clear and dominant starter and found themselves real starting positions.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 01/08/18 at 03:48 PM ET

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Colin, so why would grown men play harder for one grown man and not another? Or, think of it generally, why would anyone work harder for someone and not another person?

Ironically, two years ago (maybe 3?) the same people around here said that the Defense didn’t trust Howard so they played poorly in front of him, so we should just start Mrazek.  Ughhh…

One HUUUUGE part of Howard’s game which has improved tremendously the last two years is his rebound control.  And that’s going to play a big part in not allowing the puck into your own net.

Posted by TreKronor on 01/08/18 at 03:49 PM ET

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A player who wants to succeed prepares and works EXTREMELY hard to be ready to go when they do get an opportunity, like Cam Talbot, Antti Raanta, and Martin Jones did on teams where there was a clear and dominant starter and found themselves real starting positions.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland’s new yacht, “Incompetence” on 01/08/18 at 02:48 PM ET

My only caveat to this statement in regards to Mrazek is that from his starts I have watched this season he has seemed much improved from last season, but he just isn’t getting any help. He just really needs a new team at this point. My best hope for him is that we either…

a) Find somebody, ANYBODY, to trade him to at the deadline where he can find his way with a fresh start

b) Don’t qualify him, at which point he will become a UFA and can get signed as a backup to (hopefully) a different team where he can find his way with a fresh start

It saddens me to think what could have been if we had a good defense in front of him at the start of his career and particularly last year.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland's new yacht, "Incompetence" on 01/08/18 at 03:53 PM ET

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07-08 playoffs. I’ll never know what the data says (or maybe it can be found) but the Wings went down 2-0 in the series to…Nashville?  The Dom was in net. Make the switch to Ozzie…and my comment was the team played better in front of Ozzie.

Sure enough, Ozzie was masterful through the next 2 playoffs.

Couldn’t explain it, but that is what I saw.

Posted by ilovehomers on 01/08/18 at 04:06 PM ET

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Posted by ilovehomers on 01/08/18 at 03:06 PM ET

I remember that season very well, and I remember Hasek being very shaky leading up and into the playoffs.  However, as the designated #1 goalie, Babs started the Dominator; with a short leash.  Sure enough, he underperformed and got pulled.

That’s how I remember it.

Posted by TreKronor on 01/08/18 at 04:08 PM ET

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Murray,

how long do you think it will take for FS to latch on to the word “professional”?

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 01/08/18 at 02:16 PM ET

No idea, I put that dude’s comments in the rear view long time ago, no need to read them, I know what they are before he types them, ignored.

It saddens me to think what could have been if we had a good defense in front of him at the start of his career and particularly last year.

Posted by Colin from Ken Holland’s new yacht, “Incompetence” on 01/08/18 at 02:53 PM ET

If we had a great defense, maybe that protects Howard, and Mrazek never plays, cuts both ways.

IF IF IF we had a good defense, maybe Mrazek just looks like a product of them, like Osgood is always claimed to be, maybe he never earns $4mln which might be his highest payday, maybe we can qualify him and keep him?

IF IF IF we had a better defense, we went farther in the post season and didn’t draft Larkin.

IF IF IF, this could on and on all day, and there’s only one IF that Mrazek controlled, IF he worked hard, IF he was professional, IF his competitive desire fueled him on the ice over his attitude.  You can be a swinging Richard, Super Mario might be the illustration in the urban dictionary for the NHL, but you have to produce and he’s swung out 3x as the starter now, its not a small sample size.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 01/08/18 at 04:14 PM ET

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