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‘Two Things’: A Little Caesars Arena construction update and a strange remark

Of brief Red Wings-related note this morning:

1. The Wings posted a video updating construction at Little Caesars Arena:

2. Bob Wojnowski, Sean Baligian and Dan Miller sat down to talk sports on Sunday's Fox 2 SportsWorks, and when they eventually got to the Red Wings, it was very weird to hear the trio suggest that the Red Wings have "no talent" in the pipeline, which just an accurate assessment:

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Hootinani's avatar

I think that was an absolutely accurate assessment of the state of the Wings.  They said that the Wings do not have high end talent on the team, and that is true.  They also said that Holland is going to have to make some tough decisions regarding who to move to get a top end defenseman on the team, which is also true.  And that job gets even more difficult with the ridiculous contracts handed out by Holland, which they made mention of as well.

Mantha and Larkin are going to have to do some real growth over the summer to make them elite level players, and really Svechnikov is their only legit chance at having a high end forward in the system.  And the young D are still too young to make a call on yet, but up until now they look offensively gifted and defensively suspect.

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 04/17/17 at 11:39 AM ET

WingedRider's avatar

Yes the Prospect pipeline was not rated anywhere near the many other teams above them surveyed.  It was sad to read!

Yes and the current roster has no super star talent aside from Z.  The odd prospect may make that level.  The Wings just have along road ahead of them. A mess that is hard to fix until after 2020

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 04/17/17 at 12:30 PM ET


One can hope that Hronek reaches his max potential in the NHL, while ironing out the glaring errors and adding some heft to withstand the pro game.

And, yes, hopefully Larkin can put it all together and learn to both be a two-way top-two center, while also adjusting to top opposing checkers and maintaining his offensive mentality and explosiveness.

AA can still round out his game, obviously, and offers a dimension few others have.

Mantha seems like the best chance, if he continues to mature and become more consistent, to emerge as a first-line power forward/sniper type talent.

But when you look all through the prospects, where is that big #1 center?

Where is that all-around top-pairing D?

When you consider that 3/4 players I listed are already full-time NHLers and are already three of the few bright spots on the team, it’s sobering.

Meanwhile, every time I look at some of the most consistently dangerous playoff teams of recent seasons, like Chicago and Pittsburgh, they just seem to keep adding one more very impactful young, cheap, relatively unheralded player after another.
In fact, LA’s coach and GM, two of the most lauded at their respective positions, were just fired for a) being unable to surround their core with top supporting players like Chicago and Pittsburgh, etc. and b) handing out unwise contracts to aging and faded players like Brown and Gaborik.

Only in Detroit is this not a firing offense. Or at least a reason for endless excuses.

No one in LA, Chicago or Pittsburgh is saying: well, you know we haven’t drafted high enough in too long - guess we just won too much; other teams have as many scouts as we do now; signing free agents from college or abroad is too competitive these days; or, we have Crosby and Malkin (or Toews and Kane) you can’t expect us to surround them with other good players, can you? It’s too hard!

Look at Pittsburgh. It’s not just the super-stars. It’s not just the other strong veteran talents. If it’s not Crosby, Malkin or Kessel lighting it up, it’s Rust, Sheary, and Guentzel.
Kris Letang is out - where did Pittsburgh find these other defensemen to allow them to compete? Pittsburgh is missing Hagelin and Kunitiz. Where’s the whining and excuses?

Posted by Lefty30 on 04/17/17 at 01:19 PM ET


This is crap.  The Wings have not drafted guys who can step right into the NHL.  Other than Larkin and Dekeyser the rest played in GR.  I don’t agree we are talent scarce,  it takes talent to play at the top of the AHL a very good league.  The Wings could have 2 or 3 d-men that could blossom, you never can predict when a guy is going to burst forth.  It works the other way as well, guys can lose it in one season, Dekeyser stumbled much this year but giving the chance may get it together next year!  So the experts don’t know any more that the faithful fans who follow the minors. Zeesh, we got a dream team down in Toledo that probably could handle a lot of AHL teams.

Posted by jhpcarrier97 on 04/17/17 at 01:45 PM ET

Primis's avatar

The Wings could have 2 or 3 d-men that could blossom, you never can predict when a guy is going to burst forth.

Posted by jhpcarrier97 on 04/17/17 at 01:45 PM ET

This right here is the problem though.  This is what Holland is hoping for, essentially.

The d-men in the pipeline…. they all look like they’re #-#7 d-men in the NHL.  It’s very, very unlikely even one of them will defy this and become a top pairing d-man.

We’re kinda past “hoping”.  Hoping hasn’t worked.

Posted by Primis on 04/17/17 at 02:07 PM ET

Primis's avatar

#3—#7 d-men, sorry.

Posted by Primis on 04/17/17 at 02:10 PM ET

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