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TSN’s Aaron Ward reports that Red Wings are close to extension with Howard

Updated 19x at 2:33 PM: This just popped up, and it's a bit of a doozy:

Update: Ah yes, but a report is a "report":

Update #2: Ditto, says the Macomb Daily's Chuck Pleiness:

Update #3:

Update #4: As the worm turns!

If Howard were to be re-signed at that number, it would complicate the Wings' cap situation with Valtteri Filppula, Daniel Cleary, Drew Miller and Ian White set to become unrestricted free agents, Brendan Smith, Joakim Andersson and Gustav Nyquist coming off their entry-level deals, and Jakub Kindl set to become a RFA.

The Wings would clearly have to use some of their compliance buy-outs (see: Mikael Samuelsson makes $3 million, and Colaiacovo makes $2.5 million; if Todd Bertuzzi can't play next year, the Wings would put him on the LTIR, and I just don't believe that they're going to buy out Franzen) to carve out what would jump from about $12 million in cap space to $17.5 million in cap space.

Update #5: Nevermind...

Update #6: And now, here comes the text, per TSN...

The Detroit Red Wings and goaltender Jimmy Howard are close to finalizing a six-year, $31.8 million contract extension.

The 29-year-old Howard has been with the Red Wings organization since being drafted by the club in the second round (64th overall) of the 2003 NHL Entry Draft.

Through 33 games this season, Howard is 16-12-4 with a 2.41 goals-against average and .917 save percentage. His 16 victories currently places him 11th in the NHL.

MLive's Ansar Khan...

Detroit Red Wings general manager Ken Holland said today that the club is not close to signing goaltender Jimmy Howard, despite a report.

Former Red Wing Aaron Ward of tsn.ca tweeted that Howard is "on the verge of coming to terms on a 6-year deal paying in the range of $5.3 million per season.''

However, Holland said in a text that Howard is "on the same verge as one-week ago.''

MLive.com reported last month that the sides were making good progress on a deal that would pay Howard more than $5 million per season for at least five years.

And Pro Hockey Talk's Ryan Dadoun:

It looks like Jimmy Howard will be the Detroit Red Wings’ starting goaltender for years to come.

Howard is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent this summer, but the Red Wings are close to inking him to a six-year contract, according to TSN’s Aaron Ward.

The deal will reportedly pay Howard something in the ballpark of $5.3 million annually. That represents a major, though not unexpected, jump from the $2.25 million he was owed in 2012-13 before the lockout began.

The 29-year-old has emerged as one of the NHL’s top goaltenders. He’s in his fourth season as Detroit’s starter and, despite a shaky start to the season, has a 2.41 GAA and .917 save percentage in 33 starts.

If the length of the deal is accurate, Howard would join Johan Franzen, Henrik Zetterberg, and Niklas Kronwall as members of the Red Wings’ core that are secured through at least the 2018-19 campaign.

Update #7: Via RedWingsFeed, here's the Macomb Daily's Chuck Pleiness's report:

Wings goalie Jimmy Howard confirmed he’s close to signing a six-year extension to remain with the club.

Howard said after the morning skate at Joe Louis Arena Thursday that he’s “very close” to signing an extension.

The deal could signed by the end of the weekend.

Howard is in the final year of a deal that’s paying him $2.25 million a season.

Update #8: The Detroit News's Ted Kulfan weighs in...

Via RedWingsFeed, the Windsor Star's Bob Duff's posted a video of Howard speaking to the press about much more than just his deal:

Update #9: Duff, repeated via Twitter...

And the AP's Larry Lage weighs in:

Detroit Red Wings goaltender Jimmy Howard says he's "really, really close" to signing a contract extension.

Howard declined to give details Thursday morning and the team says it has nothing to announce.

He is in the second season of a two-year, $4.5 million deal.

The 29-year-old Howard is the first goalie in franchise history to win at least 35 games in each of his first three full seasons. He is 16-12-4 this year, his fourth full season in net, entering a possibly pivotal game Thursday night against the San Jose Sharks.

Detroit is clinging to eighth place in the Western Conference and is hoping to close the season well enough to make a 22nd straight postseason appearance.

Howard says he's focused on helping the Red Wings be in the playoffs.

Update #10: From the Free Press's Carlos Monarrez:

Detroit Red Wings goaltender Jimmy Howard says he’s “really, really close” to signing a contract extension.

Howard declined to give details this morning and the team says it has nothing to announce.

He is in the second season of a two-year, $4.5 million deal.

The 29-year-old Howard is the first goalie in franchise history to win at least 35 games in each of his first three full seasons. He is 16-12-4 this year, his fourth full season in net, entering a possibly pivotal game Thursday night against the San Jose Sharks.

Detroit is clinging to eighth place in the Western Conference and is hoping to close the season well enough to make a 22nd straight postseason appearance.

Howard says he’s focused on helping the Red Wings be in the playoffs.

Update #11: MLive's Ansar Khan adds quotes from Howard to the mix:

“It's really, really close,'' Howard said after the morning skate, before the Red Wings host the San Jose Sharks tonight (7:30, Fox Sports Detroit).

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“I wanted to be here,'' Howard said. “I get along great with everyone here. I believe in this organization. I appreciate how they've treated me.''

Howard, 29, arguably has been the club's most valuable player during this transition season. He is 16-11-4, with a 2.45 goals-against average and .916 save percentage.

“First thought for me was providing for my family and to have that security blanket for them means the most,'' Howard said. “It feels good. I've worked really hard, paid my dues in the minors.''

Said the coach:

“Howie has worked hard and the organization has confidence in him,'' Babcock said. “It's important for us. We need good goaltending. Just how much parity there is, we need him each and every night and he's been excellent for us.''

Babcock said Howard has improved his consistency.

“In anybody's game, there's things he can work on,'' Babcock said. “He can always work on his puck-handling, and he's been working on that. To me, what he's done is become a guy you can count on. That's what you need in this league. The bottom line for us is we hope this gets done so we can get on with winning games.''

Update #12: Here's the Windsor Star's Bob Duff in article form:

“It’s really, really close,” Howard said before Thursday’s game at Joe Louis Arena against the San Jose Sharks. “Hopefully, by the end of the weekend. Pretty much it’s all the little stuff that’s left (to be worked out).”

In his fifth season with the Wings, Howard, 29, indicated he had no desire to test the free-agent market this summer.

“To be honest, I wanted to be here,” Howard said. “I get along great with everyone here. I believe in this organization and I think we’re going to get the job done.”

Detroit coach Mike Babcock was pleased to know that Howard would soon be locked into the fold on a long-term basis.

“I think it’s a great deal,” Babcock said. “Obviously, Howie has worked hard and the organization has confidence in him. It’s important for us. We need good goaltending. With just how much parity there is, we need him each and every night and he’s been excellent for us.”

Update #13: From Duff:

Update #14: The Detroit News's Ted Kulfan weighs in as well:

"With such a condensed schedule, and so many games in a short amount of time, I haven't had much time to think about it," said Howard, who admitted it was more of an issue three seasons ago when going through his first contract negotiation.

Howard, a 2003 second-round pick of the Red Wings, was groomed in Grand Rapids and doesn't want to test the free agent market this summer.

"I wanted to be here," Howard said. "I get along great with everyone here, and I believe in this organization and I want to get the job done."

The security of being with one organization is nice, but Howard said, "It wasn't even my first thought. My first thought was providing for my family, and to be able to have that security for them means the most." Howard's consistency is what's appealing to coach Mike Babcock.

"With anybody, there's things you can work on," Babcock said. "But to me, what he's done is become a guy who you can count on. That's what you need in this league. It's a great deal. Obviously Howie has worked hard and the organization has confidence in him. It's important for us, we need good goaltending with how much parity there is. He's been excellent for us."

Update #15: Hmmm...

Update #16: DetroitRedWings.com's Bill Roose spoke to Howard, too:

On Thursday, the veteran goaltender confirmed that he and the organization are on the verge of finalizing a six-year contract extension that could wind up being worth a reported $5.3 million.

“It’s really, really close,” Howard said. “We’ll see. You never know. Hopefully by the end of the weekend.”

Howard said only “the little stuff” remains before the deal is settled, which will make Howard the fourth Wings’ player signed through the 2018-19 season, joining Johan Franzen, Niklas Kronwall and Henrik Zetterberg.

Howard is the only goalie in team history to win at least 35 games in each of his first three seasons. He has a 16-12-4 record this year, his fourth season between the pipes. And while the 29-year-old Syracuse, N.Y., native struggled early on this season, but he’s rebounded enough to produce a 2.41 goals-against average with a .917 save percentage in 33 starts.

“Howie has worked hard and the organization has confidence in him,” coach Mike Babcock said. “It's important for us. We need good goaltending. Just how much parity there is, we need him each and every night and he's been excellent for us.”

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“I wanted to be here,” said Howard, who will start tonight in a crucial game against the San Jose Sharks. “I get along great with everyone here. I believe in this organization … It feels good, I mean I’ve worked really, really hard, paid my dues in the minors and really became a professional. To see it pay-off here shortly is a good thrill for my family and I.”

Update #17: ESPN's Craig Custance has weighed in as well:

Goaltender Jimmy Howard and the Red Wings are finalizing the last details on a new contract that will keep the goalie in Detroit long term.

"It's close," he told ESPN.com.

Howard confirmed with reporters that's it's a six-year deal, with TSN's Aaron Ward the first to report that it's worth about $5.3 million per season.

As the Red Wings have battled to stay in the playoff chase through injuries and a revamped defense, Howard has been one of Detroit's most consistent performers. He's 16-12-4 with a .917 save percentage and 2.41 goals-against average this season. He was set to become an unrestricted free agent this summer after signing a two-year, $4.5 million contract in 2011.

The new contract comes with a healthy raise and a commitment from the team that could keep the 29-year-old New York native with the Red Wings late into his career.

"It definitely means a lot," he said. "I started my career here, being drafted almost 11 years ago this June. It definitely means a lot to stick around here."

Update #18: Yahoo Sports' Greg "Puck Daddy" Wyshynski likes the deal.

Update #19: The Free Press's Carlos Monarrez posted a clip of Howard discussing the high probability of him re-signing shortly:

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Lenny's avatar

Whoa ! 5.3 per….. Jimmy is good and reliable but 5.3 mm is elite pay imo.

Posted by Lenny on 04/11/13 at 10:14 AM ET

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6 is a long time to keep a goalie. I can’t think of too many in recent years who have had longevity AND reliability at the same time.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 04/11/13 at 10:19 AM ET

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How the hell is he gonna sign Filppula for 4.5+ now?

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 04/11/13 at 10:19 AM ET

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Posted by Lenny on 04/11/13 at 10:14 AM ET

It used to be elite pay… now it’s about right in the middle of the league. In 2 years it has potential to be a great deal if the cap grows again.

http://capgeek.com/leaders/?season=2012&type=SALARY&position=G&limit=25

Posted by Russian Rocket on 04/11/13 at 10:19 AM ET

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It’s a step below elite goaltender money, and that’s fair because Howard is a step below an elite goaltender.

I have no problem with this contract, if accurate.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 04/11/13 at 10:19 AM ET

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RK Player               Team   2012-13 Salary 2012-13 Cap Number
1 Pekka Rinne NAS $7,000,000     $7,000,000
2 Henrik Lundqvist NYR $6,875,000     $6,875,000
3 Roberto Luongo VAN $6,714,000     $5,333,000
4 Ilya Bryzgalov PHI $6,500,000     $5,667,000
5 Cam Ward               CAR $6,400,000     $6,300,000
6 Ryan Miller               BUF $6,250,000     $6,250,000
7 Niklas Backstrom MIN $6,000,000     $6,000,000
8 Marc-Andre Fleury PIT $5,500,000     $5,000,000
9 Carey Price MTL $5,500,000     $6,500,000
10 Miikka Kiprusoff CGY $5,000,000     $5,833,000
11 Rick DiPietro NYI $4,500,000     $4,500,000
12 Jonas Hiller ANA $4,500,000     $4,500,000
13 Jaroslav Halak STL $4,250,000     $3,750,000
14 Kari Lehtonen DAL $4,250,000     $3,550,000
15 Antti Niemi       SJS $4,000,000     $3,800,000
16 Martin Brodeur NJD $4,000,000     $4,500,000
17 Nikolai Khabibulin EDM $3,750,000     $3,750,000
18 Cory Schneider VAN $3,500,000     $4,000,000
19 Tuukka Rask BOS $3,500,000     $3,500,000
20 Devan Dubnyk EDM $3,250,000     $3,500,000

In comparison to the top 20 it doesn’t look as bad…...

Posted by Lenny on 04/11/13 at 10:21 AM ET

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You could make the argument that Howard is better than 7 of the 10 goalies on that list who are making more than he would be.

If accurate, good deal. My guess is he took a bit of a discount for that 6th year.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 04/11/13 at 10:24 AM ET

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He has definitely been the most consistent player on the team and I don’t have a problem with the money, but six years is a long time.

Question: Does Jimmy play out the entire contract in Detroit and, if so, where is Mrazek playing by the time this contract ends?

Posted by Garth on 04/11/13 at 10:31 AM ET

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Lower Quick’s deal to 6 years he’s making 7mil a year. I have no problem with the deal plus how much lower were you expecting if you don’t like this? He wasn’t gonna take 3.5 or anything. Plus when the cap goes up in a few years cap hits will and he’ll look good at that price. Remember when people were worried about Pavel making $6.7 before the 07 playoffs started? Then Drury and Gomez got higher cap hits than that.

As for Fil, I think he was gone either way. He’s gonna get some stupid offer in UFA.

Posted by tmoore4075 on 04/11/13 at 10:33 AM ET

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I agree with you guys, if this is accurate I’m fine with it. 6 years is a bit long but the money seems to be about right.

It’s a step below elite goaltender money, and that’s fair because Howard is a step below an elite goaltender.

I have no problem with this contract, if accurate.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 04/11/13 at 10:19 AM ET

That about sums up my thoughts.

Posted by peiz11 from Minneapolis on 04/11/13 at 10:40 AM ET

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Would’ve preferred 5 years - still convinced Mrazek is the next great thing and is going to take the job at some point.  Other than, I’m just nitpicking, not really bad, especially compared to that list of top 20 goaltenders.

Posted by LivinLaVidaLockout on 04/11/13 at 10:45 AM ET

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PLEASE SEE ABOVE for updates…Pleiness, Duff say the report ain’t accurate.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/11/13 at 10:54 AM ET

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The Wings would clearly have to use some of their compliance buy-outs (see: Mikael Samuelsson makes $3 million, and Colaiacovo makes $2.5 million;

I have no problem with that dollar amount AND if that’s what happens because of it ^^^^^ I’m ecstatic with that number.

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 04/11/13 at 10:58 AM ET

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Since Franzen has moved to center, his game has improved dramatically. Sure I bitch about him with the best of him but if you think logically for a second, his cap hit is right on or better than most given what numbers he puts up.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 04/11/13 at 11:09 AM ET

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If Howard were to be re-signed at that number, it would complicate the Wings’ cap situation

Not necessarily.

Take Howard’s potential $5.3M off the cap space they have and there’s still $12.5M to sign five players.  The only thing this puts the kibosh on is probably the potential for giving Filppula a stupid, stupid $4M+ contract.

$12.5M for five players is $2.5M per player and of Brunner, Smith, Nyquist, Andersson and Kindl I would think the only ones in line for any kind of significant raises would be Brunner and maybe Kindl.  If Andersson, Nyquist and Smith signed one-way deals for exactly the same cap hits as they have now, those would be significan raises from the actual money they made this year.  I’m sure they’ll get raises but I can’t see any of those guys getting really big raises.  Brunner could probably hit $2.5M, but none of the others should come close to that.

I certainly do hope that they buy out Sammy and Colaiacovo but I don’t think a $5M+ Howard contract really complicates much.

Posted by Garth on 04/11/13 at 11:15 AM ET

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So Howard says, “Hey, yeah, we’re close,” and Holland says, “No, we’re really not.”

Sigh.

Posted by RedMenace from the Church of Jesus Lashoff on 04/11/13 at 11:16 AM ET

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I’m not super keen on the length, but it’s a good deal and he could probably get a lot more in free agency.  He’s a step below elite (which is why he’s not getting a contract with a 6-7 mill cap hit), but he’s one of the better golatenders in the league, he’s consistent and he’s a workhorse.

Posted by henrymalredo from Lansing on 04/11/13 at 11:25 AM ET

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Posted by RedMenace from aboard the Crazy Train on 04/11/13 at 11:16 AM ET

Holland also says he likes his team and that getting back injured guys is like making deadline deals and that re-signing roster players is like making big free agent signings.

Posted by Garth on 04/11/13 at 11:30 AM ET

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Posted by Garth on 04/11/13 at 11:30 AM ET

Don’t start.

Posted by RedMenace from the Church of Jesus Lashoff on 04/11/13 at 11:43 AM ET

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Don’t start.

I’m just saying that Holland isn’t forthcoming, so the fact that Howard says they’re close is probably more reliable than what Holland is saying.

Posted by Garth on 04/11/13 at 11:45 AM ET

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Howard confirms he and Red Wings are close on the six year deal. Maybe by weekend. Says he never considered testing FA market.

Why would he if Holland really would hand over that kind of money and term. And it’s the term that’s the problem. As LaVida suggests, what does that mean for Mrazek?

He’ll be ready in no more than two years. What’s he going to do, be a back-up for four before he becomes the starter? That takes “over-ripening” to the extreme, and it’ll only hurt his development.

Give Howard $6M if they have to – but for no more than four years.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 04/11/13 at 11:47 AM ET

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I’ll dissent. The amount and length as reported are both too much for Howard. 4-4.5 per for 4-5 years would have been PLENTY for the kind of goalie that Howard has proven himself to be to this point…particularly on the eve of a potential playoff appearance where he could completely shit the bed and perform even worse than last season.

Whatever. It certainly isn’t the biggest problem this teams roster is facing.

Posted by godblender on 04/11/13 at 11:49 AM ET

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Why would he if Holland really would hand over that kind of money and term. And it’s the term that’s the problem. As LaVida suggests, what does that mean for Mrazek?

Exactly.

Posted by Garth on 04/11/13 at 11:50 AM ET

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6 years is too long and 5.3 mil for each of them is too much, but other than that it’s a great deal.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 04/11/13 at 11:51 AM ET

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Why would he if Holland really would hand over that kind of money and term. And it’s the term that’s the problem. As LaVida suggests, what does that mean for Mrazek?
He’ll be ready in no more than two years. What’s he going to do, be a back-up for four before he becomes the starter? That takes “over-ripening” to the extreme, and it’ll only hurt his development.
Give Howard $6M if they have to – but for no more than four years.
Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 04/11/13 at 11:47 AM ET

If Mrazek beats him out of a job down the line then they trade Howard. Well, that’s how most GMs work.

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 04/11/13 at 11:57 AM ET

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Jimmy is worth whatever he gets out of it.  Truth.  I wonder if he really never considered testing the market because yikes, I would have with the crap support he’s gotten this season and the apparent unwillingness to try to improve for next year.  At any rate, pay the man, he has nothing more to prove to earn it.  If hockey had WAR, one can imagine he’d be amongst the leaders…  just pay the man.

Posted by Primis on 04/11/13 at 11:57 AM ET

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I’m pretty sure Howard’s agent would laugh at a 4 year offer.  Yes, it would work out better for the Wings with Mrazek coming up in a few years, but thats not how contract negotiations usually work.

Posted by henrymalredo from Lansing on 04/11/13 at 11:58 AM ET

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doesn’t Howard kind of have the Wings by the balls?  I mean, who else is there that the Wings could get that would compare to Howard?  and, of course, I’m sure there are more than a few teams that would fight with each other to land him, so….

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/11/13 at 11:58 AM ET

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Hahaha, so much for the “hometown discount”, throw in a NTC as well?  I don’t like this deal, especially given the goalie prospects we currently have.

Posted by bababooey on 04/11/13 at 12:15 PM ET

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How the hell is he gonna sign Filppula for 4.5+ now?

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 04/11/13 at 10:19 AM ET

i say trade his rights at the draft and see what we can get. Never know, someone might wanna let go of a D man to get under cap. Hopefully it works out.

Posted by NIVO from underpants gnome village on 04/11/13 at 12:15 PM ET

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6 years is too long and 5.3 mil for each of them is too much, but other than that it’s a great deal.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 04/11/13 at 11:51 AM ET

What kind of $$$ and term were you expecting??

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 04/11/13 at 12:29 PM ET

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Like I said, it could be argued (and I would argue) that Howard is better than 7 of the 10 goalies who will make more money than him based on this deal.

The term? Yeah, I would’ve liked 4-5, but that was probably not realistic.

Per NHL standards, this is a good deal for a consistent workhorse goalie with a bankable sub 2.5 GAA and ~.920 SV%.

And I say this as someone who’s not even that much of a Howard fan. I don’t know, to me this is a no brainer. I don’t know what you people were expecting.

Did you think he was going to agree to a 4-year, $16 million deal? In this market?

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 04/11/13 at 12:34 PM ET

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I don’t like this deal, especially given the goalie prospects we currently have.

how many goalie prospects actually work out at the NHL level?  but yeah, let’s throw away one of the best goalies in the league because he wants market value, and rely on our 1-in-20 shot that one of our prospects will “make it.”  yikes.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/11/13 at 12:35 PM ET

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because he wants market value

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/11/13 at 12:35 PM ET

This is less than market value. That’s not really up for debate based on the comps.

People can debate the term all they want (and justifiably so), but I really don’t see how you can justifiably argue that this contract is above market value. Unless your argument is “the Red Wings shouldn’t have to pay players as much as other teams do because they’re the Red Wings.”

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 04/11/13 at 12:41 PM ET

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What kind of $$$ and term were you expecting??

Less, obviously.

5 years and 22-23 mil is the highest I’d ever want to go on Howard… and I’d have to look long and hard at even going that far.

Why?  Because Detroit can get 90+% of what they get out of Howard for 40-50% or even less of the salary.  Spending a lot of money on a goalie only makes sense if you’re getting one of the absolutely best goalies in the league, as in a top 3 guy.

Spending 5+ mil a year on a guy who is arguably outside of the top 10 and at best just barely inside of it is a mistake because he’s still going to be the inferior goalie pretty often.

I’d literally rather go into a year with Gustavsson and Mrazek at a combined 2.23 mil than Howard Gustavsson at an alleged 6.8 mil a year.

Put that cap savings of 4.57 mil together with Fil’s cap hit and roster slot and you’re talking about having a slot where you can spend 7.57 mil a year on a forward without negatively impacted general cap status.

Tell me you don’t see a much better, more impactful performance there at forward by doing that than you’d see in decrease between the pipes.  And let’s be clear… I don’t even think we could say that there’d be a certain decrease between the pipes.  Mrazek’s doing everything and more at the AHL level Howard ever did before he came up, and looked at least as good in his short NHL run as Howard did in his short inaugural NHL run

Posted by HockeyinHD on 04/11/13 at 12:47 PM ET

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Tell me you don’t see a much better, more impactful performance there at forward by doing that than you’d see in decrease between the pipes

great, so we get an extra .25 goals per game and give up an extra 1 goal a game.  great plan.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/11/13 at 12:50 PM ET

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Quick, name that goalie:

Goalie #1:

2009-10

W: 32
GAA: 2.53
SV%: .911

2010-11

W: 33
GAA: 2.12
SV%.930

2011-12

W:43
GAA: 2.39
SV%: .923

2012-13

W: 14
GAA: 2.29
SV%: .916

Goalie #2:

2009-10

W: 37
GAA: 2.26
SV%: .924

2010-11

W: 37
GAA: 2.79
SV%.908

2011-12

W:25
GAA: 2.12
SV%: .920

2012-13

W: 16
GAA: 2.41
SV%: .917

Similar ages, similar tenures.

Goalie #1 is widely consider the best (or at least 1a) in the NHL and makes $7 mil per year..

Goalies #2 is Jimmy Howard.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 04/11/13 at 12:52 PM ET

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particularly on the eve of a potential playoff appearance where he could completely shit the bed and perform even worse than last season.

Could.

Could.

Could.

And he could carry the team on his back like he’s been doing in the regular season.

Could.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 04/11/13 at 12:53 PM ET

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I mean, who else is there that the Wings could get that would compare to Howard?

And herein lies the problem with the GM’s activity over the past few years.  He’s abandoned the “defense first” philosophy that allowed them to not worry if it’s Mike Vernon, Chris Osgood or Dominik Hasek (or Ty Conklin or Joey MacDonald) between the pipes and now he has to go from platooning two good goalies to having a definite #1 goalie and he has to pay that #1 goalie (whether it’s Jimmy Howard or someone else) a shitload of money because Detroit needs their goalie to be their best player day in and day out.

Posted by Garth on 04/11/13 at 12:57 PM ET

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5 years and 22-23 mil is the highest I’d ever want to go on Howard… and I’d have to look long and hard at even going that far.

I guess you’d rather let him walk then, because that’s what would happen if the Wings offered him that.

That’s perfectly fine if you’d rather that happen, it’s a legit opinion, but there is no way on God’s green earth the Wings were ever going to sign Howard to that kind of contract.

 

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 04/11/13 at 12:58 PM ET

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