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The overnight report: Red Wings-Blue Jackets set-up, take 3

The Red Wings will sit outside the playoff picture when they battle the Columbus Blue Jackets (7 PM EDT on FSD/FS Ohio/97.1 FM) as the Flyers defeated Chicago on Wednesday night. If that isn't enough motivation to take their frustration out on the Jackets, last week's wretched 5-3 loss in Columbus should serve as enough motivation to ensure that the Wings come out flying tonight.

The Red Wings are in the middle of a 4-game road trip, and have lost 2 straight games, too;

Columbus will be playing the 4th game of a 5-game home stand, and they've lost two games as well, with their most recent defeat coming in the form of a 4-0 loss to Tampa Bay on Sunday, so the Blue Jackets have been stewing for the past four days.

For Columbus, the Wings are a welcome sight: the Blue Jackets have a 10-2-and-2 record over their past 14 games against Detroit, and they've won both of this season's meetings against the Wings.

The Blue Jackets will have a different look against the Wings as they recalled 3 players from the AHL on Wednesday (forwards Oliver Bjorkstrand Michael Chaput and defenseman John Ramage), after shaking up their lines in practice. What will the Blue Jackets' lineup look like against Detroit?*

*And yes, practice stories are all I've got to work with. You've been warned*

That's a very good question, as noted by the Columbus Dispatch's Todd Jones:

[Coach John] Tortorella plans to switch Brandon Dubinsky from center to the wing and move wing Boone Jenner inside to center when the Jackets — losers of two straight games, three of four, and four of six — play the Detroit Red Wings tonight at Nationwide Arena.

“I just want to look at different things as we go through these last dozen games and put people in different spots and see how they react,” Tortorella said.

Tortorella said the lineup change isn’t a reaction to the team’s inconsistent offense. He simply wants to see Jenner playing at center while keeping Alexander Wennberg and William Karlsson at that crucial position for further evaluation.

Dubinsky played some at left wing when Tortorella coached him with the New York Rangers, and the veteran is open to moving from center again. “I don’t make the rules. I just follow them,” he said.

Tortorella said Dubinsky is one of the stronger Jackets along the wall, a good forechecker and has been the team’s best center since Ryan Johansen was traded in January to Nashville for defenseman Seth Jones.

“He’s not crazy about (moving to wing), but he’s going to do anything he can to help the team,” Tortorella said. “I’ve been very impressed with him and how he handles himself.”

Jenner was centering a line in Wednesday’s practice that included Cam Atkinson and Brandon Saad. Dubinsky was with Wennberg and Jared Boll. Karlsson’s wings were Scott Hartnell and Nick Foligno. A fourth line consisted of center Gregory Campbell flanked by Matt Calvert and Rene Bourque.

Asked whether he is considering moving Foligno to center, Tortorella said: “Maybe.”

So dissecting the sanskrit, that's...




and Calvert-Campbell-Bourque

Where do Bjorkstrand, Chaput and Ramage fit in? Good question. Here's more from the Dispatch's Aaron Portzline...

Ramage is the only one who is certain to play. The Blue Jackets are short a defenseman because Dalton Prout is serving a one-game suspension for a blind-side punch in Sunday's game vs. Tampa Bay.

In 55 games with Lake Erie, Ramage has 6-12-18 and 51 penalty minutes. He's 6-0, 205 pounds.

Bjorkstrand could go in on a line with left wing Brandon Dubinsky and center Alexander Wennberg. Those two skated on a line with right Jared Boll in practice today, but Boll -- a fourth-liner -- would seem out of place with those two.

Chaput, 23, has 12 goals, 25 assists and 31 penalty minutes in 55 games with the Monsters this season. He's played in 53 NHL games with Columbus the past three seasons, but almost exclusively in a fourth-line role. He has 2-5-7 in his NHL career.

It's unclear where Chaput may fit. Dubinsky was moved from center to left wing in today's practice, but Boone Jenner was shifted from left wing to center to take his spot down the middle of the ice.

Blue Jackets coach John Tortorella spoke of wanting to see Jenner play center over the last month of the season, so it seems unlikely he was just a temporary plug for practice.

And on defense, from Jones:

Tortorella’s experimenting will continue on defense. After a long stretch of games together, he split up Ryan Murray and Seth Jones from the top defensive pair before the 4-0 loss to Tampa Bay on Sunday. Murray played with Dalton Prout, Jones paired with Fedor Tyutin, and the third pair was Cody Goloubef and David Savard.

“It wasn’t bad,” Tortorella said.

Now Prout is out because he’s serving a one-game suspension from the NHL. The Jackets plan to call up a defenseman from the minors to fill his spot tomorrow against Detroit. Prout practiced today, during which time the team announced that defenseman Jack Jackson’s season is officially he’ll undergo shoulder surgery Thursday.

Tortorella said he’s not set on the defensive pairs. “And it’ll probably change during the game, too,” he said. “We’ll try different people and make adjustments as the game goes on.”

Kay, that's...

Murray-[not Dalton Prout]


and Goloubef-Savard

Who starts in goal? Sergei Bobrovsky is back from his "lower-body injury," so he's very likely to go for Columbus.

If you wish to watch, here are highlights of the Blue Jackets' loss to Tampa Bay:

The Blue Jackets website's Rob Mixer filed a Wings scouting report...

Game Preview: Ten days have passed, but not much has changed for the Detroit Red Wings.

Their playoff fate is still somewhat in question and their overall team play could use some polish. Sitting in the Eastern Conference’s second wild card spot with only a one-point lead over the Philadelphia Flyers (and having just dropped a big game to them in regulation this week), time is of the essence of the Red Wings to gather themselves and start racking up points.

With only 12 games remaining, every game becomes a must-win for Detroit from here to the finish line. Not only would they prefer to make the playoffs in general, but their streak of 24 consecutive seasons of postseason hockey is on the line, as well.

The next few games are an important stretch for the Red Wings as they look to pad their lead on a wild card berth. After playing the Blue Jackets (who are 10-2-2 in their last 14 meetings against Detroit) on Thursday in Columbus, the Red Wings travel to Florida to play road games against the Panthers and Lightning.


Previous Meeting: Refresh your memory and think back to…nine days ago.

These two teams let met on Mar. 8 at Nationwide Arena, the second game of the three-game season series and the first of two in Columbus. Detroit took the first game in a shootout at Joe Louis Arena on Feb. 23, but this time around, it was all Blue Jackets for the majority of the game.

Columbus built a 4-1 third period lead before the Red Wings made their push. They scored a pair of quick goals to pull within 4-3 with 3:30 remaining, but Cam Atkinson scored an empty-net goal in the dying seconds to seal the deal for the Blue Jackets.

NHL.com posted a balanced preview...

Season series: Cam Atkinson had two goals and an assist in the Columbus Blue Jackets' 5-3 win against the Detroit Red Wings on March 8. The Blue Jackets lost to the Red Wings 2-1 in a shootout two weeks prior. Columbus forward Boone Jenner had a goal in each game.

Red Wings team scope: Detroit was off Wednesday to break up a four-game road trip that started with a 4-3 loss to the Philadelphia Flyers on Tuesday. "I know we came into [Tuesday] knowing we needed to win," coach Jeff Blashill told The Associated Press. "Now we have to go Thursday night and get a win. That's the only thing I worry about." The Red Wings are 2-7-2 in their past 11 road games. Defenseman Niklas Kronwall, who is out at least the rest of the week, has missed two games with a sprained knee; it is possible he could miss another two weeks. Goaltender Jimmy Howard started in the loss to the Blue Jackets last week; Petr Mrazek has been in goal in the four games since, winning two.

Blue Jackets team scope: Coach John Tortorella mixed up his lines at practice Wednesday, according to The Columbus Dispatch. Most notably, Brandon Dubinsky moved from center to wing, with Boone Jenner going from wing to center. "I just want to look at different things as we go through these last dozen games and put people in different spots and see how they react," Tortorella told the Dispatch. Defenseman Jack Johnson is out for the season; he will have orthoscopic shoulder surgery Thursday. Johnson missed seven games after leaving against the New Jersey Devils on Feb. 25. Columbus also will be without defenseman Dalton Prout, who was suspended for one game by the NHL Department of Player Safety on Tuesday for punching Tampa Bay Lightning forward Nikita Kucherov on Sunday. "Looking around the League at similar incidents that have occurred, I think the League did a good job," Prout told the Dispatch. "I'm going to serve my punishment. It's fair." The Blue Jackets called up forwards Oliver Bjorkstrand and Michael Chaput and defenseman John Ramage from Lake Erie of the American Hockey League.

The Sports Xchange filed a game preview...

ABOUT THE RED WINGS (34-25-11): Forward Anthony Mantha, the No. 20 overall pick in the 2013 draft, made his NHL debut against Philadelphia and acquitted himself well with four shots on goal, including one off the post. "I thought he looked good," Red Wings captain Henrik Zetterberg said. "He's a big body, skates well. He's got a lot of hockey in him. It's going to be fun to see what he can do here down the stretch." Zetterberg, meanwhile, continues to struggle at the offensive end, failing to score in his last 12 games and collecting only two assists in that span.

ABOUT THE BLUE JACKETS (28-33-8): Columbus could feature a new look against Detroit with the promotion of three players from Lake Erie of the American Hockey League, including Oliver Bjorkstrand - a third-round pick in 2013. The 20-year-old Bjorkstrand had 15 goals and 10 assists in 46 games with Lake Erie after amassing 113 goals and 114 assists in 128 games over two seasons with Portland of the Western Hockey League. Coach John Tortorella shuffled his lines at Wednesday's practice, moving Boone Jenner to center and shifting Brandon Dubinsky to wing.

OVERTIME 1. Blue Jackets D Jack Johnson will undergo season-ending arthroscopic surgery on his shoulder Thursday. 2. Detroit is 2-for-20 on the power play over the past six games. 3. Blue Jacks D Dalton Prout was suspended one game by the NHL for punching Tampa Bay's Nikita Kucherov on Sunday.

PREDICTION: Red Wings 4, Blue Jackets 3

And the AP's game preview adds the usual amount of context and stats:

The Red Wings are feeling a sense of urgency as the number of games dwindle and the pressure mounts. Though Blashill didn't question his team's effort Tuesday, he wants them to respond better when faced with in-game adversity. Detroit has allowed the first goal in every game this month.


Though the Red Wings killed all six penalties against the Flyers and 14 of 15 in four games, they're 3 for 24 on the power play in March.

Points leader Henrik Zetterberg doesn't have a point in seven straight on the road, where the Red Wings are 2-7-2 since early February. Their current three-game road skid included a 5-3 loss to Columbus (28-33-8) on March 8.

Jimmy Howard allowed four of those goals on 31 shots in his most recent start but Petr Mrazek could be in net for this one. Mrazek, who didn't yield more than two goals in four starts prior to giving up all four Tuesday, stopped 28 shots in a 2-1 home shootout victory over the Blue Jackets on Feb. 23.

Columbus followed last week's win over Detroit with home losses to Pittsburgh and Tampa Bay. The Blue Jackets trailed 1-0 after two periods Sunday, but the Lightning scored two straight short-handed goals and broke things open on just nine third-period shots en route to a 4-0 victory.

"That's frustrating," said Blue Jackets coach John Tortorella, whose team has allowed 19 goals while losing three of five in March. "It needs to be a lesson learned that we need to stay with it, and hopefully we can learn from it."

Columbus' Sergei Bobrovsky has allowed seven goals in two games since missing 19 with a groin injury.

Boone Jenner has a goal in each game with the Red Wings this season and Cam Atkinson had two with an assist in last week's matchup.

The Free Press's Helene St. James will offer the Detroit take on the task at hand...

The Wings were handed a deserved 5-3 loss March 8 at Columbus, when they were careless with the puck and undisciplined. Now they return, smarting from a 4-3 loss Tuesday at Philadelphia. Their coach sounded an alarm after a lack of composure set in as soon as the Flyers scored five minutes into the first period. He lamented how easily the Flyers kept building on it.

"We can't give away goals," Blashill said. "We've got to make teams earn goals. We had real, real bad mistakes that were preventable. We've got to keep pucks out of net early and, when we get scored on, we can't let the momentum get away from us. We haven't done a good enough job of that."

Blashill zeroed in on the back end, saying, "Our D corps is way better than that. We've got six real good NHL defensemen, and they've got to play better than that on Thursday, and I think they will."

No one is being called up from the minors, general manager Ken Holland told the Free Press, because the Wings already have used two of the four nonemergency call-ups teams are allowed after the NHL trade deadline.

It's not like the Wings haven't had ample examples of what works. Limit turnovers, and good things happen. Don't, and Columbus and Philadelphia happen. The game Saturday against the New York Rangers saw the Wings dominate from start to finish, even as their task was made hard by the brilliant play of New York goaltender Henrik Lundqvist. The Wings persevered, played their best and banked two points. If the playoffs are to be reached, that performance needs to be the Wings' guiding light.

As will the Detroit News's Ted Kulfan...

When the Red Wings play Thursday in Columbus, there are definite areas Blashill wants to see improvement in. Specifically, the team’s resiliency after allowing a goal and team defense. Both areas were below-standard in Philadelphia.

“We have to keep pucks out of our net early and when we get scored on we can’t let the momentum get away from us,” Blashill said. “We just have to go out the next shift and make sure it’s a momentum changing shift the other way. We haven’t done a good enough job of that (lately). We have to keep pucks out of our net early.

“Our (defensive) core has to be better, unforced errors for nothing. We carried large stretches of the game and then all of a sudden, an unforced error.

“They (Philadelphia’s goals) were defensible plays for sure.  Now they created some once they got rolling in the first (period) in the (offensive) zone, they did a good job of getting pucks to the net, a good job of getting bodies to the net. (But) three of the four were certainly ones that were preventable.”

And MLive's Ansar Khan, via his notebook:

Penalty problems: Defensive issues contributed to the Red Wings being shorthanded six times on Tuesday, compared to just twice for the Flyers. "Fortunately, our PK was really good (6 for 6); it could have been a lot more (goals against) if they weren't playing that good," Henrik Zetterberg said. "It's frustrating, too when it's that lopsided in penalties. Obviously, a few of our penalties were (legitimate) penalties, but it would be nice to get a little more chance on the power play."

Playoff battle: What did Zetterberg have to say about the tight race for the final playoff berth? "There's not that much to say about it. It is what it is," Zetterberg said. "We had a chance, we didn't take in and now we've just got to move on."

Speaking of which, the Windsor Star's Bob Duff added this:

Tuesday’s loss was Detroit’s fifth regulation time defeat of the month and it meant that the Wings had already matched the season-high total for regulation losses in a month and it was only March 15.

The Wings also lost in regulation this month to Chicago (twice), Toronto and Columbus.

Detroit lost five times in regulation in October and December.



Red Wings notebooks and also of Red Wings-related note: The Windsor Star's Bob Duff spoke with Blashill regarding Andreas Athanasiou's role thus far...

In games of late, Athanasiou is getting between 9-11 minutes of ice time per night, and when weighing the pluses and minuses of his game, Blashill believes at this stage of his development, that’s the perfect amount of time to utilize Athanasiou.

“He’s one of those rare guys that doesn’t have to play lots of minutes and gets great opportunities because of his speed that puts team’s on their heels,” Blashill said.

At the same time, like most young players, the puck drives Athanasiou’s passion and Blashill’s objective is to get the speed merchant to deploy his blazing blades as a deterrent.

“His speed is great, but what he needs to do is make sure he uses that speed as a defensive weapon all the time,” Blashill said. “He uses it as an offensive weapon lots, but . . . he needs to use that as a defensive weapon so he doesn’t get beat up the ice."

On a couple of shifts during Detroit's Saturday win over the New York Rangers, Athanasiou got caught cheating on the offensive side of the puck and that ended up leading to odd-man rushes for the Rangers.

“Like everybody else he’s got things he’s got to get better at and one of those things is making sure we use our assets," Blashill said. "I think it’s part of the learning curve and I think one thing he does is he can still give sparks of brilliance, he still gives those moments where he creates something out of nothing.

“To me he’s one of those role players that can play 7-8 minutes and still be effective. How many more (minutes) he gets than that will depend on again, you have to make sure you’re extraordinary defensively this time of year, so the better he is in that are the more minutes he’ll get.”

And the Macomb Daily's Chuck Pleiness spoke with Blashill about Anthony Mantha's evolution:

“We have obviously for a while wanted a bigger body with skill and he’s got that,” Blashill said. “I wanted to make sure that he had enough time to build confidence that when he hits tough stretches in the NHL he’s able to overcome those stretches. I think he’s had that ample time.

“Talking to their coaching staff he’s put himself in a position where he can handle those bumps and bruises along the road, whether it be in a period, whether it be in a game or for a couple of games. To me he’s a guy who should be a good compliment to Pav because he’s a big body that can go to the net front but also has the skill set to make lots of plays with him.”

Mantha was going to be given a chance to make the team and play on one of the top two lines out of training camp during Mike Babcock’s final season, but he broke his leg during the Prospects Tournament and struggled in his first season with the Griffins.

He had 15 goals and 18 assists in 62 games that first year in Grand Rapids.

“When the rest of the guys were really forming those great habits he had to jump into the American League with everybody going full speed,” Blashill said. “The American League doesn’t get enough credit for how hard a jump it is from junior or college. I think it’s an incredibly hard jump. I actually think the jump from the American League to the National League for a lot of players is easier than the original jump. Once he hit the tough stretch, I think the other part is when you’re so elite at a level as he was in junior and this is true with Tomas Jurco, when you’re so elite at those levels you’re able to get away with things. Then you get to the next level and you’re not able to get away with it.

“Sometimes you’ve got to tear down you game to learn how to play the right way and in that process you lose confidence,” Blashill continued. “I thought that happened a little bit but then he’s learned how to play the right way, the way that’s going to help him be successful and now he’s built his confidence back up.”


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Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Uniquake, workin' on my manifesto on 03/17/16 at 01:35 AM ET


Reading St. James and Kulfan, the beat reporters from the two major Detroit daily papers, is like reading craigslist.

Posted by GallopingGreg on 03/17/16 at 06:35 AM ET


Need this one.

And by the way, thanks for nothing, Chicago.

Posted by George0211 on 03/17/16 at 07:36 AM ET

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And by the way, thanks for nothing, Chicago.

I watched quite a bit of that game and the Flyers played pretty well.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/17/16 at 09:08 AM ET

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Must win of must wins. Cannot afford to lose tonight and be one point behind Philly having played two more games…simple as that.

Time for the guys to start playing 60-minute hockey.

Posted by jpellek on 03/17/16 at 09:13 AM ET


Must win of must wins. Cannot afford to lose tonight and be one point behind Philly having played two more games…simple as that.

Time for the guys to start playing 60-minute hockey.

Posted by jpellek on 03/17/16 at 09:13 AM ET

We are already 1 point behind Philly. Wings as of right now are not in the playoffs.

Posted by George0211 on 03/17/16 at 09:15 AM ET

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Yesterday that Hawks had one shot on goal in the third period with about 5 minutes to play in the game..

Once they scored the go ahead goal the Flyers were relentless. A scary performance. I think right now our target should be the Pens…

...the Flyers are now on a divine roll.

Posted by PierreC from Montreal, Canada on 03/17/16 at 09:32 AM ET

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We are already 1 point behind Philly. Wings as of right now are not in the playoffs.

You may have misunderstood my post. I’m aware they’re out, but losing tonight allows Philly the chance to move as much as five points ahead with the two games in hand they have. The margin for error is so razor thin that they’ll likely need to win 9-10 games, beat PIT and PHI and hope one of those lose all three of the head-to-head games they have coming up.

Posted by jpellek on 03/17/16 at 09:32 AM ET

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Blashill said: “To me (Mantha’s) a guy who should be a good compliment to Pav because he’s a big body that can go to the net front but also has the skill set to make lots of plays with him.”

Someone who’s seen the Griffins on a regular basis can correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think Mantha’s success in GR has been as a net front guy. Last I heard, he was playing on a line with Miele and Tangradi, and it was Tandradi who played the net front role.

To mirror how he was used in GR, Blashill should have Mantha playing with Pavel and Abby – not Pavel and Tatar. Or if he wants to keep Abby with Z and Larkin, move Riley up to the wing on Pavel’s line. IMO, Mantha’s big shot is totally wasted standing in front of the goalie. His potential seems to be more in line with a Shanahan than a Homer.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 03/17/16 at 10:06 AM ET


We’ve got six real good NHL defensemen

Not quite Blash. You’ve got 5 mediocre NHL defensemen and one slightly above average offensive defenseman.

Posted by AZWinger on 03/17/16 at 10:26 AM ET


Forgive me, I don’t understand Blashill’s thinking about Athanasiou. he states needs to play better defense,well Athanasiou is +1 on the +/- list which is better than a lot of current players. Offensively, considering time on ice, which includes no power plays he’s probably one of the best scorers in the league. Detroit’s been playing same stupid hockey for awhile, Offensively, shoot the puck in and turn back; defensively, blindly sling the puck along the boards hoping it will clear zone. Looks like pinball game, with probably worse odds of clearing the zone.Turnovers, unabated players in front of goalie, goalie giving up too many rebound opportunities. No Blashill, Athanasiou’s not the problem, even Larkin has fallen from +24 to +17. For me I want my scorers on the ice.

Posted by stateofmifan on 03/17/16 at 10:42 AM ET

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Today would be a good day to start finding the back of the net.

Posted by Figaro from Los Alamos, NM on 03/17/16 at 10:49 AM ET

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Posted by stateofmifan on 03/17/16 at 10:42 AM ET

The only thing i’ve noticed is that AA over skates a little too much in the dzone, where you look to be less erratic and stop on more pucks, and doesn’t always have his stick in lanes, two things which like all young players, is not easy to adapt to at the NHL level.

I would ignore +/- on a player like AA, Blash is obviously putting him in protected situations, i.e. avoiding matchups against top end players, avoiding dzone faceoffs etc. etc.

In general though, I agree I would rather see him used more.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 03/17/16 at 11:09 AM ET


I’m not sure Mantha is the best option for a net front presence but he’s the only option they’ve got for that line. Sheahan has had his chance and done nothing with it. Helm in front is a joke.

Mantha looked good playing with Datsyuk and Tatar. That line looked most productive to me. Keep him there. Let’s see what he can do with them for a few more games before shuffling him around.

Posted by evileye on 03/17/16 at 12:08 PM ET

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Posted by evileye on 03/17/16 at 12:08 PM ET

I think our net fronts in general have been terrible since Holmstrom left, obviously he was one of the best, but they are just there, and that’s about it, aside from Abby to some extent.

Net front isn’t just a big ass in the goalies face, its also a release options on the strong side boards, and critical puck retrieval forecheck for shots that go wide or rebound wide, so to suggest sticking a Dave Karp in front and expecting to sustain pressure isn’t it.

But our net front needs to create more of a riot, get the dman engaged in banging and slamming around (why I never liked Larkin in that spot), make the goalie move to see. Secondly, time a pivot, they ALWAYS face the blue line after the shot, stick waving in the air, where’s the shovel dig for rebounds, get a rebound for a change, at least piss their d off to create that wrestling match on the reset.


Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 03/17/16 at 12:44 PM ET


He’s one of those rare guys that doesn’t have to play lots of minutes and gets great opportunities because of his speed that puts team’s on their heels,” Blashill said.

So, maybe this is exactly why he actually should play more minutes? It’s not like we have some great defensive forwards on this team that must play more than AA. Last year we had Glen and Miller and at least you could make a case for them playing a lot because you knew we would not allow a goal. But now without Miller and with Glen regressing so much, I do not see AA as such a big defensive liability.

Posted by VPalmer on 03/17/16 at 02:29 PM ET


I didn’t explain this before, but my thoughts on coaching is to work with what you have. Obviously, defensive strategies haven’t worked all year,so spend less time trying to make the defense work as much and concentrate on making the offense work. A good offense is a good defense. keep the puck in oppositions zone, so they can’t keep hurting you in your own. Against big teams we need to put two players on one of theirs and they still come up with the puck. Blashill needs to make better use of his players.

Posted by stateofmifan on 03/17/16 at 05:56 PM ET

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