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St. James updates Red Wings’ pursuit of Lecavalier, says Wings’ UFA’s-to-be will wait and see

Updated 5x at 4:33 PM: Via RedWingsFeed, the Free Press's Helene St. James reports that the Red Wings did meet with Vincent Lecavalier this morning, and now they'll wait to find out where Lecavalier wants to land:

The Wings are among about a dozen NHL teams who think Lecavalier would be a good addition, which will lead to eager bidding for his services. Holland described his meeting with Lecavalier as a sort of “feeling out” situation.

“I talked to him about our organization, where he’d fit in,” Holland told the Free Press. “If he’s interested in us, we’ll talk later.”

St. James says that the Wings probably aren't willing to give Lecavalier a long-term deal, which may be a show-stopper...

The stumbling block for the Wings is likely going to come down to term. The buzz in hockey circles is that Lecavalier wants five-to-six years; the Wings aren’t likely to top two. Another team, like the Calgary Flames, who also met with Lecavalier, are likely to give him whatever he wants. So then it’s up to Lecavalier where he’d rather play. Several others teams are in play, too: Montreal, St. Louis, Philadelphia, Dallas, Toronto, Washington and Boston.

The news isn't as good on the Wings' own UFA front, especially given that players can begin to talk to other teams in a "wining and dining" period starting tomorrow:

With today’s focus on the draft, talks with unrestricted free agents will heat up Monday. Players cannot sign until Friday. The Wings remain in talks with all three of their unrestricted free agents — Damien Brunner, Daniel Cleary and Valtteri Filppula — but all appear to want to listen to offers from other teams.

The Wings have most of their pieces in place. A top-six forward tops their wanted list, but that holds true for half the league. Holland reiterated that “I’m not signing somebody just to have something to talk about. We’re not looking to make lateral moves. We’re not looking for one-year fixers.”

The Wings have 12 forwards under contract for next season, along with coming contracts in restricted free agents Gustav Nyquist and Joakim Andersson. They’re also operating under the parameters that guys like Riley Sheahan and Tomas Jurco will be pushing for spots in 2014-15.

Also of Wings-related note:

And, from me:

Update: Interesting:

Update #2: MLive's Ansar Khan also confirms that the Wings met with Lecavalier:

The Detroit Red Wings met with free-agent center Vincent Lecavalier Sunday, trying to gauge his level of interest in joining their organization. General manager Ken Holland and coach Mike Babcock met with the former Tampa Bay Lightning star for about a half-hour.

Now, they'll wait to see if Lecavalier's representatives want to talk more.

“I don't know what their process is,'' Holland said before the start of the entry draft at the Prudential Center. “They reached out to say Vinny was going to be in (New York) this weekend, was going to meet as many teams that had interest to meet. He has to make some decisions personally, what's on his priority list. I don't know the process.''

The Red Wings' interest appears to be lukewarm at best due concerns about his pace and ability to get up and down the ice, as well as his asking price.

Lecavalier is believed to be seeking a long-term deal, possibly five years, and $5 million a season. That would be way more than the Red Wings are willing to offer in term and salary.

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The Red Wings will be in the market for a second-line center because it appears almost certain that unrestricted free agent Valtteri Filppula will sign elsewhere.

Update #3: The Macomb Daily's Chuck Pleiness confirms as well:

“They’re talking to teams, we talked to him,” confirmed Wings general manager Ken Holland, who said the meeting lasted between 30 and 40 minutes at the team hotel. “I don’t know what their process is. They reached out to say Vinny was going to be in (New York) this weekend and was going to meet as many teams that had interest to meet him.”

Lecavalier was bought out by Tampa Bay on Thursday.

“He has to make some decisions personally, what’s on his priority list,” Holland said. “I don’t know the process. They asked if we wanted to meet. We said, ‘Yeah.’”

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“At the end of the day, we’ve got a move or two left,” Holland said. “Our goaltending is set, our defense is set. If we can get a top 2-3 defenseman we’ll look at it. They’re hard to find. We got 14 forwards signed (including RFAs). Some of them are kids. We have a move or two left over the next week or 10 days.”

The Wings currently have 12 players under contract and two others that are restricted free agents – Joakim Andersson and Gustav Nyquist – will be signed sometime in the new future to bring the numbers up front to 14. There are still three unrestricted free agents – Valtteri Filppula, Daniel Cleary and Damien Brunner – that could find their way back on the roster, but those deals may not happen until hours leading up to the start of free agency.

“We’re talking on a regular basis,” Holland said. “I talked to them all just know or yesterday but nothing imminent to report. We’re going to continue to stay in touch.”

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There is also a chance the Wings could decide to use one or two of their allotted contract buyouts, but would need to do so by July 3 since that player or players has to go on waivers.

“I’m not even sure what we’re doing. We’re going to get through today. We’ll wake up tomorrow. I’m going to go home,” Holland said. “We’ve got until Wednesday or Thursday to make some decisions. I’ve talked to, if not all the teams, 25-26 teams yesterday or Friday. Probably lots of teams are like I am, they’re not sure what to make. There’s lots of talk but I can’t tell you I sense anything’s really happening. There might be something happening with a team or two or three.”

Update #4: The Detroit News's Ted Kulfan also confirms:

"We asked questions of him and he had questions for us," Holland said from the NHL draft in Newark, N.J. "We talked about our organization and how we see him fitting. We'll see where it goes. He's talked with other teams. We'll see if there's interest."

Lecavalier's hometown Montreal Canadiens, Toronto, Philadelphia, Dallas (with former Red Wings assistant GM Jim Nill), Anaheim and Boston are among the teams that have been aggressive in their pursuit of Lecavalier.

Lecavalier, 33, played in 39 games last season in Tampa and had 10 goals and 22 assists. At 6-foot-4 and 215 pounds, Lecavalier has the size and skill level many teams covet — some perhaps more than the Red Wings.

The Red Wings aren't likely to offer Lecavalier more than a two-year deal, maybe three years. But some of those other interested teams are likely willing to go as high as five years.

Holland also met with the agents for potential unrestricted free-agent forwards Damien Brunner, Valtteri Filppula and Daniel Cleary in the last few days, but progress on new deals has been slow.

There was speculation leading into the weekend the Red Wings would trade Filppula's rights, but that now appears doubtful.

Update #5: Here's more from the Windsor Star's Bob Duff:

They’re talking to teams,” Holland said of Lecavalier’s people. “They reached out to say Vinny was going to be in (New York) this weekend. We met this morning at 8:30 for about 40 minutes.”

Lecavalier, 33, who is believed to be seeking a five-year pact at US $5-million per season, is still in the process of assembling a list of teams he’d consider.

“He has to make some decisions (about) what’s on his priority list,” Holland said. “I don’t know the process.”

As for his own unrestricted free agents – forwards Daniel Cleary, Valtteri Filppula and Damien Brunner – Holland indicated that there were no new developments.

“There’s nothing imminent to report,” Holland said. “We’re talking on a regular basis and we’re going to continue to stay in touch.”

As far as trading, Holland said he talked to “25 or 26” teams.

“Our goaltending is set. Our defence is set. If we can get a two or three defenceman, we’ll look at it. But they’re hard to find.”

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Hootinani's avatar

If the Panthers are willing to move Tomas Fleischmann, #redwings would be interested.

They have a former Red Wing, we have a 1st round draft pick.  Sounds like a match made in Holland heaven.

Posted by Hootinani on 06/30/13 at 01:14 PM ET

SYF's avatar

St. James says that the Wings probably aren’t willing to give Lecavalier a long-term deal, which may be a show-stopper…

Yep.  It probably was all about term after all.

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 06/30/13 at 01:24 PM ET

Bugsy's avatar

Holland reiterated that “I’m not signing somebody just to have something to talk about. We’re not looking to make lateral moves. We’re not looking for one-year fixers.”

I don’t follow real closely, but I don’t recall any 1 year fixes recently, ?at all? 2 year contracts? Yes.

Posted by Bugsy on 06/30/13 at 01:30 PM ET

HockeytownOverhaul's avatar

I heard Flips rights WOULD DEFINITELY be traded by the draft, these latest reports can’t be right.

Hollands already getting his excuses for nothing happening for “the greatest GM ever to grace pro-sports”

Wont sign just so sign, no one wants to trade, people are squeezed, contract didn’t make sense (as someone signs them for .25m for)  or everyone wants the stable for the horse (and then someone trades for the same horse for 1/3 the asking price.)

Its unreal, even witha logjam, Hollands going to manage not to aquire any assets and turn people lose for free (e.i. bought out)

unreal.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 06/30/13 at 01:47 PM ET

SYF's avatar

Holland just might be the master of the disinformation; keeps everyone guessing.

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 06/30/13 at 01:53 PM ET

Bugsy's avatar

Lecavalier update: he’s going to pare down the list of teams tonight, looks like he doesn’t want to drag this out (hint, hint)

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/25794/horton-out-bs-willing-to-listen-on-seguin

Posted by Bugsy on 06/30/13 at 01:54 PM ET

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Lecavalier is believed to be seeking a long-term deal, possibly five years, and $5 million a season. That would be way more than the Red Wings are willing to offer in term and salary.

And no “one year fixer” either…

This is such bullsh!t

 

Posted by cementslinger from Midland MI on 06/30/13 at 02:16 PM ET

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Barring a significant turn of events, doesn’t sound like Detroit trades Filppula’s rights. Contract talks will continue.
2:26 PM - 30 Jun 2013

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Anybody else have a sneaking suspicion the Wings are going to end up re-signing Filppula?

My “oh, SH*T NO” sense is really tingling today.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 06/30/13 at 11:04 AM ET

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 06/30/13 at 02:21 PM ET

Bugsy's avatar

“At the end of the day, we’ve got a move or two left,” Holland said. “Our goaltending is set, our defense is set. If we can get a top 2-3 defenseman we’ll look at it. They’re hard to find. We got 14 forwards signed (including RFAs). Some of them are kids. We have a move or two left over the next week or 10 days.

There is also a chance the Wings could decide to use one or two of their allotted contract buyouts, but would need to do so by July 3 since that player or players has to go on waivers.

“I’m not even sure what we’re doing. We’re going to get through today. We’ll wake up tomorrow. I’m going to go home,” Holland said. “We’ve got until Wednesday or Thursday to make some decisions. I’ve talked to, if not all the teams, 25-26 teams yesterday or Friday. Probably lots of teams are like I am, they’re not sure what to make. There’s lots of talk but I can’t tell you I sense anything’s really happening. There might be something happening with a team or two or three.”

Okay, so they’re at least it sounds like they’re going to do SOMETHING,....  but as the worry above indicates, “not enough”.....

Posted by Bugsy on 06/30/13 at 02:35 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

I hope the Wings don’t re-sign Fil. He’s not worth the $. Posted without comment from me because I’m f***ing busy.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 06/30/13 at 02:43 PM ET

Mandingo's avatar

I hope the Wings don’t re-sign Fil. He’s not worth the $. Posted without comment from me because I’m f***ing busy.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 06/30/13 at 03:43 PM ET

If the Wings end up signing Filppula for anything even approaching the money and term he’s reportedly requesting, it’ll be one of the most inexplicable signings of my lifetime.

If Pagnotta is correct, it’s obvious they’re serious about getting a deal done. The question now is what the damage will be.

It also probably signifies that the Wings are basically punting on Lecavlier.

 

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 06/30/13 at 02:51 PM ET

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Doesn’t signify anything about Lecavalier. All it says is that the Wings are being stubborn about attempting to retain their home-grown players.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 06/30/13 at 02:54 PM ET

Bugsy's avatar

Doesn’t signify anything about Lecavalier. All it says is that the Wings are being stubborn about attempting to retain their home-grown players.

Nothing new about this, it’s what’s good and bad about the Wings.

Posted by Bugsy on 06/30/13 at 02:57 PM ET

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Barring a significant turn of events, doesn’t sound like Detroit trades Filppula’s rights. Contract talks will continue.

I didn’t just read this, did I?

Posted by godblender on 06/30/13 at 03:02 PM ET

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Kenny is smarter than most of the jackasses who criticize him. Some jackass can mention Keith Yandle now….

Posted by Bay Area Wings fan on 06/30/13 at 04:14 PM ET

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