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So What Do You Think? Are The Red Wings The 17th Best Team In The League?

via TSN Power Rankings,

This Week 17 - Last Week 13 - Detroit Red Wings 6-3-0

Had a four-game winning streak snapped Saturday at Phoenix, but the bigger concern (when it comes to the rankings) for the Red Wings is the health of D Niklas Kronwall, clearly their best on the blueline. 
Key Injuries: D Niklas Kronwall (concussion).

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LivinLaVidaLockout's avatar

Yeah, Red Wings are too slow and old, lost Lidstrom last year and are toast on defense now.  It’s a credit to Mike Babcock that he can coach this set of misfits into a top-30 club right now.

Posted by LivinLaVidaLockout on 10/21/13 at 03:56 PM ET

WingedRider's avatar

Scott Cullen has always missed the mark with all his comments.  This one was a HUGE miss but it doesn’t count in the standings.  I laughed when I read most of choices.  He is a Leafer check the rankings, LOL

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 10/21/13 at 03:59 PM ET

bezukov's avatar

The Wings are tied for the fifth best record in the league.  Going by that metric they’re at least in the top ten.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 10/21/13 at 04:08 PM ET

bigdee89's avatar

We like to be underdogs.  Look how it helped us last year.

Posted by bigdee89 from The Great White North Eh? on 10/21/13 at 04:13 PM ET

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Yeah, except that the Power Rankings aren’t the standings.  These fall under “Fantasy News” on the site and the fact that Detroit’s starting goalie missed three of four games and lost the game he played, combined with the team getting next to zero secondary scoring and that their best defenseman got injured all factor into it.

So no, they aren’t the league’s 17th best team, but they had a mediocre week fantasy-wise.  Not sure why people take such offense.

Posted by Garth on 10/21/13 at 04:15 PM ET

LivinLaVidaLockout's avatar

Yeah, except that the Power Rankings aren’t the standings.  These fall under “Fantasy News” on the site and the fact that Detroit’s starting goalie missed three of four games and lost the game he played, combined with the team getting next to zero secondary scoring and that their best defenseman got injured all factor into it.

So no, they aren’t the league’s 17th best team, but they had a mediocre week fantasy-wise.  Not sure why people take such offense.
   
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    Garth
     
      on 10/21/13 at 04:15 PM ET

Hmm, don’t think it’s based on fantasy production - should just be the author’s evaluation of the team’s long-term performance for the year mixed with how the season has gone so far.  What you’re forgetting, though, is how all the Red Wings are fat and they are lazy.

Posted by LivinLaVidaLockout on 10/21/13 at 04:20 PM ET

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Actually Garth, Cullen explains how he establishes the Power Rankings and I know he is their fantasy guy, but I don’t think this is on the fantasy side…

Arriving at a single rating number for each player simply helps to synthesize an individual’s contribution to the collective effort.  Player ratings generally fall between 55 and 100, give or take a few points, with the very best players in the league pushing, or occasionally surpassing, 100, while fringe NHLers will be in the mid-50s.

So, now that each player has a rating based on his statistical production, the next step is to generate team rankings and I do that by weighting each player’s contribution based on their role on the team.  Thus, first line forwards count much more significantly than fourth-line forwards and top-pair defencemen are more impactful than third-pair defencemen and so on.

What this methodology allows is for players to be moved in and out of the lineup based on injuries, suspensions, trades—whatever transaction will affect the lineup, so that a value can be established for the current team.  I readily acknowledge that it is an estimated value for any team, but I readily acknowledge it because there is not a flawless, guaranteed accurate measure that exists, and I’ve found this model to be representative, even if the results aren’t always popular.

Additionally, by using statistics alone to generate the rankings, there should be no illusions of bias or favouritism affecting the rankings.

That means the team that is going on the ice that night, not the one that was playing weeks or months ago or will be playing when an injured star returns because, when the injured star returns to action, that will also be reflected in the rankings.

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Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 10/21/13 at 04:21 PM ET

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    from Motown Area on 10/21/13 at 04:21 PM ET

Very interesting Paul, I haven’t seen this type of analysis before.  It really sounds like he’s just plugging lineups into EA Sports’ NHL 2014 and seeing what team has the highest “OVERALL” rating.

Posted by LivinLaVidaLockout on 10/21/13 at 04:29 PM ET

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Regardless of the “power ranking” they’ve been the only team capable of putting a blemish on Colorado’s or San Jose’s record. I’ll take wins/points over “power rankings” every time.

Posted by evileye on 10/23/13 at 06:56 PM ET

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