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Sign Filppula?

In a paid subscription article, Craig Custance of ESPN had this to say about Valtteri Filppula.

Regardless of the frustrations he causes Red Wings fans at times, if Filppula goes to the open market, he'll get paid. No doubt about it. There aren't many centers hitting the market, and even fewer in his age range (29). Keep in mind that he's represented by the same agency (Acme World Sports) that got Ville Leino a six-year, $27 million contract from the Sabres in free agency.

This certainly hasn't been a contract year for Filppula, but he's just one year removed from a 23-goal, 66-point season. Considering the lackluster free-agent class, the Red Wings' cap room and even the possibility of Datsyuk leaving down the road, I think Ken Holland finds a way to get this deal done. He has to.

Agree or disagree?

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Well, he’s scored 30 or more three times and 25 or more two more times versus two 18-goal campaigns.  Stop pretending that there is anything suggesting he’s more apt to be 18-goal Ryder than 30-goal Ryder, because there’s nothing suggesting that.  Those tow years are more of an abherration than the 30-goal years.  Since his two 18-goals years he has scored 35 in a full year and 16 in a half-year.

Posted by Garth on 04/26/13 at 07:29 PM ET

The two 18 seasons came on a good Bruins team that made a deep playoff run including 1 Cup year.  The higher totals have come in MTL and DAL on teams that aren’t playoff teams at all, or were very early exits.  That’s another part of my concern, is that he’s another Ray Whitney.

Posted by Primis on 04/26/13 at 07:42 PM ET

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The two 18 seasons came on a good Bruins team that made a deep playoff run including 1 Cup year.

On one of those years he was tied for third in goals while being 16th on the team in ice time (8th among forwards) and the other year he was fifth in goals on a deeper team.  Oh, and you seem to have cherry picked his two worst year in Boston as well, because he scored 27 goals on a Boston team that won the President’s Trophy.  That 27 goals was second on the team.

Right now he’s on Montreal, a playoff team, and even though he’s only played 26 games with them, his output in Montreal would put him 4th on the Wings in goals.  Of course, his output for the entire year, split between Dallas and Montreal this year, would put him squarely in the #1 position in goals on Detroit.

And he had 30 goals in 2006-7 on a Montreal team that barely missed the playoffs.  (Psst, that’s pretty comparable to this year’s Detroit team, were he to join it in the off-season), and also had 30 goals in 2005-6 on a Montreal team that made the playoffs in 7th place.  He led his team both of those years.

This year?  Leading scorer on Montreal over the course of the season.  That, of course, is a season total split between Dallas and Montreal.  His Montreal total—10 goals in 26 games—would tie him for fifth.  Not amazing, but when you consider he played 20 fewer games with the Canadiens than most of the guys ahead of him, that’s pretty good.

And really, is this Detroit team closer to the being the Boston team that won the Cup—on which Ryder had one of his 18-goal years—or is it closer to the other teams he played on, which mostly made the play in low seeds or came close to the playoffs but missed out?

If you think that, in coming to Detroit, he would be joining a team that is in the same league as the Boston team that won the Cup then you’re out of your mind.

Posted by Garth on 04/26/13 at 08:36 PM ET

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Grmph.  I had a very long, detailed post out talking about Ryder’s gamelog, salary, and DET’s cap numbers for next year… and when I hit Post it disappeared.  My day in a nutshell today.

Anyways, the short of it and ignoring the Ryder details of how inconsistent he is (moreso than Franzen even):  Assuming some assumed re-signings (Brunner and the RFA’s, and probably underestimated their raises) and others let walk like Cleary and White (and not counting or assuming any amnesty buyouts), DET should end up with roughly just under $8m under the lowered cap because Howard’s raise is going to wash out losing one of Cleary or White roughly.

With that $8m they’ll have to decide to re-sign or wave goodbye to Fil.  They’ll have to address the need for a d-man to play with Kronwall.  And then you want to somehow add probably around $5m for Ryder.  That is probably asking too much of the WIngs’ cap space.

Posted by Primis on 04/26/13 at 10:51 PM ET

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(moreso than Franzen even

Show your work, please.

And yeah, if the Red Wings don’t use their buyouts, they’ll have about $8M.  Fine.  Obviously the assumption of signing ANYONE is based on the Wings using their buyouts and/or making trades.  Otherwise the Wings already have a full roster for next year.

If they want a scorer, they’re going to have to spend.  Simple as that.  And what’s better?  Ryder for $5M a year getting 25-3 goals and 50-60 points or Filppula for $5M a year getting 10-15 goals and 30-40 points?

That is probably asking too much of the WIngs’ cap space.

Why?  What good is leftover cap space?  We know they’re not going to trade for anyone at the deadline.  If they don’t spend it on someone it’s not good for anything.  Why not give $5M to Ryder rather than keeping Samuelsson and giving $2.5M to someone else who won’t do anything?

Ryder would be an improvement.  Plain and simple.  There is absolutely no questioning that.  Jesus, imagine Datsyuk feeding the puck to someone who actually thinks of shooting first, not as a last resort!

Posted by Garth on 04/26/13 at 11:30 PM ET

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I for one have spent enough years wishing Fil would get to the next level.  Let’s move on.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 04/27/13 at 05:26 AM ET

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