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Shiznit. Wild sign Suter, close with Parise, sorry, Red Wings fans

Updated 13x at 2:42 PM: Suter says it was the Wings, Wild or Preds for him: Per the Minneapolis Star-Tribune’s Michael Russo:

The Wild has landed its blue-chip defenseman and is working toward landing the big fish, blue-chip forward as well.

After an impressive maneuver Tuesday to get itself in front of free-agent Ryan Suter, the Wild has agreed to terms on a 13-year contract with defenseman Ryan Suter, sources say.

But the Wild’s not done in its attempt to shake a hockey-mad market into a frenzy.According to sources, the Wild was working on agreeing to terms with Minneapolis-born Zach Parise on a 13-year deal.

If successful, and it appears as if it will be, Parise and Suter are forming a star-studded tandem that can come to Minnesota and perhaps help alter the fortunes of a franchise that has missed the playoffs four consecutive seasons.

And from Craig Custance:

Red Wings have been notified they’re out of Parise hunt.

Helene St. James...

Red Wings have been notified by Zach Parise camp that they are out.

And Ted Kulfan:

Wings out on parise

Update: Per ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun:

Zach Parise has agreed to terms with the Minnesota Wild

Update #2: Duh, from Chuck Pleiness:

There will be no celebrating on the Fourth of July for the Detroit Red Wings as prized free agent defenseman Ryan Suter has signed with the Minnesota Wild.

More work lies ahead for GM Ken Holland as he tries to reload on the blue line after the loss of Nicklas Lidstrom and Brad Stuart this offseason.

Duh, part 2, from Pleiness:

There will be no celebrating on the Fourth of July for the Detroit Red Wings as prized free agent forward Zach Parise has signed with the Minnesota Wild.

This comes right after it was announced defenseman Ryan Suter inked a deal with the Wild as well.

GM Ken Holland may be working the phones this holiday to come up with Plan B to keep the Wings a contender this season and into the future.

Update #3: From ESPN’s LeBrun:

Deal is $98 million over 13 years for Parise

More from LeBrun:

Ryan Suter also got same $98 million over 13 years with Wild

Update #4: From St. James:

Losing Ryan Suter is pretty devastating to #RedWings. He was heads above any other UFA D available. Options now are Carle, Colaiacovo.
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Losing Zach Parise far less significant. #RedWings have numerous options up front. Will look to sign Shane Doan, still trade talks for Nash

Here’s St. James’ article:

The Red Wings lost out on their no. 1 target of free agency, as elite defenseman Ryan Suter opted to sign with Minnesota. The Wild also won the services of forward Zach Parise, a prized forward to whom the Wings had tendered an offer as well. The Wings made a 13 year, $90 million offer to Suter, who they saw as the best option to transition from a defense that has lost Nicklas Lidstrom and Brad Stuart this off-season.

With Suter off the market, the next-best options are defensemen Matt Carle and Carlo Colaiacovo. The Wings made a two-year offer to Sami Salo on Sunday, but he ended up signing with Tampa Bay.

Carle, 27, isn’t a great shut-down guy, but he’s reliable in his own end and has topped 30 assists in each of his last two seasons. He’s coming off a four-year, $13.750 million contract (average salary cap of $3.4 million), and, though it’d be a high price to pay, given the dearth of quality defensemen available this summer he probably will command $5 million a season.

Colaiacovo, 29, could be had for less money (he is coming off a three-year contract with an average salary cap hit of $2.125 million), but he’s a risk as he’s been fairly injury prone, missing more than 50 games over the past three seasons with various ailments. He’s got decent offensive skills, which could be further developed from playing in Detroit’s system, but it’s doubtful the Wings would want to commit much term to him.

The other possible route is to trade for someone. Right now, there are five defensemen under contract for next season, headlined by Niklas Kronwall. The others are Jonathan Ericsson, Ian White, Brendan Smith and Jakub Kindl, and the team is working on re-signing restricted free agent Kyle Quincey.

Kronwall is bonafide top-four guy who is good in all areas. The Wings will keep pushing Ericsson to become a shut-down defenseman. Ian White’s production dropped off last season after he lost Lidstrom as a partner, but he’s pretty solid overall. Smith is considered a high-end talent, and will be expected to push for a top-four role. He’s a smart, puck-moving defenseman, albeit prone to risky maneuvers as he’s still adjusting to NHL level.

Kindl has been the seventh guy now for a while, and this is his make-or-break season, as he’s in the last year of a contract. Quincey was acquired around the trade deadline, and while he struggled to adjust, the Wings are hoping he’ll have a bounce-back season after being with the team from training camp.

The Wings weren’t nearly as gung-ho about adding Parise, as they are much better stocked up front and have more options as far as making further changes. They will turn their pursuit now to unrestricted free agent Shane Doan, and will also continue to discuss trading for Columbus superstar Rick Nash.

Update #5: From Brendan Savage, via RedWingsFeed:

The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that Suter, who played for the Nashville Predators last season, has agreed to a 13-year deal with the Wild and that Minnesota was nearing an agreement with Parise.

But Bob McKenzie of TSN in Canada said on Twitter that Parise has also agreed to terms with the Wild.

That’s a blow to the Detroit Red Wings, who made offers to both players and sent owner Mike Ilitch, general manager Ken Holland and advisor Chris Chelios to Madison, Wis., Tuesday to meet with Suter in person.

Kevin Allen of USA Today reported that Parise informed the Red Wings today they were out of the running for his services.

From the Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan:

It looks like defenseman Ryan Suter and forward Zach Parise did want to play on the same team — just not the Red Wings.

The two most coveted free agents appear headed to the Minnesota Wild, the hometown team of the Minneapolis-born Parise, and not far from Suter’s Madison, Wis., farm.

Parise notified the Wings, general manager Ken Holland said, at approximately noon Wednesday of his decision. Suter is set on signing with the Wild, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported.

Now the Red Wings must come up with a Plan B.

The loss of Suter, in particular, is a huge blow to a team that is looking to replace the retired Nicklas Lidstrom.

The Wings will now have to pick through what remains on the free-agent market — former Philadelphia defenseman Matt Carle is a good possibility — or try to swing a trade for a defenseman such as Phoenix’s Keith Yandle or Calgary’s Jay Boumeester.

Update #5.5: From St. James:

Interesting: Wild now have $28 million for 2012-13 tied up in 4 players in Suter, Parise, Koivu and Backstrom.


Update #5.75: WXYZ’s Brad Galli, Michigan Hockey now’s Michael Caples and Fox Sports Detroit confirm.


Programming note: I will NOT be covering the Suter/Parise press conferences. I will be covering what the Red Wings do and how the Wings react. The Wings are my team, and Suter and Parise are not Red Wings. The end.


Update #6: And this is why the Wings will go after free agents—they have no leverage and teams will want to fleece them for defensemen, as Helene St. James suggests:

For those speculating #Redwings trade for Shea Weber: Just picture what Central Division rival Nashville would want in return.
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There’s always possibility #Redwings trade for a top-four defenseman, but prices will be high because teams know they need one.

Update #6.5 From ESPN’s LeBrun:

Just chatted with Ken Holland, ``We feel good about our offers to both Suter and Parise. They were very competitive. Now we move on.’‘


Update #7: LeBrun in text form:

Red Wings Ken Holland said he tried his best to sign UFAs Ryan Suter and Zach Parise, who both signed Wednesday afternoon with the Minnesota Wild.

“We feel good about our offers to both Suter and Parise. They were very competitive. Now we move on,” Holland told ESPN.com.

Holland said he was at least glad the Wings could fly into Madison, Wisc., Tuesday and meet with Suter to make their pitch. Holland was joined by Wings owner Mike Illitch, team exec Chris Chelios and head coach Mike Babcock.

Meanwhile, Predators GM David Poile said on a conference call that he was incredibly disappointed in losing Suter. He said he made a 13-year offer. A source tells ESPN.com it was for $90 million. Poile said he never got a chance to match Suter’s offer from Minnesota, which also disappointed him. Poile says now the focus is on trying to replace Suter in free agency or via trade, and by furthering contract talks with captain and RFA Shea Weber.


Update #8: Many MSM’ers are predicting the downfall of the Wings, Pro Hockey Talk’s Jason Brough isn’t, yet…

When Nicklas Lidstrom retired at the end of the season, a massive hole opened up on the Detroit defense that nobody could be expected to fill. However, of all available free-agent defenseman, Ryan Suter had the potential to fill it the most.

That the Red Wings had the cap space to sign the 27-year-old, and it was believed Suter wanted to play close to his home in Wisconsin, made Detroit the favorite to get him. But they didn’t. So, what do they do now? Because they also lost Brad Stuart to San Jose.

As it stands, the Wings’ top four consists of Niklas Kronwall, Jonathan Ericsson, Kyle Quincey and Ian White.

Young guys with potential include Jakub Kindl, 25, and Brendan Smith, 23.

All in all, it’s not terrible.

But clearly Wings GM Ken Holland isn’t sold on his current group or he wouldn’t have so aggressively pursued Suter.

UFA defensemen Holland could target include Matt Carle and…Matt Carle.

Looking at the trade market, Jay Bouwmeester could possibly be had from Calgary. The smooth-skating 28-year-old is overpaid by a couple of million bucks, but Detroit has cap space to spare and there’s only two years left on his contract.

Expect to hear Shea Weber’s name in trade speculation as well. Now that the Predators have lost Suter, what are the chances Nashville can keep its captain past July 1, 2013, when he can become an unrestricted free agent?  Once GM David Poile stops punching holes in the wall, he’ll have to at least consider moving Weber and start rebuilding (again).

Via Meg Hope Roberts, however, the Free Press’s Jeff Siedel is freaking out. Whatever.

Update #9: the Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan offers alternatives:

With defenseman Ryan Suter and forward Zach Parise off the free-agent market, what will be the Red Wings’ next move? Here are some available free agents and players that might be available via trade:

FREE AGENTS

Shane Doan, Phoenix, center: Fine power forward who would fill a need, but is waiting to see how the Coyotes’ ownership situation is resolved. He never has shown inclination to leave Phoenix throughout his long career.

Alex Semin, Washington, left wing: Has top-end offensive skills and displayed chemistry with Pavel Datsyuk at the recent world championships, but has been criticized for lack of effort and inconsistency.

Matt Carle, Philadelphia, defense: Mobile defenseman played all 82 games with the Flyers last season with four goals and 34 assists while averaging 23 minutes. Will be heavily pursued by teams now with Suter off the market.

TRADES

Rick Nash, Columbus, right wing: One of the premier power forwards in the game, Nash scored 30 goals last season and has scored as many as 41 in his career. But would the Blue Jackets trade within the division? Doubtful.

Bobby Ryan, Anaheim, right wing: For some reason the Ducks continue to shop the young 31-goal scorer who has a manageable cap number ($5.1 million) and is in demand by many teams.

Jay Bouwmeester, Calgary, defense: The Flames could be in the need to drop a salary or two, and Bouwmeester and his $6.68 salary cap number may be expendable. Averaged almost 26 minutes, plays well defensively, never has been a big offensive force.

Keith Yandle, Phoenix, defense: The Wings and several other teams had discussions at the draft about this offensive defenseman (32 assists, 43 points).


Update #10: Ken Holland, elegant, simple, per the Free Press’s Helene St. James:

#Redwings GM Ken Holland on Ryan Suter to Wild: “His wife is from Minny. Grandparents are nearby. We lost out to family. Can’t beat family.”

Update #10.5: More from St. James:

#RedWings will take a breath now, evaluate what’s still on market. IMO they’re not going to overpay just to land somebody else for defense

Update #10.6: St. James again:

As for up front, #RedWings till take a run at Shane Doan if he’s willing to leave PHX. They’re still interested in Rick Nash.

Update #10.7: Even more from St. James:

#RedWings weren’t close on money for Zach Parise. Weren’t going to cough up average cap hit of $7.5 million for him.
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Will be interesting to see what #Wild do now - half of $70 M cap in 5 players. They’ll try to move Dany Heatley, but will they succeed?

Update #11 from St. James: This is why the Wings won’t trade for Rick Nash:

Like I’ve written before, for #RedWings to get Rick Nash, would take comb. of Filppula, Franzen, prospects like Smith, Nyquist, plus picks.
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#RedWings cannot afford to trade D Brendan Smith.

Update #11.5: And surprise, from St. James, listening in on the Parise-Suter conference call:

Zach Parise says it was between New Jersey and Minnesota.

Update #11.75: From the Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan:

Holland feels family was key, big reason for Parise and Suter. Felt very comfortable with offers to both, primarily Suter

Update #12 from Kulfan:

Didn’t sound like Holland was going to jump that quickly into FA pool or trades…FA pool has been picked over pretty well

Update #13: Well, take some solace in this, from Dmitry Chesnokov...

Suter - Detroit is a great franchise; I met with them; they have a great thing going there; they were right up there till the end.

Craig Custance...

Suter on Red Wings: “They were right there until the end as well.”

Pierre LeBrun...

So for Suter, it came down to Nashville, Detroit and Minnesota

And St. James:

Ryan Suter: “Detroit is a great franchise. They’ve got a great thing going there, everybody knows how much success they’ve had.”
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Ryan Suter on #RedWings: “They were right there till the end.”

And here’s the money, folks, from Rich Chere...

Parise’s contract is front-loaded: $12M, 12M, 11M, 9M, 9M, 9M, 9M, 9M, 8M, 6M, 2M, 1M, 1M

And the bonus structure, from ESPN’s LeBrun:

So both Parise and Suter each get $25 million in signing bonuses: $10 M payable now, $10 M payable July 1, 2013 and $5 M on July 1, 2014
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That $10-M bonus payable now is protected from any possible rollback or lockout…
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Combined with $2-M base salary in each of first 2 years, that’s $12 M total compensation in each of first 2 years

Update #13.5: From St. James:

To clarify why I don’t think the Wings have afford to trade Smith: He’s top-4 material, and they are low on D after losing Lidstrom, Stuart
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Wings plan on Brendan Smith being regular next season. Doesn’t matter how little he played last season. He’s part of their future.

Update #14: From the AP’s Larry Lage:

Confirmed Zach Parise and Ryan Suter both got 98 million in 13-year deals. #RedWings GM Ken Holland declined if he offered more or less.

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HockeytownOverhaul's avatar

Get over yourself.

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 12:36 PM ET

Now that’s funny

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 02:41 PM ET

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I"m afraid the strain was more than he could bare.

Guess the idea of being the top defenseman for an OG6 team that’s had one of the best F’s of the game, one of the best D of the game, and one of the best Capt’s in the game, is just too much tradition to live up to.  Well played.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 12:22 PM ET

couldn’t have said it better !!!  too much pressure for the wittle guys

Posted by MsRedWingFan from West Michigan hometown of Abdelkader on 07/04/12 at 02:41 PM ET

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I’m sorry, is that what happened or did these guys take their time making a choice about the rest of their careers, and how and where they’re going to raise their families?

Sorry Garth, but this 4 day fiasco is worse than ‘The Decision’ in my mind. I looked back as far as the 2007 FA year and not once has one, let alone two, of the best FA’s made it past July 2nd. Why do Suter and Parise need 2 extra days to make their decision? Holding up basically every other FA and most teams. Jerks! Like a few other posters have said, teams won’t be happen how this played out. Whatever, what’s done is done, and I’m just happy I can move on with my life and not be a slave to twitter!

Posted by cainer4wingsglory on 07/04/12 at 02:41 PM ET

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Which tells you that someone talked the other into signing with Minny, and it tells me at had to be Parise because Suter wanted Detroit, Parise obviously didn’t, so the only other place was Minn.

I think you’re absolutely right about that.

I also think that there was a real chance that they wouldn’t play together.  Parise was likely always going to Minny, no matter what everyone was saying about Pittsburgh being the favourites.  He’s from Minnesota right?  Makes sense for him.  And I also think that as much as Suter may have wanted to be in Detroit, he saw that both of them going to any one team helps that one team more than either of them going to separate teams.

And hell, why not try to play together?  Everyone was offering lifetime contracts, it seems, so this was going to be their only chance, aside from Olympics, or when they’re going to be playing together in the World Championships in April….

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 02:42 PM ET

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Now that’s funny

It is funny watching all you crybabies taking it personally, like you somehow deserve to get them and they don’t deserve to do what they want.

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 02:43 PM ET

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Well, the youngsters get more pressure now to step up, since Ken Holland already said part of this escapade was because they didn’t step up like the Wings hoped they would. Step up, boys.

I’m pretty much with Garth on this one. The reason the duo was so prized was as much their leadership and character on/off the ice. They didn’t suddenly turn evil We’ll get over this. They get to spend the rest of their careers near home. The Wings should just keep aiming to get into the playoffs, and let the chips fall where they may. If the duo sincerely thinks they’ve got a shot to win in Minnesota, I’m not going to be the one to say they’re wrong.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 02:45 PM ET

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Do you practice being a crybaby?

Where, anywhere, did anyone read that Nashville never had a chance?  I’m sure over the four days Suter never once talked to anyone.  Let’s all just pretend that evil, moustache-twirling Ryan Suter, who EVERYONE wanted on Saturday, somehow screwed over the Predators just because he didn’t re-sign with them.

Give me a break.  Get over yourself.

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 12:36 PM ET

Crybaby? I just pointed out that he went to basically the same situation.

You fly in and disagree with everyone often times it seems just because you can. Your no authority about anything any more than I am but attitude it is just dickish. 

In my opinion you overbearing jack ass I feel that he did do a disservice to the Predators. He didn’t leave on bad terms that we know of and there wasn’t any hockey media saying Nashville just had their pitch meeting or just got off the phone with a pitch.

How about you not be a douchebag for about five minutes.

Posted by Moocat on 07/04/12 at 02:47 PM ET

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they were just spinning their wheels driving the price up is all ... greed will get them in the end, with no cup and no ring on their finger for doing so.

Posted by MsRedWingFan from West Michigan hometown of Abdelkader on 07/04/12 at 02:48 PM ET

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Of course, I would have never said or thought “crybaby”,... but that’s not my style.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 02:48 PM ET

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It’s like rebuilding all over again in MIN.  Good fuching luck with that.

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 07/04/12 at 02:49 PM ET

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We had Suter… damn Parise.

The kicker is these two couldn’t win the cup in NJ or Nashville, established teams with a supporting cast.  So under the pretense of stability, a chance to compete for a decade, and just wanting to play good ole hockey they went to Minnesota!  What a joke, good luck on trying to make the playoffs half of the next 12 years let alone win a cup.

I bet Nashville gets one before the Wild, they are run terribly.

Posted by Joe from NY on 07/04/12 at 02:50 PM ET

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How about you not be a douchebag for about five minutes.

How about the sun rising in the West? LOL

Posted by calquake on 07/04/12 at 02:50 PM ET

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It’s funny watching these little dillusions play out in your head where it’s you against the world haha.  Poor guy wink

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 02:52 PM ET

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As long as forumites aren’t fighting each other all day,.... Move ahead.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 02:56 PM ET

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Posted by MsRedWingFan from West Michigan on 07/04/12 at 12:48 PM ET

EXACTLY and for players who said it wasn’t about money, seems shady.  They let the Agents dictate play and they Jagr’d us.  90m/13 years for the DRW.. OOORRRR 98m/13years for the Wild.  Where do you think you’ll have more career success?  They want farms and winter, Michigan had both.  The most reclusive private guy in hockey in TPH managed over 20 years here without shining in the limelight.

it came down to money, like they said it wouldn’t

And Moocat, dont’ waste your time with him, he’s more worried about being contrary than being right.  Waste of thought unless it’s just to patronize him, in which case, it gets pretty fun haha

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 02:56 PM ET

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George, you want to bring up more info on the alternatives now?

And y’all, donate to George,  I ask you. I already have.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 02:58 PM ET

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I already have.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 12:58 PM ET


How humble of you.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 03:01 PM ET

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. I already have.

Jesus Christ, dude.

Posted by monkey from Finland on 07/04/12 at 03:03 PM ET

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Wouldn’t it be funny if MIN announces a trade involving Parise and Suter?  That’d be a hoot.

Posted by cementslinger from Midland MI on 07/04/12 at 03:03 PM ET

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This isn’t bragging, I just don’t want anyone saying, “why? haven’t you?” I just don’t want to sound hypocritical. I just want to encourage others to donate, too. Please don’t overread into it.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 03:03 PM ET

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Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 01:03 PM ET

No one did, no one has.  I’ve never seen that comment posted.  I have however started seeing the “you better donate” posts the past couple days.  I’m sure people who can give, do.  Don’t need you rah-rah cheerleadering me so you can say you already have there Mr. Perfect.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 03:05 PM ET

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I expected to feel totally bummed out. Why do I feel a weird sense of relief?

Posted by Blanc on 07/04/12 at 03:09 PM ET

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HTO, sorry, I’m trying too hard. I’m not perfect. I’m sorry I’ve offended you than others. I’ll shut up on it after this. I thought George did better on this fundraising last year, that’s all. I know the economy’s hard. I’ll just drop the money issue after this post. Honest. Sorry George. I meant well, I just got people upset. I’m not a better person because I donated. For those who can afford it, though, I just wanted to make sure George doesn’t have to struggle more $/emotionally than he already has. Sorry again, to you HTO, and all of you.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 03:15 PM ET

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Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Poile says Predators never got a chance to make a counter-offer. Clearly irked.

https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/220560525325635584

aaaand I’m done.

Happy 4th everyone

Posted by Moocat on 07/04/12 at 03:19 PM ET

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What is this about me and money? Don’t worry about me. Donations are voluntary and everyone has been very generous. If people don’t want to or simply can’t that’s fine. I’m gonna be okay there.

You don’t have to do anything here, nothing at all, save being civil toward each other if at all possible.

You are my audience, you are the reason that I do this, and I am incredibly grateful to each and every one of you for simply reading this blog. You don’t need to do anything to prove to me that you’re awesome. I already know it and I want you to know it, too. You’re all awesome and I am so grateful and thankful that I can do this for you.

Let’s stick to coping with the news and hoping that KH will avail himself of the plans the Wings’ front office went over on Saturday.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/04/12 at 03:25 PM ET

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I still think that Nash’s asking price is way too high, but I’d love to see them swing a deal for Bobby Ryan. I won’t be shocked if KH moves a big chip to make it happen, either. The team needs some new blood, even if it means moving out a well-established member of the team.

Posted by RyanVM on 07/04/12 at 03:28 PM ET

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I heard that Chelios has offered to suit up next season.

Posted by Luke from Denver on 07/04/12 at 03:29 PM ET

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Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 01:15 PM ET

Dude, you can be on my team anytime.

Posted by calquake on 07/04/12 at 03:42 PM ET

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There, now we can be friends again

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 03:49 PM ET

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I would have LOVED Detroit getting both (or just Suter), but they didn’t and now it is time to do real work. I much prefer home grown draft players over free agents because it makes the rest of the league look stupid when DRW pulls hall of famers from the third - seventh rounds.

I don’t like the idea of getting Nash. They don’t need a second Franzen.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 07/04/12 at 03:53 PM ET

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parise + suter watch = hockey fan blue balls

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 07/04/12 at 03:58 PM ET

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the recent dickhole behavior in this comment section is really bumming me out.

Bugsy was just trying to rally everyone to help make this prospect camp trip easier on George. It wasn’t directed at anyone personally. If you have nothing nice to say…

Posted by cowboycoffee from San Francisco, CA on 07/04/12 at 04:10 PM ET

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Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 01:15 PM ET

Whoa there dude.  Everything is cool.  We took it the wrong way, it happens.  Nothing is *#$%@& here, man.

Posted by monkey from Finland on 07/04/12 at 04:20 PM ET

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If you have nothing nice to say…

I DIDN’T GET MY SUTER

Posted by monkey from Finland on 07/04/12 at 04:20 PM ET

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And besides, I’ve gotta say that after this me-me-me-I-deserve-to-wait-forever business

I’m sorry, is that what happened or did these guys take their time making a choice about the rest of their careers, and how and where they’re going to raise their families?

Nobody likes a crybaby.

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 12:23 PM ET

+10,000 Garth.

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 07/04/12 at 04:51 PM ET

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Utterly, utterly, utterly pathetic that parise had such a “hard time” deciding between only the Devils and the Wild, and that he and Suter were more or less recruiting each other to play for the same team for the last six month. the POOR boys needed SO much time to decide to be paid a shit-ton of money. At least Suter considered Detroit’s offer.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/04/12 at 04:53 PM ET

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Look up for the salary structure and bonuses. $25 million in lockout-proof money, $24 million in the first two years.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/04/12 at 04:58 PM ET

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All about family, all about family. And such a hard decision. MY ASS IT WAS.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/04/12 at 04:59 PM ET

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less than 72 hours.  not too much time.  at all.  good for them.

Parise gets to play where his dad played, his home, and of his girl friend.  Suter gets to play near where he has family and his home is driving distance away.

Everyone needs to stop being so hurt like 11th grade girls jilted for prom.  I know from personal experience that hurts.

This will not make the Wild instant Cup contenders.  They did not by any stretch of the imagination screw over teams or lead anyone on a lengthy wild goose chase.

They shunned publicity and made a solid, family-based decision after due diligence.  Very difficult to find anything wrong with that in an era when there are plenty of “highest dollar only” athletes.

Fans need to get over it and move on like the Wings brass is doing at this very minute.

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 07/04/12 at 05:03 PM ET

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And I believe every word of St. James saying Nash’s price would start at Filppula and Franzen (there’s 100+ points gone) as well as Smith and Nyquist, PLUS draft picks.

That’s just stupidly expensive for one player.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/04/12 at 05:04 PM ET

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