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Shiznit. Wild sign Suter, close with Parise, sorry, Red Wings fans

Updated 13x at 2:42 PM: Suter says it was the Wings, Wild or Preds for him: Per the Minneapolis Star-Tribune’s Michael Russo:

The Wild has landed its blue-chip defenseman and is working toward landing the big fish, blue-chip forward as well.

After an impressive maneuver Tuesday to get itself in front of free-agent Ryan Suter, the Wild has agreed to terms on a 13-year contract with defenseman Ryan Suter, sources say.

But the Wild’s not done in its attempt to shake a hockey-mad market into a frenzy.According to sources, the Wild was working on agreeing to terms with Minneapolis-born Zach Parise on a 13-year deal.

If successful, and it appears as if it will be, Parise and Suter are forming a star-studded tandem that can come to Minnesota and perhaps help alter the fortunes of a franchise that has missed the playoffs four consecutive seasons.

And from Craig Custance:

Red Wings have been notified they’re out of Parise hunt.

Helene St. James...

Red Wings have been notified by Zach Parise camp that they are out.

And Ted Kulfan:

Wings out on parise

Update: Per ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun:

Zach Parise has agreed to terms with the Minnesota Wild

Update #2: Duh, from Chuck Pleiness:

There will be no celebrating on the Fourth of July for the Detroit Red Wings as prized free agent defenseman Ryan Suter has signed with the Minnesota Wild.

More work lies ahead for GM Ken Holland as he tries to reload on the blue line after the loss of Nicklas Lidstrom and Brad Stuart this offseason.

Duh, part 2, from Pleiness:

There will be no celebrating on the Fourth of July for the Detroit Red Wings as prized free agent forward Zach Parise has signed with the Minnesota Wild.

This comes right after it was announced defenseman Ryan Suter inked a deal with the Wild as well.

GM Ken Holland may be working the phones this holiday to come up with Plan B to keep the Wings a contender this season and into the future.

Update #3: From ESPN’s LeBrun:

Deal is $98 million over 13 years for Parise

More from LeBrun:

Ryan Suter also got same $98 million over 13 years with Wild

Update #4: From St. James:

Losing Ryan Suter is pretty devastating to #RedWings. He was heads above any other UFA D available. Options now are Carle, Colaiacovo.
Losing Zach Parise far less significant. #RedWings have numerous options up front. Will look to sign Shane Doan, still trade talks for Nash

Here’s St. James’ article:

The Red Wings lost out on their no. 1 target of free agency, as elite defenseman Ryan Suter opted to sign with Minnesota. The Wild also won the services of forward Zach Parise, a prized forward to whom the Wings had tendered an offer as well. The Wings made a 13 year, $90 million offer to Suter, who they saw as the best option to transition from a defense that has lost Nicklas Lidstrom and Brad Stuart this off-season.

With Suter off the market, the next-best options are defensemen Matt Carle and Carlo Colaiacovo. The Wings made a two-year offer to Sami Salo on Sunday, but he ended up signing with Tampa Bay.

Carle, 27, isn’t a great shut-down guy, but he’s reliable in his own end and has topped 30 assists in each of his last two seasons. He’s coming off a four-year, $13.750 million contract (average salary cap of $3.4 million), and, though it’d be a high price to pay, given the dearth of quality defensemen available this summer he probably will command $5 million a season.

Colaiacovo, 29, could be had for less money (he is coming off a three-year contract with an average salary cap hit of $2.125 million), but he’s a risk as he’s been fairly injury prone, missing more than 50 games over the past three seasons with various ailments. He’s got decent offensive skills, which could be further developed from playing in Detroit’s system, but it’s doubtful the Wings would want to commit much term to him.

The other possible route is to trade for someone. Right now, there are five defensemen under contract for next season, headlined by Niklas Kronwall. The others are Jonathan Ericsson, Ian White, Brendan Smith and Jakub Kindl, and the team is working on re-signing restricted free agent Kyle Quincey.

Kronwall is bonafide top-four guy who is good in all areas. The Wings will keep pushing Ericsson to become a shut-down defenseman. Ian White’s production dropped off last season after he lost Lidstrom as a partner, but he’s pretty solid overall. Smith is considered a high-end talent, and will be expected to push for a top-four role. He’s a smart, puck-moving defenseman, albeit prone to risky maneuvers as he’s still adjusting to NHL level.

Kindl has been the seventh guy now for a while, and this is his make-or-break season, as he’s in the last year of a contract. Quincey was acquired around the trade deadline, and while he struggled to adjust, the Wings are hoping he’ll have a bounce-back season after being with the team from training camp.

The Wings weren’t nearly as gung-ho about adding Parise, as they are much better stocked up front and have more options as far as making further changes. They will turn their pursuit now to unrestricted free agent Shane Doan, and will also continue to discuss trading for Columbus superstar Rick Nash.

Update #5: From Brendan Savage, via RedWingsFeed:

The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that Suter, who played for the Nashville Predators last season, has agreed to a 13-year deal with the Wild and that Minnesota was nearing an agreement with Parise.

But Bob McKenzie of TSN in Canada said on Twitter that Parise has also agreed to terms with the Wild.

That’s a blow to the Detroit Red Wings, who made offers to both players and sent owner Mike Ilitch, general manager Ken Holland and advisor Chris Chelios to Madison, Wis., Tuesday to meet with Suter in person.

Kevin Allen of USA Today reported that Parise informed the Red Wings today they were out of the running for his services.

From the Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan:

It looks like defenseman Ryan Suter and forward Zach Parise did want to play on the same team — just not the Red Wings.

The two most coveted free agents appear headed to the Minnesota Wild, the hometown team of the Minneapolis-born Parise, and not far from Suter’s Madison, Wis., farm.

Parise notified the Wings, general manager Ken Holland said, at approximately noon Wednesday of his decision. Suter is set on signing with the Wild, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported.

Now the Red Wings must come up with a Plan B.

The loss of Suter, in particular, is a huge blow to a team that is looking to replace the retired Nicklas Lidstrom.

The Wings will now have to pick through what remains on the free-agent market — former Philadelphia defenseman Matt Carle is a good possibility — or try to swing a trade for a defenseman such as Phoenix’s Keith Yandle or Calgary’s Jay Boumeester.

Update #5.5: From St. James:

Interesting: Wild now have $28 million for 2012-13 tied up in 4 players in Suter, Parise, Koivu and Backstrom.

Update #5.75: WXYZ’s Brad Galli, Michigan Hockey now’s Michael Caples and Fox Sports Detroit confirm.

Programming note: I will NOT be covering the Suter/Parise press conferences. I will be covering what the Red Wings do and how the Wings react. The Wings are my team, and Suter and Parise are not Red Wings. The end.

Update #6: And this is why the Wings will go after free agents—they have no leverage and teams will want to fleece them for defensemen, as Helene St. James suggests:

For those speculating #Redwings trade for Shea Weber: Just picture what Central Division rival Nashville would want in return.
There’s always possibility #Redwings trade for a top-four defenseman, but prices will be high because teams know they need one.

Update #6.5 From ESPN’s LeBrun:

Just chatted with Ken Holland, ``We feel good about our offers to both Suter and Parise. They were very competitive. Now we move on.’‘

Update #7: LeBrun in text form:

Red Wings Ken Holland said he tried his best to sign UFAs Ryan Suter and Zach Parise, who both signed Wednesday afternoon with the Minnesota Wild.

“We feel good about our offers to both Suter and Parise. They were very competitive. Now we move on,” Holland told ESPN.com.

Holland said he was at least glad the Wings could fly into Madison, Wisc., Tuesday and meet with Suter to make their pitch. Holland was joined by Wings owner Mike Illitch, team exec Chris Chelios and head coach Mike Babcock.

Meanwhile, Predators GM David Poile said on a conference call that he was incredibly disappointed in losing Suter. He said he made a 13-year offer. A source tells ESPN.com it was for $90 million. Poile said he never got a chance to match Suter’s offer from Minnesota, which also disappointed him. Poile says now the focus is on trying to replace Suter in free agency or via trade, and by furthering contract talks with captain and RFA Shea Weber.

Update #8: Many MSM’ers are predicting the downfall of the Wings, Pro Hockey Talk’s Jason Brough isn’t, yet…

When Nicklas Lidstrom retired at the end of the season, a massive hole opened up on the Detroit defense that nobody could be expected to fill. However, of all available free-agent defenseman, Ryan Suter had the potential to fill it the most.

That the Red Wings had the cap space to sign the 27-year-old, and it was believed Suter wanted to play close to his home in Wisconsin, made Detroit the favorite to get him. But they didn’t. So, what do they do now? Because they also lost Brad Stuart to San Jose.

As it stands, the Wings’ top four consists of Niklas Kronwall, Jonathan Ericsson, Kyle Quincey and Ian White.

Young guys with potential include Jakub Kindl, 25, and Brendan Smith, 23.

All in all, it’s not terrible.

But clearly Wings GM Ken Holland isn’t sold on his current group or he wouldn’t have so aggressively pursued Suter.

UFA defensemen Holland could target include Matt Carle and…Matt Carle.

Looking at the trade market, Jay Bouwmeester could possibly be had from Calgary. The smooth-skating 28-year-old is overpaid by a couple of million bucks, but Detroit has cap space to spare and there’s only two years left on his contract.

Expect to hear Shea Weber’s name in trade speculation as well. Now that the Predators have lost Suter, what are the chances Nashville can keep its captain past July 1, 2013, when he can become an unrestricted free agent?  Once GM David Poile stops punching holes in the wall, he’ll have to at least consider moving Weber and start rebuilding (again).

Via Meg Hope Roberts, however, the Free Press’s Jeff Siedel is freaking out. Whatever.

Update #9: the Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan offers alternatives:

With defenseman Ryan Suter and forward Zach Parise off the free-agent market, what will be the Red Wings’ next move? Here are some available free agents and players that might be available via trade:


Shane Doan, Phoenix, center: Fine power forward who would fill a need, but is waiting to see how the Coyotes’ ownership situation is resolved. He never has shown inclination to leave Phoenix throughout his long career.

Alex Semin, Washington, left wing: Has top-end offensive skills and displayed chemistry with Pavel Datsyuk at the recent world championships, but has been criticized for lack of effort and inconsistency.

Matt Carle, Philadelphia, defense: Mobile defenseman played all 82 games with the Flyers last season with four goals and 34 assists while averaging 23 minutes. Will be heavily pursued by teams now with Suter off the market.


Rick Nash, Columbus, right wing: One of the premier power forwards in the game, Nash scored 30 goals last season and has scored as many as 41 in his career. But would the Blue Jackets trade within the division? Doubtful.

Bobby Ryan, Anaheim, right wing: For some reason the Ducks continue to shop the young 31-goal scorer who has a manageable cap number ($5.1 million) and is in demand by many teams.

Jay Bouwmeester, Calgary, defense: The Flames could be in the need to drop a salary or two, and Bouwmeester and his $6.68 salary cap number may be expendable. Averaged almost 26 minutes, plays well defensively, never has been a big offensive force.

Keith Yandle, Phoenix, defense: The Wings and several other teams had discussions at the draft about this offensive defenseman (32 assists, 43 points).

Update #10: Ken Holland, elegant, simple, per the Free Press’s Helene St. James:

#Redwings GM Ken Holland on Ryan Suter to Wild: “His wife is from Minny. Grandparents are nearby. We lost out to family. Can’t beat family.”

Update #10.5: More from St. James:

#RedWings will take a breath now, evaluate what’s still on market. IMO they’re not going to overpay just to land somebody else for defense

Update #10.6: St. James again:

As for up front, #RedWings till take a run at Shane Doan if he’s willing to leave PHX. They’re still interested in Rick Nash.

Update #10.7: Even more from St. James:

#RedWings weren’t close on money for Zach Parise. Weren’t going to cough up average cap hit of $7.5 million for him.
Will be interesting to see what #Wild do now - half of $70 M cap in 5 players. They’ll try to move Dany Heatley, but will they succeed?

Update #11 from St. James: This is why the Wings won’t trade for Rick Nash:

Like I’ve written before, for #RedWings to get Rick Nash, would take comb. of Filppula, Franzen, prospects like Smith, Nyquist, plus picks.
#RedWings cannot afford to trade D Brendan Smith.

Update #11.5: And surprise, from St. James, listening in on the Parise-Suter conference call:

Zach Parise says it was between New Jersey and Minnesota.

Update #11.75: From the Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan:

Holland feels family was key, big reason for Parise and Suter. Felt very comfortable with offers to both, primarily Suter

Update #12 from Kulfan:

Didn’t sound like Holland was going to jump that quickly into FA pool or trades…FA pool has been picked over pretty well

Update #13: Well, take some solace in this, from Dmitry Chesnokov...

Suter - Detroit is a great franchise; I met with them; they have a great thing going there; they were right up there till the end.

Craig Custance...

Suter on Red Wings: “They were right there until the end as well.”

Pierre LeBrun...

So for Suter, it came down to Nashville, Detroit and Minnesota

And St. James:

Ryan Suter: “Detroit is a great franchise. They’ve got a great thing going there, everybody knows how much success they’ve had.”
Ryan Suter on #RedWings: “They were right there till the end.”

And here’s the money, folks, from Rich Chere...

Parise’s contract is front-loaded: $12M, 12M, 11M, 9M, 9M, 9M, 9M, 9M, 8M, 6M, 2M, 1M, 1M

And the bonus structure, from ESPN’s LeBrun:

So both Parise and Suter each get $25 million in signing bonuses: $10 M payable now, $10 M payable July 1, 2013 and $5 M on July 1, 2014
That $10-M bonus payable now is protected from any possible rollback or lockout…
Combined with $2-M base salary in each of first 2 years, that’s $12 M total compensation in each of first 2 years

Update #13.5: From St. James:

To clarify why I don’t think the Wings have afford to trade Smith: He’s top-4 material, and they are low on D after losing Lidstrom, Stuart
Wings plan on Brendan Smith being regular next season. Doesn’t matter how little he played last season. He’s part of their future.

Update #14: From the AP’s Larry Lage:

Confirmed Zach Parise and Ryan Suter both got 98 million in 13-year deals. #RedWings GM Ken Holland declined if he offered more or less.

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Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 02:12 PM ET


Fuch it. Well, I guess there’s nothin to do now.  I might as well go into work and not do anything.

Posted by cementslinger from Midland MI on 07/04/12 at 02:13 PM ET

HockeytownOverhaul's avatar

Wont change the Wild.  Having Gabby didn’t make them contenders.  Having Heatley and Seto didn’t make them contenders.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 02:14 PM ET

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The Wild? Really?

Posted by cainer4wingsglory on 07/04/12 at 02:14 PM ET

Cal's avatar

I wonder how this happened.  Did the Wild management drive up and catch him in the barn?  Got pictures?

Time for Plan B, apparently.

Posted by Cal on 07/04/12 at 02:15 PM ET

IwoCPO's avatar

It’s actually amusing.  Next?

Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 07/04/12 at 02:15 PM ET

perfection's avatar

ouch… kind of

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 07/04/12 at 02:15 PM ET

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Well boys and girls, assuming no D trades, time to be a bubble team. Crap.

Dont fail us now Kenny.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 07/04/12 at 02:16 PM ET


“family and friends” after all, will be the headline

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 02:17 PM ET


It’s actually amusing.

Yeah seriously.  If it were the Pens or Hawks I’d be pissed but…the Wild?  What?

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 02:17 PM ET


Iwhen all is said and done, there will be some hard feelings over this.  There are going to be teams that are NOT happy, and I’m not talking about not landing these guys but the way it was handled.  I would bet we may hear more about this summer unfolds.

Posted by Booyah! from chicago on 07/04/12 at 02:18 PM ET

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And besides, I’ve gotta say that after this me-me-me-I-deserve-to-wait-forever business, I’ve soured on Parise and Suter considerably.


Posted by cainer4wingsglory on 07/04/12 at 02:18 PM ET

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I suppose it takes the sting of not landing them in Detroit a little more bearable knowing they’re going to Minny. rolleyes

Posted by SandysWingingit on 07/04/12 at 02:20 PM ET

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And Parise to Wild, officially.

TooToo and Kronwall… are you listening?

Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 07/04/12 at 02:20 PM ET


I’m telling you, there will be teams that are steamed with the way they were treated.  Thre will be rumblings and echoes about this for awhile.

Posted by Booyah! from chicago on 07/04/12 at 02:20 PM ET


I still want the wings to max upgrade, but in the salary cap era, just get in and be hot like the Kings, and who knows?

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 02:21 PM ET

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I"m afraid the strain was more than he could bare.

Guess the idea of being the top defenseman for an OG6 team that’s had one of the best F’s of the game, one of the best D of the game, and one of the best Capt’s in the game, is just too much tradition to live up to.  Well played.

Offer sheet on Weber?

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 02:22 PM ET


So Suter screws over Nashville for Minnesota. Not Detroit, or Pittsburgh, Philly…but Minnesota??

I actually feel a little bad for the Preds. Is that much of Parise’s bitch boy…

Posted by Moocat on 07/04/12 at 02:22 PM ET

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Big deal.  Suter would’ve been nice, but it’s not like he’s the second coming of TPH or something.  If this is The Decision, then I wish these fellas well.  Except when the Wings are whuppin’ up on Minny for the next ten years, of course.

Honestly, if Suter didn’t want to put on the Wheel, then I don’t want him playing for the Wings.  Plenty of other fish in the sea.  It’s going to be a huge adjustment to Life Without Nick, and Ryan fricking Suter was not going to change that.

Plus - at least it wasn’t Pitt or CHI.  Now THAT is something to be thankful for.

Posted by Denver Wings on 07/04/12 at 02:22 PM ET


Yeah, well so what? We got Mikael fuchin Samuelsson bitches.  Block his shot, I dare ya.

Posted by cementslinger from Midland MI on 07/04/12 at 02:23 PM ET


And besides, I’ve gotta say that after this me-me-me-I-deserve-to-wait-forever business

I’m sorry, is that what happened or did these guys take their time making a choice about the rest of their careers, and how and where they’re going to raise their families?

Nobody likes a crybaby.

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 02:23 PM ET


Block his shot, I dare ya.

Parise can get in Suter’s shoulders to block it…

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 02:23 PM ET


So Suter screws over Nashville for Minnesota.

How did he screw Nashville over?

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 02:24 PM ET

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Not about Money, what has Minny been saying the whole time, no one will outbid us. 

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Minny was cheauffuering Sheehy around yesterday either, while the Wings were making their pitch.

Everything about this seemed shady, go figure.

Wasn’t a fan about it yesterday.  Let’s start making some trades and filling some wholes.  Blessing in disguise, I dont’ need Lebrons on my team. 

Ryan, Nash?  Git’r done.  Welcome to being a number one D Kronwall, haha.  Going to be an interesting year for sure.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 02:26 PM ET


Garth, this is George. Bleeds red and white. Sleep deprived, and trying to get ready for trip, and under financial $. Just spent June covering a story that “failed”. Even George would I think admit, this is the “fan” part of him. Allow him a little time.

Posted by Bugsy on 07/04/12 at 02:26 PM ET


Loving it….

Mike Modano tweets:

“Can I come back and play in Minnesota too?”


Posted by shanker from Meeeeechigan on 07/04/12 at 02:27 PM ET


Garth, I bet what happened is that both of these guys were committed to playng for 2 different teams and when Minny came in and said we’ll take you both, both would not sign unless the other did, that is what took so long.  Suter was going to Detroit, Parise most likely Pitt and Minny came in a tried to make it work by fitting them both in.  In the meatime, a bunch of teams were left twisiting in the wind that really never had a shot because they could not sign both.  How would you feel if you were a GM?  Fuch ‘em

Posted by Booyah! from chicago on 07/04/12 at 02:28 PM ET

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Parise can get in Suter’s shoulders to block it…

Not unless he’s 5 feet wide of the net.

Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Uniquake, workin' on my manifesto on 07/04/12 at 02:28 PM ET


How did he screw Nashville over?

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 12:24 PM ET

Do you practice being contrary?

By all accounts Nashville was a perfect fit for him and he loved playing with Webber. How many times did you read in articles that they would circle around to the Preds? Now maybe Nashville couldn’t match the offer but I didn’t read anywhere about them getting the chance.

He’s gone to the exact same situation except a bit closer to his farm. This isn’t an upgrade except for probably financially.

Posted by Moocat on 07/04/12 at 02:28 PM ET

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Minnesota was not the only team that could sign both.  Detroit had the space as well.

Posted by monkey from Prague on 07/04/12 at 02:31 PM ET

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There’s no reason to panic in Pittsburgh, but we haven’t exactly improved our roster this offseason. Parise would have been a nice addition, though I think that defence is a greater priority right now.

Taking a run at Carle or inquiring about Weber might be the next steps, however unlikely they seem. It’ll be interesting days for Red Wings and Penguins fans alike. Perhaps a bit too interesting.

Neither Suter nor Parise signed with a division rival. That’s commendable, I think.

Posted by Moq from Denmark on 07/04/12 at 02:31 PM ET

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I wanted Suter more than Parise just because I live near Nashville and if we had gotten Suter after getting Tootoo as well, they would have come Unglued down here. I guess it’s still funny that Nashville lost Suter. I guess we get Weber next summer and watch the Preds implode.

Posted by Chris in Hockey Hell from Ann Arbor, MI but LIVING in Columbia, TN on 07/04/12 at 02:33 PM ET


98MM / 13yrs each

Posted by cementslinger from Midland MI on 07/04/12 at 02:33 PM ET

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I’m saying that it looks like he’s had his mind made up for a minute.  While D made their first pitch, the team he’s signing with it pal’ing around with his agent?  Seriously?  I can garauntee they didn’t anticipate Wings fans tracking flights.

Did Nash get a face to face when he “circled” around after fielding offers?

It was about one last payday for agents and Suter and Parise helped them out while helping themselves out.  Just wish they’d have been more forthcoming instead of grinding FAgency to a halt for a week.

Suter is a good D, but he’s not Lidas and other teams manage to Win or get the SCF without a TPH.  We have cap space to burn, let’s start signing.

I will be pissed if I hear, well I like our team.  Our big moves were signing Brunner and Sammuelsson.  We’ll have to fill holes by committee.  We have cap space to work with at the deadline.

None of that will do.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 02:35 PM ET


Minnesota was not the only team that could sign both.  Detroit had the space as well.

That’s my point, if there goal was to play together the whole time then there were only two teams that had a realistic shot.  Which tells you that someone talked the other into signing with Minny, and it tells me at had to be Parise because Suter wanted Detroit, Parise obviously didn’t, so the only other place was Minn.  If you’re Pitt or Chicago and lead to believe you had a shot for 3 or 4 days, how would you feel about the whole process?  I bet the Wings are not happy, and not because they lost out, I think they feel they had Suter.

Posted by Booyah! from chicago on 07/04/12 at 02:36 PM ET

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It’s actually amusing.  Next?

Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 07/04/12 at 12:15 PM ET


exactly Chief ...  such drama over two players who said they didn’t like media attention .. well they got in spades .. hope they enjoy it .. screw em BOTH and their especially agent for leading the Red Wings on a WILD goose chase

Posted by MsRedWingFan from West Michgian on 07/04/12 at 02:36 PM ET


Do you practice being contrary?

Do you practice being a crybaby?

Where, anywhere, did anyone read that Nashville never had a chance?  I’m sure over the four days Suter never once talked to anyone.  Let’s all just pretend that evil, moustache-twirling Ryan Suter, who EVERYONE wanted on Saturday, somehow screwed over the Predators just because he didn’t re-sign with them.

Give me a break.  Get over yourself.

Posted by Garth on 07/04/12 at 02:36 PM ET

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Posted by cementslinger from Midland MI on 07/04/12 at 12:33 PM ET

exactly, about the money.  You think even with those two on the roster for Minny they have a good enough core (who are their core again?) to win the Cup?  You think handcuffing your team for that extra 8m (highest offer I’ve seen) capwise is going to surround you with talent?  Good on’em, make your money, lose your games.  Mark down when Detroit’s coming to town and stand in awe of the red and white

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/04/12 at 02:39 PM ET

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And Parise to Wild, officially.

TooToo and Kronwall… are you listening?

Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 07/04/12 at 12:20 PM ET


Posted by MsRedWingFan from West Michgian on 07/04/12 at 02:39 PM ET

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