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How unfortunate.

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 01/10/14 at 04:53 PM ET

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The one suspension of a Wing player that most Detroit fans wouldn’t have had a problem with.

On a related note, has Hannan’s 1 game automatic suspension for an instigator in the final 5 minutes been rescinded yet?

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 01/10/14 at 05:14 PM ET

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It has Valek, I believe I posted it in the comments of the Cleary video post.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 01/10/14 at 05:18 PM ET

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The league hates our guts.

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 01/10/14 at 05:19 PM ET

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Part of me is surprised, but it’s the same as what happened to Franzen and Datsyuk and no supplemental discipline was handed out there either.

Posted by Figaro from Los Alamos, NM on 01/10/14 at 05:28 PM ET

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that was clearly a malevolent elbow. I’m surprised.

Posted by MoreShoot on 01/10/14 at 05:55 PM ET

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So the obvious conclusion is that Cleary has a compromising video of Shanahan that’s at least as bad as the ones he has of Holland and Babcock. Otherwise, there’s absolutely no justification for the DPS letting Cleary off here.

At this point, I don’t know how any player can figure out what is and what isn’t acceptable behavior on the ice. And that cheapens the sport that we all love.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 01/10/14 at 06:22 PM ET

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What a load of crap. There was nothing inadvertent about that elbow and it is worthy of suspension. It’s a shame that he skates on this because Hannan was able to get up and go after Cleary. Guess the message is it’s ok to take cheap shots as long as they don’t do too much damage.

Posted by RoneFace on 01/10/14 at 07:30 PM ET

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Guess the message is it’s ok to take cheap shots as long as they don’t do too much damage.

Same as the message is that it’s ok to instigate a fight in response in the last five minutes of a game, despite the call for that to be an automatic 1-game suspension.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 01/10/14 at 07:35 PM ET

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I thought it was cheap and at least worthy of a fine, but that’s just me.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 01/10/14 at 07:36 PM ET

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Yep. Take a dive. Sit the rest of the game and hope a suspension gets doled out

Posted by SlimChance on 01/10/14 at 07:37 PM ET

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Same as the message is that it’s ok to instigate a fight in response in the last five minutes of a game, despite the call for that to be an automatic 1-game suspension.

That comment is beneath you because you know enough to recognize that’s not what the rule is about at all.  That rule exists so teams don’t send out the goon squad in the last 3-4 minutes of a blowout to “send a message.”  While the letter of the law applies in this situation, the spirit does not. 

But let’s for a second assume that Hannan should have held back or faced suspension.  How does that solve the problem of what Cleary did?  If the league wants to get those kinds of reactions out of the game they have to be willing to come down hard on guys who go out of their way in an attempt to attack an opponent’s head.  Players have to be held accountable for their actions on the ice, either by the fists of an opponent or by league discipline.  Personally I’d rather it come from swift and severe suspensions and fines than watching two goons, neither of which was involved in the initial transgression “Settle the score” by bludgeoning each other.

Posted by RoneFace on 01/10/14 at 07:51 PM ET

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Posted by RoneFace on 01/10/14 at 07:51 PM ET

It’s entirely possible that in the NHL’s stupid logic, they considered it even because Hannan instigated a fight in response to Cleary’s elbow and that they would have punished Cleary had Hannan not reacted immediately to settle the score.

It’s a double-whammy of stupid for the NHL because what they’re doing in that is signing off on “The Code”, which is terrible for the game.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 01/10/14 at 07:55 PM ET

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It’s a double-whammy of stupid for the NHL because what they’re doing in that is signing off on “The Code”, which is terrible for the game.

Finally we agree.  My feeling is, whatever happens after the incident doesn’t excuse it, absolve it, or change it in any way.  The elbow should be taken on its own and the resulting fight shouldn’t have any impact on supplemental discipline.

Posted by RoneFace on 01/10/14 at 08:02 PM ET

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That comment is beneath you because you know enough to recognize that’s not what the rule is about at all.  That rule exists so teams don’t send out the goon squad in the last 3-4 minutes of a blowout to “send a message.”  While the letter of the law applies in this situation, the spirit does not. 

Posted by RoneFace on 01/10/14 at 07:51 PM ET

The problem is RoneFace, I don’t think the NHL itself has any clue what that rule is about.

The suspension shall be served unless, upon review of the incident, the Director of Hockey Operations, at his discretion, deems the incident is not related to the score, previous incidents in the game or prior games, retaliatory in nature, “message sending”, etc.

What Hannan did was textbook retaliation.  He only goes after Cleary because Cleary caught him in the head and he was pissed….he retaliated.  How anyone deems this not retaliatory is beyond me.  If the NHL wants to say that what Hannan did is ok because he was egregiously harmed, at what point is it not ok?  Is a crosscheck not vicious enough to retaliate, or a slash to the back of the knee?  Change the rule if you’re not going to follow it the way it’s written.

The NHL dropped the ball on both points here.  Cleary certainly needed at least a fine if not a game or two suspension.  I’m not really sure given what I assume is his first time offender.  But with Hannan,  if the NHL’s not going to follow their own rules the way they’re written I don’t know what to say.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 01/10/14 at 09:10 PM ET

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