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Red Wings won’t overspend to land free agents, don’t plan on making Flyers-style trades

Updated with evening tidbits at 6:30 PM: As we all wait for the Jaromir Jagr saga to end, the Red Wings are well aware of the fact that free agents James Wisniewski, whose rights were traded to a Columbus Blue Jackets team that sounds all too happy to toss money at him, are disappearing fast, and that pre-UFA-day signings like Tomas Kopecky’s $3 million-per-season payday from the Florida Panthers are already throwing the marketplace out of whack.

That being said, Red Wings assistant GM Jim Nill tells the Windsor Star’s Dave Waddell that the Wings won’t keep pace with their compatriots’ insanity for the sake of spending money, though they’re admittedly stunned to see Jeff Carter, Mike Richards and Brian Campbell’s gigantic contracts tossed from team to team:

“I don’t think anyone saw that coming,” Wings assistant general manager Jim Nill said. “Teams have to spend more, while that can be good and bad, they have more money and space under the cap. With more teams able to afford it, there are places to go.”
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“They (no-trades) don’t mean much now,” Nill said.“Why stay? You can at least control where you’re traded. How can you come back into a dressing room when you know they don’t want you to be part of the landscape. It would be a very difficult place.”

The Wings simply don’t plan on doing anything of the sort…

“Philadelphia wanted to change the core of their team,” Nill said. “We’d never do that with this team. “We like our core. We plan to build around it.”

And aside from adding a top-four defenseman and keeping Jonathan Ericsson—Waddell believes that the Wings are close to keeping him—the Wings just won’t do much other than probably signing a back-up goaltender:

“We need a defenceman or two depending on where their salary is at,” Wings general manager Ken Holland said. “Our nucleus is really set up front. We got to make some decisions with the 10th through the 14th forwards, we have to make a decision on our backup goalie.”
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“We won’t be spending money just for the sake of having press conferences,” Holland said. “A player will have to fit our team.”

Holland also says that there’s no way in heck that the Wings would toss money at a restricted free agent:

“It’s not philosophical,” Holland said of his reluctance to sign a RFA. “I think it’s a bit of an effort in futility because if you sign an offer sheet to a restricted at the going rate, the team is going to match. The only way you get these players is if you pay them way beyond what they’re worth. That’s really not what the cap world is all about. The cap world is about finding players that play beyond what you pay them.”

And that’s what the Wings will sell the players who are available on July 1st upon—taking less money to win regularly on a team whose ownership treats its players like kings, not bucketfuls of money.

Also of Red Wings-related note: Per the Red Wings’ Twitter account, extra tickets are now available to the team’s Social Media meet-up at the MotorCity Casino tomorrow. The Wings posted a press release about the event:

For the second straight year the 11-time Stanley Cup champion Detroit Red Wings will be taking part in one of southeast Michigan ’s most preeminent social media networking events. On Thursday, June 30, the Red Wings will participate in Social Media Day Detroit – an annual gathering of the region’s most esteemed viral internet devotees.

Officially-sanctioned by highly-regarded web culture news outlet Mashable.com, the 2011 edition of Social Media Day Detroit will be staged at the MotorCity Casino’s Sound Board Lounge tomorrow evening from 7:00 – 10:00 p.m (age restriction: 21 & older). With the theme of ‘ Detroit Rock City ’ in tow, this year’s event features several exciting elements such as a make-your-own video contest (via Youtube), a live DJ and communal tweeting galore. More information on Social Media Day Detroit can be obtained by visiting http://smdaydet2011.eventbrite.com/

“We’re thrilled to be taking part in this first-class event again this year,” says Red Wings Social Networking Manager Jake Duhaime. “Social media has provided new and exciting opportunities for fans to connect with their favorite team and we’re proud to serve them on these emerging platforms. Our efforts on social media have grown by leaps and bounds over the last year and we hope to continue building an innovative, interactive experience for our fans.”

The Red Wings’ convergent participatory online presence has expanded exponentially since last year’s Social Media Day Detroit. At the beginning of the 2010-11 NHL campaign, the team had just over 200,000 followers on Facebook; that number has nearly tripled since then thanks to a variety of integrated promotions with companies such as AT&T, DTE Energy, DMC, TGI Friday’s and Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan as well as innovative endeavors such as the successful ‘Create Your Moment’ viral video campaign that ran during Detroit’s 2011 post-season.

Five Hockeytown fan favorites were also a worldwide trending topic on Twitter this past season – forwards Darren Helm (3/28/11), Mike Modano (3/21/11), Johan Franzen (2/2/11) and Pavel Datsyuk (10/8/10) in addition to goaltender Chris Osgood (12/27/10). The Red Wings’ official Twitter feed currently has nearly 60,000 subscribers, making it by far the most popular account of any of the Motor City ’s four major professional sports franchises.

Furthermore, the Red Wings’ official Facebook page was recently named one of the top 30 such pages in professional sports by influential PR firm Activ8Social; Detroit was the highest-rated American-based NHL club on the list. Overall, more than 300 million impressions were generated from Red Wings social media channels over the course of the previous NHL season.

• We don’t need the Score’s Kent Wilson to tell us that the Wings might be willing to get a pittance back for dumping Jiri Hudler’s salary;

• As Sportsline’s Brian Stubits suggests, just about everybody in the know believes that, should Christian Ehrhoff reach the market on Friday, the Wings will try very hard to sign him;

• And the Saginaw News’s Kyle Austin reports the following:

Saginaw Spirit defenseman Brad Walch has been invited to attend the Detroit Red Wings developmental camp, giving the Thomas Township native the chance to skate for the team he rooted for growing up.

“I was always a big fan growing up, I would watch every game,” Walch said. “I was just really excited about getting invited there. They’re known as the best organization in the NHL.”

The Red Wings developmental camp is scheduled for July 7-14 at Centre ICE Arena in Traverse City.

Walch is an undrafted NHL free agent. He said he’s looking forward to the opportunity to get a taste of professional hockey and tune up for his overage season in Saginaw.

“It’s definitely a big benefit to go and see how hard you’ve got to work and prepare yourself for next season in Saginaw,” Walch said.

 

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Ducksworth's avatar

I agree about not over paying for replacements, if worst comes to worst then make a deal at the deadline if need be. The Free Agent class is not strong this year and some players on the Wings radar have already resigned with their teams (Markov, Pitkanen and Bieksa). I wouldnt mind getting Ehrhoff but only if the price is right…

Posted by Ducksworth from Brownstown, MI on 06/29/11 at 07:34 PM ET

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quack quack quack mr. ducksworth!


seriously though, it’s a huge opportunity for 3 players to step up and show what they really got.  Kindle is a 1st rounder who can QB a PP and is getting more phsyical, especially toward the end of last year.  Def more physical than Ericsson.

Ericsson has a shot to show he can live up to whatever crap raise they’re giving him b/c he sure didn’t deserve one, but when you’re born huge it’s just one of the perks.  He’s got the tools, should make his case for being involved in the Wings future.

Brendan Smith, I like how quickly his development has gone from his last year of college to now, a real possibility to make the team.  Hober Baker finalist one year, 1st team all star 1st year pro and now possibily ready to shore up the D on the big club.  Jiri Fischer-Lite is all I keep thinking when I see this guy play.  The guys skills are legit and he’s filling into his frame at 6’1” and almost 200 lbs. 

I’d be more than willing to give all those guys a go and fore-go getting a new face on the back-end, but I’d also like to do something about Hudler.  I REALLY believe that we may in fact be a little too old on the top 6.  By that I mean, Bertuzzi.  Love Squatch when he’s bring it but I think he’s at the age (not to mention the Steve Moore tragedy) where he doesn’t want to bring that nuclear deterrant everynight.  Rarely actually.  When Berts fired up, the team buzzes.  I’d like to get a younger variety of that grit that can put a few goals too.  If we get no D, I imagine that THE GENIUS would find a wa to move that Hudler salary and find that top 6 guy to push Bert

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 06/29/11 at 07:52 PM ET

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I do think that Ehrhoff will be their target if Wisniewski signs with Columbus—and it sounds like the Blue Jackets will sign him—but not at crazy money prices. If someone else tosses tons of money at Ehrhoff, or he goes back to Vancouver, there’s a secondary market that’s decent and includes more than just Ed Jovanovski…

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 06/29/11 at 07:55 PM ET

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there’s a secondary market that’s decent and includes more than just Ed Jovanovski…

That’s well and good for replacing Ericsson, but how about a real top-four guy?

Posted by Garth on 06/29/11 at 08:06 PM ET

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Matt Green is still out there, Ian White as well.  All hopes not lost yet.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 06/29/11 at 08:11 PM ET

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but I stand behind my promote from within.  I HATE when I see a team that bring up some no-name rookie and turns out he’s got a wicked wrist shot and fights and it’s like judas priest, can we please get that break since the class of Fil and Huds clearly aren’t going to wow.  I’d love to see Brendan Smith end up like Cam Fowler

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 06/29/11 at 08:13 PM ET

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This is indeed getting interesting.  Solid defence options keep dwindling, the Wings say they don’t want to over-spend, and yet there is still a need to replace Raf in the Top 4.  Ehrhoff is a decent option but he’ll likely command $6 mill on the open market (after reportedly being offered that by the NYI) and we know that Kenny won’t spend that much - which when its Ehrhoff is a very good thing.

While we weren’t expecting anything huge necessarily, their position of staying put while top d-men rights are being traded for late picks is definitely interesting - and to me, not scary.  It seems so many GMs take the short view, especially with cap being where it is, and we all know the Wings just don’t work that way.  Given the inflated - even for this time of year - contracts being handed out, maybe they’ve decided to stay on the sidelines altogether and wait for next year when Lidas will probably hang ‘em up and they get his $6.2 mill off the books.  Mike Illitch is the best owner in hockey and I’m sure he’s cautious of the new CBA coming up and what that might mean for salaries and the cap.

I really hope they don’t grab Jovo - at least give us someone under or just over 30 - but I’m thinking they’ll grab a lesser name to fill the hole for a year or two on the (relative) cheap.  Ian White stands out as a decent option right now but who knows what the market will bring on July 1.

Posted by BrendonR on 06/29/11 at 08:21 PM ET

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Wow. I am not sure what I am missing. The te lat year wasn’t good enough to make it past the second round (again) so what do we do, watch Rafalski retire and continuously state we will not overspend. Which is fine, if we are content dropping even further among competiive teams. NO ONE is asking them to blow up the core (zetts, dats, Lidstrom, or stewie, homer, howard)  but it would-be nice to see somethig done.  like to see something done to make the god damn team better. Stop saying “overpaying” the frickinh cap limit was raised, assets are worth more in this market. Good god this is so annoying. We will ice a nearly identical team with at best identical results. Hollands shine is coming off big time. He is gun shy in a very bad way. Ehroff really? That’s our big or should I say hopefully “get”.  He was a -14 on the president trophy winning team. Wr need to get a bit bigger or at least stronger. But hey mursak and emmerton will cover that right. Wait, no they won’t, they are smaller, offensive forwards and god knows we don’t have enough of those (hudler, flip). We have a boatload of money and choose to air on it bc Kenny is afrai of “overpaying”. Sweet. I hope he’s fine not seeing the later rounds of the playoffs as well.

Posted by Mike on 06/29/11 at 08:28 PM ET

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Tick. Tock.  Tick.  Tock.

Posted by monkey from Praha, Česká republika on 06/29/11 at 08:33 PM ET

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Seem to recall many posts ago something about Holland looking to fill Rafalski’s spot either by free agent <i>or by trade<i>. 

Would that trade have already happened by now and/or are the Wings hamstrung by really having only Fil and Hudler as the trade bait?

Posted by deezer on 06/29/11 at 08:36 PM ET

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That’s well and good for replacing Ericsson, but how about a real top-four guy?
Posted by Garth on 06/29/11 at 07:06 PM ET

“The cap world is about finding players that play beyond what you pay them.”

Last I checked the Wings have three top tier D-men under contract: Lidstrom (rumor has it that he’s pretty good), Stuart and Kronwall.  There are also two young players under contract, Kindl and Smith, that the organization likes quite a bit and a strong possibility of bringing Ericsson back.

The “secondary market” to which GM refers includes some pretty intriguing names like Ian White, Anton Babchuk, Andy Greene, Jan Hejda, Steve Montador…just to mention a few.  This is not a desparation situation.  Far from it.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 06/29/11 at 08:37 PM ET

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Posted by Mike on 06/29/11 at 07:28 PM ET

identical team, really?  how do you know that?

Watch all the other franchises squirm and flail year to year then sit back and thank Ken.  Shine coming off?  You know this on June 29?

ROFLMAO.

Posted by RWBill from Brush Street cruising with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 06/29/11 at 08:38 PM ET

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like to see something done to make the god damn team better.


It almost seems like they’re stockpiling cap space for a move.  I really think that with the Richards and Carter deals that we could still see trades no one saw coming.  With the Wings’ prospect depth and with Fil and Happy still on the team, a trade isn’t completely out of the question.  It’s looking highly likely Jagr signs with the Pens.  Could we see a sign and trade with Bogosion finally happen?  And I still think grabbing Cam Barker off waivers with a reduced salary would be a good move, since his next contract would pay him much less.  We all know how much the Wings like projects, only they usually don’t get one who was drafted like, 4th overall in his Bantam draft and then 3rd overall in his NHL draft and who won 2 gold medals with Canada’s World Junior team.

But all this cap space + Kenny staying put so far just reeks of cap space hoarding for, well, SOMEthing…...

Posted by BrendonR on 06/29/11 at 08:39 PM ET

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Two words: Ian. White. (that would be my choice

Posted by yzer19man from Chicago, IL on 06/29/11 at 08:53 PM ET

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Last I checked the Wings have three top tier D-men under contract

You’re right, they do.  And they have two completely unproven defensemen under contract too.  And if they keep Ericsson, that’s three unproven defensemen.

Nobody’s ever going to confuse that type of lineup as being elite.

With the amount of time he took to make up his mind this year, I don’t think anyone would be surprised if this was Lidstrom’s last year, so if the Wings don’t sign a bona-fide top-four guy this year (ie. for something more than a single year) then that means they would have to fill TWO top-four spots next year, while also re-signing Kronwall and Stuart.  That’s a pretty friggin tall order for one year, and next year’s pool doesn’t look overwhelmingly good as it is…

Posted by Garth on 06/29/11 at 08:55 PM ET

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I love it.  Wings make their own path to success. 

Peer pressure?  What fauxing peer pressure???

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 06/29/11 at 09:01 PM ET

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Tick. Tock.  Tick.  Tock.

Posted by monkey from bat country on 06/29/11 at 07:33 PM ET

This.

Posted by MsRedWinger from Flori-duh on 06/29/11 at 09:09 PM ET

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continuously state we will not overspend. Which is fine, if we are content dropping even further among competiive teams.

But here’s the thing. Do you overpay a couple of guys and hope to hell they don’t get injured come playoffs when all you’ve got to back em up is scrubs? Or do you spend more moderately, spread the talent around and give yourself a chance to weather the inevitable injuries.

Wings have followed the latter plan time and time again. Roll 4 lines, play 6 D as much as possible. I don’t expect that philosophy to change now, and nor should it. Depth is the better percentage chance.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 06/29/11 at 09:13 PM ET

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As much as all the big trades have got me wound up, hoping that the Wings will announce something mind-blowing - i recognize there’s a lit of cross-currents going on. Eaves & Miller want a bigger role more than they want big money- we’ve got Murzak and Emmerton out of waiver options - and Drapes anxious to play (and i believe he’s still got good hockey in him) - how do you add a ‘top six’ forward and still keep Patty Eaves at least playing regularly? Which assets do you let go, in exchange for what? Flip? Huds? Abby? Clears? And next year, when Bert and Homer eyeball retirement? And are we deep enough at center?

Cripes, if that isn’t hard enough, what about the D? How many D-men should we carry?  Kindl, i like. Do we bury Smith, or let him work with Lidas for a year? Do we need a top four guy - or a couple of guys like White who can allow us to rotate anyone that needs a mental reset? (like ya, Big E, but). Will E even be back?

And how do we live up to Lidstrom’s expectations for the team?

Not to mention: What happens with the new CBA? Lots of teams are gonna implode, saddled down with big dollar long term contracts, if the cap drops $10mil or more. (This year’s dollar glut is bad, very bad.)

Knowing the organization will consider everything & do their best, i’m just gonna enjoy the anxiety and see what happens. And holler for the Cup when the pucks start droppin’. Go Wings!

Posted by jmac on 06/29/11 at 09:45 PM ET

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Everyone freak out!

Posted by moocat on 06/29/11 at 09:47 PM ET

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In Tick Tock I trust.  I’m sure he’s got a plan…and 5 other back-up plans in case the first doesn’t pan out.

Posted by Forlorn in VA on 06/29/11 at 09:51 PM ET

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You let Patty Eaves play regularly, let Drapes coach (in some facility), bring in Mursak and Emmerton, trade Huds AND Flip, get a top-six serious talent (maybe a point producing center) then Centers for detroit would be Z, Pav, Abby, Helm and Emmerton and possibly a mystery top 6 center (not counting that Franzen was originally supposed to be a 4th line center).. I think we’ll be ok.

That leaves us with 13 forwards and we’ll carry 8 defenseman like they said they’re thinking of doing and if we keep what we have in house to avoid cap injuries down the road that leaves us with 8 d-men in Lidas, Kron, Stu, Kindle, John E (potentially) Smith and Janik and we can get a bargain bin d-man who’ll play above his paycheck.  Being a GM is EASY smile

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 06/29/11 at 10:03 PM ET

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But here’s the thing. Do you overpay a couple of guys and hope to hell they don’t get injured come playoffs when all you’ve got to back em up is scrubs? Or do you spend more moderately, spread the talent around and give yourself a chance to weather the inevitable injuries.
-Nate A

Depends.  Overpaying for a depth player doesn’t make sense right now because the wings have plenty of them and our pick of depth players in this UFA is extremely limited.  Overpaying for one of the top defenseman in the league I can go for because we’re weak at that position and if it prevents us from signing another depth player over the next 5 years, well, I can go for that because depth shouldn’t be an issue.  Especially with Tatar, Nyquist, Smith and Kindl comming into the fold in that timeline and especially if the options at role players are extremely limited (this UFA class blows).

Posted by Chris in A^2 from Nyquist Puck Control on 06/29/11 at 10:06 PM ET

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Do you overpay a couple of guys and hope to hell they don’t get injured come playoffs when all you’ve got to back em up is scrubs? Or do you spend more moderately, spread the talent around and give yourself a chance to weather the inevitable injuries.

First off, I’m just going to say that this quote is absolute INSANITY to me.  Don’t spend the money because guys might get injured?  That’s ridiculous, you can’t assume that you know there are going to be big injuries to the team and you can’t build a team planning for injuries.  AND if you DO have big injuries then the players can go on LTIR and you can use that cap space.

But onto the actual subject of overpaying, here’s the problem. 

With the exception of the back-up goalie position, the Wings ARE going to overpay.  Really, the only way they don’t overpay is if they simply don’t sign anyone and go into the season with 17 players on the roster.

If they don’t re-sign Patrick Eaves, they’re not going to sign someone as good as him for what they paid him last year.  So, they’re going to overpay.

Many of us may not be high on Ericsson but Detroit is, and if he doesn’t re-sign then you’re not going to find someone that they like as much for as little as they want to pay him.  Therefore they’re going to overpay.

Same with Rafalski.  They got deals on Kronwall and Stuart, and you’re not going to find comparable talent for the number you’re paying them, so if you want a top-four d-man, you’re going to have to overpay.

The ONLY glaring need Detroit has is a top-four defenseman, and they’ve got over SIXTEEN MILLION in cap space.  Guess what?  This is the last year of the CBA and you’ve got SCADS of money to spend.  THIS is the year that you should be OK with overpaying.

You still want to be smart (ie. No $3M for Kopecky), but you’re going to have to overpay if you want to ice a competitive team.

So the question is, do you overpay for high end talent and ice a great team that may be near the cap or do you overpay for mediocre- to low-end talent and ice a lesser team while sleeping on top of a pile of money you didn’t spend on improving your team?

The question is, if you’re targeting James Wisnieski, do you overpay him and ice the best team you can or do you allow him to slip through your fingers and go to another team and make them better because you didn’t want to pay him a couple hundred thousand more and instead overpay for Jovocop and ice a lesser team against those more improved teams?

A couple years ago the Wings tried to play hardball with Brad Stuart and ended up signing him to more than they wanted to, overpaying him in their eyes.  I’m sure most of us are glad they decided to overpay for him instead of letting him walk, right?

Posted by Garth on 06/29/11 at 10:22 PM ET

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Overpaying for one of the top defenseman in the league I can go for because we’re weak at that position

I might agree if any of them were on the market. With the exception of Webber and possibly Doughty (which we all know aint gonna happen) , there’s not a single FA this year that I think is worthy of the $6M freed up with Rafalski’s departure. I dont’ want to overpay for the sake of overpaying and snagging some headlines.

But my original comment was directed more at those lamenting KH’s “trend” of apparently never making a significant move. Typically, we just dont have the room for that to make sense.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 06/29/11 at 10:25 PM ET

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A stud RFA is still what I’m hoping for, I don’t see the wings returning to their usual self next season without that happening.

Posted by Chris in A^2 from Nyquist Puck Control on 06/29/11 at 10:47 PM ET

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The ONLY glaring need Detroit has is a top-four defenseman, and they’ve got over SIXTEEN MILLION in cap space.

But my original comment was directed more at those lamenting KH’s “trend” of apparently never making a significant move. Typically, we just dont have the room for that to make sense.

I’ll say it again - something will happen.  Do we all believe Kenny will actually sit on $16 mill in cap space??  The 19 know when something is off, and I think the comments in George’s posts in the past couple days have shown that.

As he has said many times, “we’re a cap team”, meaning the Wings spend to the cap every year, because they do everything required to win, every year.  Last year we barely had enough space to deal with injury situations, and we lost Dr. EVille because we needed cap space for Lilja coming off LTIR the year before (obviously his inconsistency was also a big factor).  And yet so many people are worried.  Do we really think they’re going to ice a team this year with $10 mill in cap space to spare?  Are they even going to ice one with $3 mill left in cap space?  And to think of some of the angst when Lidas signed for the same $6.2 mill hit instead of taking a discount - and we all know that $6.2 is a huuuuge discount for him as it is.

One thing that really stood out during his interviews after signing that deal was how he talked to Kenny, to be assured that they would ice a competitor next year, in what could be his last year ever as a player in the NHL.  If you’re Lidas, and you see the team going into the season with mostly the same lineup plus a defenceman who is servicable playing with Stuey on the 2nd pairing, and tons of cap room, are you going to like that?  No way.  I’m sure there are very, very few people who would have more influence on what Kenny does than him.  This is far from over!

Posted by BrendonR on 06/29/11 at 10:49 PM ET

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Typically, we just dont have the room for that to make sense.

Are you looking at the same team I am?  There’s room in the roster (including a glaring hole in the top two defense pairings) and there’s more than 15 million in cap space.

How much more friggin room do you want?

The Salei signing was reasonable last year because we were up against the cap, but this isn’t even a remotely similar situation.

Posted by Garth on 06/29/11 at 10:50 PM ET

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Posted by BrendonR on 06/29/11 at 09:49 PM ET

Look, I’m a worrier, so that’s what ‘m going to do.  I’m going to be annoyed and ornery and I’m going to curse Ken Holland’s name and when, on Friday, he’s re-signed Eaves, inked a top-six forward for under market value, found a top-two defenseman for a top-four price and either re-signed Ericsson or gotten an upgrade for less than Ericsson’s asking price, I’m going to cheer and laugh and pretend I didn’t doubt him for a second.

Posted by Garth on 06/29/11 at 11:01 PM ET

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Are you looking at the same team I am?

Sure am. Are you reading everything I wrote? I said typically. This year is clearly an exception.

I don’t doubt something will happen. I just don’t expect the wings to pay $6M for a player like Wisniewski or Ehrhoff. $5M perhaps, but even that is pushing it a bit. Maybe I’m wrong and they will. I just don’t expect it.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 06/29/11 at 11:01 PM ET

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Look, I’m a worrier, so that’s what ‘m going to do.  I’m going to be annoyed and ornery and I’m going to curse Ken Holland’s name and when, on Friday, he’s re-signed Eaves, inked a top-six forward for under market value, found a top-two defenseman for a top-four price and either re-signed Ericsson or gotten an upgrade for less than Ericsson’s asking price, I’m going to cheer and laugh and pretend I didn’t doubt him for a second.

Posted by Garth on 06/29/11 at 10:01 PM ET

That’s what I like about you, Garth.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 06/29/11 at 11:04 PM ET

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Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 06/29/11 at 10:04 PM ET

I like your profile picture.

Posted by Garth on 06/29/11 at 11:09 PM ET

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Sure am.

My bad, I misunderstood your comment.

Posted by Garth on 06/29/11 at 11:30 PM ET

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over…OVER….this isn’t over.

was it over….when…the germans bombed pearl harbor ????

  ......NO….


relax…and let the big wigs,” whose job will be on the line, if the lineup sucks” make all the critical moves.

its our job to cheer, “and judge the aftermath”....

Posted by chad from albuquerque on 06/30/11 at 12:02 AM ET

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I think a lot of people are WAY over-reacting right now. The Wings are VERY competitive with the team they have right this second. This line up, if healthy, can give any team in the league a run for their money. The Red Wings don’t really need to sign anyone RIGHT NOW. Adding a free agent that may or may not fit in the system, may or may not produce points, and most defiantly will cost more than they are worth could actually hurt the team. The Wings could roll into camp tomorrow with E, Drapes, Miller, Eaves & Osgood all signed and ice a team that could win the division (if healthy). If things aren’t going well by the all-star break, then they try and make a trade that makes sense, if they don’t make the final four, there will be a much better free agent market next summer and more money to use in it. This is a long term thing, surely there will be a team next season who needs a player we have and will have a player we want.

Calm down, surely Kroner, Stewie, E, Eaves, Miller, Fil ect. can all achieve much more with bigger roles and more ice time. Many of these players haven’t really been given the chance to “max out” under Babs IMO.

Posted by christpuncher from Detroit, MI on 06/30/11 at 12:44 AM ET

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I still think Ian White is the sleeper to get signed here. He’s mobile, shows some grit, can move the puck, and had a great post season with SJ. He’ll come at 1/2 the price of The Wiz, probably in the 2.5 range, and has enough good years in him to sign him to 3 or 4. I would definately like to see then ditch happy. He’s not really a fit any more. Maybe trade contract for contract and land a guy like Clutterbuck who brings a nasty element that we’re missing. if not, then use his salary to sign a guy like ward who can fill the same role.

Posted by Mormerod on 06/30/11 at 10:15 AM ET

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