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Red Wings overnight report: the Nash story you know and a stern talking-to

This morning, the Free Press’s Helene St. James is confirming a story from the general manager’s mouth: as MLive’s Ansar Khan and the Macomb Daily’s Chuck Pleiness reported, the Red Wings did indeed attempt to make a very strong push to acquire Rick Nash from the Columbus Blue Jackets, but GM Scott Howson demurred, not wanting to see his franchise’s poster boy play for the Blue Jackets’ self-styled arch-rival.

Ken Holland did indeed make his pitch, but what was probably a better return than the one the New York Rangers sent to central Ohio went over like a practical joke at a funeral:

“I talked to Scott Howson a number of times; we did make an offer for Rick Nash,” Holland said.

The problem for the Wings was this: In order to sell the Blue Jackets on moving their franchise superstar within the Central Division, the offer would have had to be much better than New York’s. The Rangers gave Columbus centers Brandon Dubinsky and Artem Anisimov, defenseman Tim Erixon and a first-round pick. Holland didn’t want to talk names, but at the very least, a trade would have had to start with Johan Franzen or Valtteri Filppula, and from there also include Brendan Smith or Gustav Nyquist, two young players the Wings consider building blocks, plus at least one more player, and a first-round pick. The combined average salaries of the players the Rangers traded adds up almost exactly to Nash’s $7.8-million salary cap hit, but the Wings have more financial flexibility and wouldn’t have needed to worry about that aspect.

Holland said the Wings “talked and explored.” Nash, 28, has reached 40 goals twice in his career and has contributed at least 30 goals each of the past five seasons. At 6-feet-4, 220 pounds, he has the size and skill the Wings sought.

As noted on Monday night, Holland confirmed as much to the Macomb Daily’s Pleiness, too, and whoever Pleiness’s “team source” is fleshed out the offer…kind of…

And according to a source it was a “hell of an offer.” Instead the Blue Jackets dealt Nash, who requested to be traded last January, to the Rangers in exchange for forwards Artem Anisimov and Brandon Dubinsky, defenseman Tim Erixon and a first-round pick.

The Wings were one of the teams reportedly on Nash’s list that he would waive his no-movement clause, along with the Rangers, Pittsburgh, San Jose, Philadelphia and Boston. Detroit’s offer generated zero conversation. It’s not known what the Wings offered, but the source said it was “four pieces.”

And then Holland went and did the thing that seems to be sending all of you batty in suggesting that, minus Shea Weber (didn’t want to sign with an “arch-rival,” either) or possible signings in Shane Doan (still making up his mind, wants a multi-year deal), Alex Semin (see: it’s hard enough to negotiate with a former 40 goal-scorer and convince him that all the red flags surrounding his commitment mean he’s not going to get a huge payday; it’s even harder to negotiate with his agent, crazy Mark Gandler, who’s sent players like Evgeny Artyukhin, Alexander Svitov and yes, Alexei Yashin to Russia because Gandler believes that every client is worth half a gabillion dollars) or any of the potential unrestricted free agent forward (Petr Sykora, Knuble, Jason Arnott, Jochen Hecht, Andrei Kostitsyn and Eric Fehr) or defensive (Scott Hannan, Pavel Kubina, Carlo Colaiacovo, Milan Jurcina, Cam Barker, Jaroslav Spacek and Matt Gilroy) band-aids…

Holland is OK with his team in its current guise…

“As I look at our team today, we’re real excited about our goaltending. We’ve got a 27-year-old guy in Jimmy Howard, who has three years of NHL experience under his belt. We have a 28-year-old guy in Gustavsson that’s got a couple of years in Toronto in him. I believe as a goaltender your best years are probably from 27 and 28 years of age all the way up to 34, that’s when you’ve got your combination of skill and experience. As I look at our team upfront we’re happy with the addition of Tootoo and Samuelsson,” Holland added. “If (Gustav) Nyquist was on any other NHL team in the league they’d give him a chance. We’re going to give him a chance.”

He harbors no regrets regarding his team’s attempt to land Ryan Suter…

“I feel fine with how free agency has gone,” Holland said. “We went in with a game plan. We’re very happy with what happened on July 1.”

And yet, at the same time, Holland does indeed plan to aggressively pursue each and every avenue by which he can improve his team, which probably includes both playing the waiting game with Doan—and as I posted while writing this entry, it now sounds like Doan will be making visits to the serious suitors for his services with perhaps more urgency over the next week or two—Semin and other free agents, as well as exploring trades for Keith Yandle, Jay Bouwmeester and, thanks to yet another player not wanting to play in Long Island, Lubomir Visnovsky:

“We made a decision to target some high profile players, we pursued them and unfortunately we weren’t able to make it happen,” Holland said. “There were circumstances involved. We’re going to continue going forward drafting, developing and expecting to be a playoff team. We’ve got to give some young kids an opportunity.

“We’re going to explore, either through trade or free agency, making a move or two between now and training camp,” Holland continued. “We’re going to see over the next six weeks if we can make something else happen.”

Again, Holland has a couple of tricky challenges ahead of him given that:

1. Shane Doan appears to be the main domino here in terms of the only real “plan B” on the market for the teams that struck out on Parise, and until Doan makes his decision as to whether he’ll remain with Phoenix or sign with another team, not much will happen, especially given that Semin is “plan C”;

2. The honest truth of the matter regarding all the other remaining free agents is that they’re not “alternatives” as much as they are “leftovers,” but given the fact that so few of them have signed, it’s painfully obvious that their agents are insisting that now the two five-pound lobsters are gone from the casino buffet, the Fillet Mignon isn’t sure whether he wants to be served, or to which table he’s going, and the slightly questionably smelly whole salmon comes with a requirement that you eat the whole damn fish, scales, bones and all, there are miles and miles of yesterday’s Swedish meatballs left, but that’s all, and the casino’s still expecting you to pony up $25 for said reheated meatballs;

3. As noted yesterday, with Valtteri Filppula, Jimmy Howard, Ian White, Danny Cleary, Drew Miller and Damien Brunner qualifying for unrestricted free agency next summer and Brendan Smith, Gustav Nyquist, Jan Mursak, Jakub Kindl and a host of other prospects coming off their entry-level deals and becoming restricted free agents under what is almost certain to be a lower cap and a much more restrictive environment in terms of contractual flexibility, the Red Wings cannot afford to overspend this summer to find themselves without the cap space to re-sign a 65-point-scorer in Filppula, their starting goalie, someone who is, at this point, their #2 defenseman, the organization’s two top NHL-playing prospects or any other player the team plans on retaining a year from now;

4. It also bears saying, perhaps for the first time, that nobody’s going to do anything until they find out what the Philadelphia Flyers and Nashville Predators do about the Shea Weber offer sheet.

If the Predators match, that’s one thing; if the Flyers work out a trade, that’s another entirely, and if the Flyers just surrender draft picks?

Well, then you’ll have a team with no cap space, even given Chris Pronger’s likely cap relief as he may not start the season on a blueline already populated by seven other defensemen on a team that currently has to re-sign a restricted free agent in Jakub Voracek and round out the rest of its roster with $7.8 million in cap space sans Weber. And you’ve got a team that will have defensemen and possibly forwards available on the trade market;

5. Whatever happens to Lubomir Visnovsky, whose agent, Neil Sheehy (yes, Ryan Suter’s agent) has filed a grievance with the NHLPA insisting that his client’s trade to the New York Islanders violated the no-trade clause Visnovsky had with Anaheim, will also perk GM’s ears’ up;

6. And the fact that the NHL’s first proposal was met with, “Okay, so how would this work as applied to current players?” instead of, “Okay, well you’ve forced our hand, here’s our counter-proposal” from the NHLPA has clearly put a damper on things, and with CBA negotiations slated to take a full week’s break after the meetings today, tomorrow and Thursday in Toronto (I believe the CBA negotiations resume during the first full week of August), we might find even less impetus from NHL teams to pick through the leftovers.

Long story short?

The Red Wings will continue to examine their trade options and will be talking with the agents of each and every one of the UFA players they’re interested in, maybe on an every-day basis given how incredibly thorough Holland, Jim Nill and Ryan Martin tend to be, but there is absolutely no need for the team to make a move until Doan makes his decision, the Weber offer sheet plays out, we find out whether Visnovsky’s going to be another pissed-off Islander and, very possibly, whether this week will tell us if there’s a lockout in the offing (though that is doubtful).


This has led to a November gale’s worth of Sturm und Drang from Wings fans as we are terrible at waiting and are worried as can be about the team’s ability to recover from the losses of Nicklas Lidstrom, Brad Stuart, Jiri Hudler (Mikael Samuelsson’s more or less a wash there) and, most likely, Tomas Holmstrom, with St. James offering updates on both Holmstrom and Doan...

The Wings still haven’t talked to Tomas Holmstrom regarding his future, but there really isn’t room on the roster for Holmstrom, 39, and he’s expected to retire this summer. .... The Wings remain in waiting mode on unrestricted free agent Shane Doan, whose top choice is to stay in Phoenix.

And with all of that being said, and admitting that yes, I am also scared about what the team I support is going to do, what that team will look like when the season starts, whether that team may have to wait until the regular season begins to sort out a deal (the Wings don’t have a whole lot of leverage right now), or how well the team as it currently stands will manage to compete for the Central Division title and a playoff spot this season…

Y’all need to calm the f*** down.

Given the statements made in the comments section of this blog over the past month, I’ve done my best to remove all sharp objects as many of you seem to want to impale yourselves on whatever’s handy, and I’ve invested in some virtually padded floors as many of you have sprained or broken your ankles jumping off the bandwagon—at this point, I’m honestly surprised that the more virulent and militant Holland critics, who suggested that the Red Wings forfeited every game until the 2022-2023 season and won’t make the playoffs ever, ever again when the team didn’t make a move at the trade deadline, haven’t burned your Wings gear in protest, and more and more of you seem to be joining the ranks of the, “Wings are old and busted, I quit, I want to watch a winning team, when does Lions season start?” club each day.

But despite everything that the more steadily-constituted Wings fans have said, despite anything I’ve said, the vast majority of you are beginning to genuinely scare me.

And I don’t make that statement lightly.

I’m not going to tell you where or when or why, but I have seen the psych ward. I have seen the padded room, albeit from the outside. And I’ve seen the kind of people who need to be in the padded room, and have witnessed the behavior that consigns them to spending hours in a room that is essentially four walls, a ceiling and a floor full of the kind of padding used in kids’ gym classes, with nothing more than a waterproof mattress and no window save the one in the door locked from the outside.

That’s a scary place. Frankly, the psych ward is a scary place, and just going as a visitor is the kind of thing that leaves a stark impression. And there are times I genuinely worry about some of you, because the amount of virtual waling, gnashing of teeth and foaming at the mouth is just utterly ridiculous right now, to the point that some of you genuinely sound not just disturbed about a sports team, but disturbed, period.

It’s got to stop. It’s one thing to vent your frustrations and passionately disagree and even argue, but if being a Wings fan without Nicklas Lidstrom is this damn painful for you, and you’re going to do more than just turn into trolls and bullies, instead choosing to do your best to slam-dance along the four walls of the comments section when anyone dares suggest that the Wings might win a game?

You either need to count to ten before you write, take a five-minute break, throw something soft at the wall or, in some instances, find another team or another sport. This s*** is getting utterly stupid.

While I am well aware of the fact that the wait is intolerable, and that this is a scary, scary summer for fans who live vicariously through a sports team they have passionately followed and expected nothing less than Stanley Cups from on an every-season basis, and simply will not pay to follow if that standard should slip minus Nicklas Lidstrom, especially if the team dares to “settle” for second best…

I know crazy. I know crazy very well. Mental illness runs in my damn family, I deal with depression and an anxiety disorder and I probably narrowly averted a depressive episode over the last week, and am in a lot of plain old physical as well as mental discomfort right now because of it.

And when I venture into the comments section, some of the more fatalistic members of this community are making me sound well-adjusted.

Put simply, if you’re going to spazz out like a rabid monkey or a little kid throwing a tantrum for every second that the Wings’ management land the Ryan Suters, Rick Nashs, Shew Webers, Bobby Ryans, Alex Semins, Shane Doans, etc. of the world?

Calm the f*** down or get off the God-damned bandwagon for good, hawk your Wings stuff on eBay and find something else to occupy your discretionary time and income.

This is probably the hardest summer Wings fans have faced since 2006, and maybe I’m going to regret not just posting the news and my opinion, but also offering, “Y’all got to check yo self before you wreck yo self” suggestions…

But Jeebus Monkey, people, this is getting out of hand, and as much as these entries go out and become yours, and as much as dissent and faith with doubt are all part and parcel of being passionate sports fans, and as much as this summer seems like a long wait in a packed Secretary of State office without any air conditioning, and as thick as my skin’s gotten to personal attacks over the six years I’ve been doing this professionally and the twelve years I’ve been writing about hockey in one way or another on message boards or blogs, you’re certainly allowed to yell at me all the damn hell you want to, because it’s my job to take it.

If you’re going to continue to take it out on each other, however, especially as virulently and viciously as some of you have of late, you need to go and find something else to do with your time, because this level of dripping venom from bared fangs s*** is just borderline nuts.

Or, as some of my friends like to say, there’s the “good crazy” and the “bad crazy,” and the “bad crazy” is both spreading and not particularly healthy for anyone.

I knew more than a few people who got off the bandwagon for good when Sergei left. Even more who decided that the Wings without Stevie and Shanny weren’t the Wings. And if Nick’s the turning point for something that has perhaps become a fading passion or pastime for you over the past couple of seasons, there is no attendance taken on the bandwagon and there is no rule compelling you to stay.

I’m here for the duration of the ride, as uncomfortable, bumpy and certain as it’s become this summer. You don’t have to be if you don’t want to be. I certainly won’t think any less of you if it’s your choice to leave. But if you’re going to stay, you’re going to have to find a way to use the comments section as what it’s supposed to be—a coping mechanism for a community following the ups and downs of a team they follow with a passion and care for and care about very deeply.

We’re all intelligent adults here, and this padded room stuff is unnecessary. If it’s come to that for you, decide what you want to do as is best for your own sporting and personal well-being.

Those of us who will be around till the end understand if you need to take a break, or if you want to make a clean break entirely. And in the interim, we’re gonna keep trying to find a way to cope with this maddening uncertainty while gently peeling each other off of the walls and ceiling.

I’m sorry to go off on a rant like this, but the tone and content of some of what I’ve seen has genuinely disturbed me, and I while I can deal with being disturbed, I don’t want to see any of you having to deal with that kind of discomfort. It’s an awful feeling and I don’t wish it upon anyone.

Addendum: I don’t mean to sound like a schoolteacher or something, but I feel a responsibility to step into discussions I generally try to avoid (again, once something’s posted, it’s yours to do with as you wish; I’m just a discussion-starter hoping that my peers as Wings fans and people I respect as intelligent and well-informed individuals want to engage in a discussion about what’s going on with their favorite team) if I feel that the community I hope this blog creates is in danger, and this community seems stressed and strained to the breaking point this morning. I neither want to see you in the kind of pain many of you appear to be in, nor do I want to see you act said discomfort out upon each other.

Me, yell at me all you want, that’s my job. Don’t take it out on each other, please. I’m going to shut up now and try to keep it as “news-y” as possible for the next little while, but if things start getting to be like a psych ward, I will not hesitate to do this again. That’s not the kind of atmosphere I want in my blog’s comments section, and it may be my job to tolerate that kind of tone and rancor, but it should not also be the community’s burden.

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i do wish we would sign semin. i know his agent is batty but he really seemed to find his form on that line with pasha this summer. i know pavel brings the best out in people but semin’s best sure can be alot.

Posted by LordsofOlympia on 07/24/12 at 12:23 PM ET

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Wait…what? RWBill hacked my account.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/24/12 at 12:24 PM ET

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tis is fun grin

who the f are you george to tell us what to expect, really?!  this team has no #1 pairing the #2 pairing would have troubles to keep up with 3rd or 4th lines of other team. smith and kronwall playing against chicago’s top line, haha sure. don’t you relize that lidström was the only reason in recent years high profile players didn’t score twice in each game against the wings? 
so how the hell you get that idea that the red wings will be ok? suter chose family? yeah sure and the the 10 mil more over 13 years were a factor, yeah believe every word holland tells you. he is a business man and like other business men he lies to people who trust him. it’s quite naive to think he tells us the truth and not what we want to hear…

uncle mike is the one who works with this team almost every day and I don’t recall him saying “I feel good about our team”. of course I’m worried! who are the real top players we have? kronwall, pasha, z and that’s it. weber and suter handled everything the wings threw at them with ease expect in one game

who knows if there will be season 2013? when men wearing ties argue about money I expect nothing good out of it.

Posted by Joe Z. from Austria on 07/24/12 at 12:30 PM ET


The other thing to keep in mind is that as a whole, no team in the Central has gotten markedly better this summer.

STL: Stagnant rosterwise. Odds that Elliott/Halak play like they did last year?
CHI: Stagnant rosterwise. Still have terrible goaltending and lack of offensive depth.
DET: Beaten to death enough here I’d say.
NSH: Even if they do keep Weber, what’s going to happen to his numbers without Suter there to back him up? And if Weber goes? Have fun Pekke, your team’s going to be counting on you to steal a lot of games this year.
CLB: Really?

So why can’t the Wings make the playoffs and even contend for the Central? I don’t see any clear-cut favorites in that group unless STL gets the same level of play out of their career journeyman #1 goalie that they got last year.

Posted by RyanVM from Philly on 07/24/12 at 12:30 PM ET


Scott Howson got some decent players back for a player that had control over where he could be traded. Time will tell how this trade works out but Scott Howson was smart to not trade to Wings. His object is to get into the playoffs and trading Nash to Wings would make that object even harder to accomplish. Scott Howson has a balanced team in a Central Division where Wings and Preds are weaker than last year. I understand Wings fans are mad at Holland but there is not much he could do this year. Minnesota had the family aspect, Rangers had the out of conference aspect. All hope is not lost, Wings could still get Semin.

Posted by Puckbubba from FL. on 07/24/12 at 12:32 PM ET

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I agree with much of what you wrote in this particular blog - However, I live in Columbus and read Blue Jackets blogs, and believe me when I say that the responses you’ve been receiving from fans on this blog are nothing in comparison. You want “sky is falling” - go the comments on Aaron Portzline’s puck-rakers blog. Blue Jackets fans have WAY more legitimate reasons to post these type of things, and let’s all be thankful that we are fans of the Detroit Red Wings.

Posted by bdos from Columbus, OH on 07/24/12 at 12:37 PM ET


If Kenny fails to woo Doan/Semin to Detroit then Alexei Kovalev who is looking to sign with an NHL team could provide some solid veteran presence. At least he could be an upgrade over Bert.

Posted by Alex on 07/24/12 at 12:37 PM ET

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Posted by RyanVM from Philly on 07/24/12 at 11:30 AM ET

Optimistic perhaps, but I agree with your analysis.  The whole central division got worse or didn’t improve.  This will be a very winnable division for Detroit. 

St. Louis will be tough this season to be sure, but I like you said, their goaltending was hot last year.  I think Elliot and Halak caught lightning in a bottle, I don’t think they’ll do it twice.  Furthermore, I’m still waiting for the trademark Hitchcock-coached-team implosion as well.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 07/24/12 at 12:40 PM ET


Furthermore, I’m still waiting for the trademark Hitchcock-coached-team implosion as well.

Posted by bezukov from Nasburgum delenda est. on 07/24/12 at 11:40 AM ET

I was thinking the same thing as well. Hitch tends to wear out his welcome with players before too long.

Posted by RyanVM from Philly on 07/24/12 at 12:48 PM ET


Furthermore, I’m still waiting for the trademark Hitchcock-coached-team implosion as well.

Posted by bezukov from Nasburgum delenda est. on 07/24/12 at 11:40 AM ET

It seems to come quicker with each new team he coaches.  He wore out his welcome in Columbus in record time.  Only Mike Keenan (hmm, I wonder what he’s up to, some crazy team always takes a chance on him every few years) is able to alienate players faster.

Posted by henrymalredo from Lansing on 07/24/12 at 12:54 PM ET

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LOL at all the folk who got their panties in a bunch when george told to calm the f down.

Evidence this is a football/baseball town instead of a hockeytown.

Posted by Keyser S. on 07/24/12 at 12:59 PM ET

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LOL at all the folk who got their panties in a bunch when george told to calm the f down.

Evidence this is a football/baseball town instead of a hockeytown.

Posted by Keyser S. on 07/24/12 at 11:59 AM ET

I’m not following you here. What is the evidence? I’ve listened to the radio which talks football/baseball/basketball all the time and the fans sound a lot worse that just “getting their panties in a bunch.” Unless that’s your evidence?

Posted by Bradley97 on 07/24/12 at 01:12 PM ET

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I’m on this site every day and I really haven’t seen any comments that warrant the outburst that George just blasted our way. I’m thinking that maybe some hyperbole gets misconstrued as vitriol. At any rate, chill out, George. What you just wrote is more offensive than 99% of the comments I’ve read. Primarily because it was personal and directed at specific people, who I’m guessing know who they are. I’m ok reading someone’s strongly worded opinion about the performance of the team, a player, a GM or whatever. But don’t go judging us as people by what we write in a fanblog.

And really, the KH supporters and bashers (were it that black&white;) both have good points.

The anti-Ken crowd will point out that he swung and missed on nearly every important pitch this summer. And they’re right.

The pro-Ken crowd will point out that he’s kept them competing at a high level for nearly a generation. And they’re right.

His hits far outweigh his misses over the duration. But as Janet Jackson would say, or Ms. Jackson to the anti-Ken crowd, what have you done for me lately? So if a few want to vent about the worst summer as a Red Wings fan in 20 years, let them. It doesn’t mean they love the team less. And if they do, f**k’em, they’ll be gone from here soon enough.

Posted by awould on 07/24/12 at 01:29 PM ET

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No bradley, you’re right. The thought process of now having a good football and baseball team and the fans excuse to put their energies there in conjunction with holland not being able to improve the team this off season even given his best efforts got deflected elsewhere.

Reading the rw forums since july 1st has been nauseating though. We’re not going to be as good as before all due to this parity thing. Oh well. Point is, who would’ve thought l.a. would win the stanley cup this year after barely making the playoffs (besides me wink I believe we still have a good team. We’re not going to plow through teams like the last few 10 years, but we’re still a good and ENTERTAINING team. Be a fan. That’s all I’m saying. PEACE!

Posted by Keyser S. on 07/24/12 at 01:36 PM ET

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Meh, it’s George’s blog and he is right, you know.  But sorry George, redheads are still hotter than you.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/24/12 at 01:37 PM ET

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Back to hockey talk.

I’d offer Semin 10 years $50 M and tell him he’s purchasing an adjusting NTC for the other $20 M he wants. I’d break the contract down as follows:

Age Reg. Season - Age Playoffs - Contract

28-29 yr 1. $7 M, full NTC
29-30 yr 2. $7 M, full NTC
30-31 yr 3. $6 M, NTC to all but 5 teams
31-32 yr 4. $5 M, NTC to all but 10 teams
32-33 yr 5. $5 M, NTC to all but 15 teams
33-34 yr 6. $5 M, NTC to 10 teams
34-35 yr 7. $5 M, NTC to 5 teams
35-36 yr 8. $4 M
36-37 yr 9. $3 M
37-38 yr 10. $3M

He gets $20 Million the first 3 years, $20 Million the next 4 years, and $10 Million the final 10 years when he is unprotected. The length and selling the NTC should get the cap hit down to $5 M. Even if Gandler is nuts I doubt there is a team at this moment that would give Semin a contact like this with protection. I don’t get the negative smack about Semin. He wants to play in all situations and sacrificed himself defensively to block shots in the playoffs. Unlike Ovechkin, Semin seems willing to buy into a system, so why not take the chance and give Houdini his assistant?

Posted by Bradley97 on 07/24/12 at 01:45 PM ET

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Posted by Keyser S. on 07/24/12 at 12:36 PM ET

Totally agree.  cool smile

Posted by Bradley97 on 07/24/12 at 01:50 PM ET


“as some of my friends like to say, there’s the “good crazy” and the “bad crazy,” and the “bad crazy” is both spreading and not particularly healthy for anyone.”

Now that all us “crazy people” have been scolded I think there is a need to address the one “bad crazy” that is Ken Holland. Like many fans the lack of activity is frustrating to say the least. The stuff that really makes my eyes bulge and want to tear the hair out of my own scalp is the ridiculous comments that Holland makes, for example:

“I feel fine with how free agency has gone,” Holland said. “We went in with a game plan. We’re very happy with what happened on July 1.”

REALLY HOLLAND?!?!? You’re fine with two top Dmen walking away from the team, losing Hudler’s offense and having every desirable free agent basically thumb his nose at you and the Red Wings this summer?

Now I can’t speak for every fan but it’s those comments that drive me up a wall. No I don’t think Holland needs to run around like Chicken Little screaming about the sky falling but the simple fact that K.H. seems to be devoid of any and all urgency and continues to try and spit shin the few moves he did make every chance that he gets is infuriating. This summer the Wings came into free agency with an unprecedented amount of money and SERIOUS needs and I think K.H. has done little to nothing to address any of these needs. It appears to me that K.H. continues to think that the Detroit Red Wings organization will sell itself and that low-ball offers to free agents will get the job done and if it doesn’t Holland gives us fans a shrug of his shoulders and gives us his go to phrase, “we like our team”.

Now the word on the street is that K.H. seems to have some inside information that the new CBA is going have some type of rollback in the salary cap and the Wings will reap the rewards of most teams having to cut players and their payroll. Hey and if that doesn’t happen, fear not loyal fans because there is always the trade deadline and NEXT summers crop of free agents! Didn’t we hear the same song and dance last summer after the big signings were Ian White and overpaying Ericsson? Ridiculous and unacceptable…

So pardon me Mr. Malik if I don’t want to calm the f*** down.

Posted by Mizzle31 on 07/24/12 at 02:09 PM ET

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But don’t go judging us as people by what we write in a fanblog.

Well, it’s George’s blog and he is just saying that his comment section is kind of going down the drain….and that’s fair ball.

a Dead Wing’s fan. Pun intended.

Sorry to go English Prof here, but that ain’t no pun.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 07/24/12 at 02:10 PM ET

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losing Hudler’s offense

Now that he’s gone, can we start to admit that this a very limited player that kind of sucks and was frustrating all year?  Seriously, rookie or not, I have a very tough time believing that Nyquist can’t fill Hudler’s very small shoes.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 07/24/12 at 02:13 PM ET


I’m just baffled by the Nash trade. I understand the dollar-for-dollar aspect of the trade, but Howson could have easily made a demand for another top-tier prospect and/or more draft picks. Howson is either A) a moron who doesn’t comprehend the pressure on Sather to deliver to his ginormous fan base - to which he would have easily pulled the trigger on a steeper asking price. Or, B) Howson was paying back a favor of some sort. Unbelievable steal by NYR.

The Wings will be fine. If they do miss the playoffs this year, which I don’t think they will, it will be for the better. This FA pool was by far the worst in my accessible memory. I’d like to see KH just go out and sign Semin to a $12mil/2-year deal, but if he’s content with the roster there doesn’t appear to be any room without moving someone.

Posted by Jesters Dead on 07/24/12 at 02:15 PM ET

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a Dead Wing’s fan. Pun intended.

Sorry to go English Prof here, but that ain’t no pun.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 07/24/12 at 01:10 PM ET

a dead Wing’s fan.

tongue wink

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!! In ‘13

Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 07/24/12 at 02:35 PM ET

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Posted by Jesters Dead on 07/24/12 at 01:15 PM ET

I think Howson needed to bring home Callahan or Del Zotto on top of what he got to make it a successful trade.  This trade was supposed to give the Jackets momentum going in to next season.  Howson shifted them into neutral before they even got started.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 07/24/12 at 02:41 PM ET

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A pun is a coincidence of the literal and figurative.
This is the literal coinciding with a rhyme.  A rhyme is figural, but only sort of.
Not too bad.  Just a pet peeve I paid about $40,000 for so that I can be an *#$%@& about speech.
Sorry to f*ck with you.
I agree with your attitude.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 07/24/12 at 02:44 PM ET

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Bear in mind, KH isn’t going to display any doubt, disappointment, or angst.  As a manager, he acts as a face of the franchise.  Although he may be disappointed in the off-season, it is not something he can speak of or display.  To do this would kill our chances recruiting players. 

Can you imagine a disgruntled General Manager courting FA’s like Doan?  It isn’t going to persuade them into coming.

Posted by TreKronor on 07/24/12 at 04:22 PM ET

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He’s not going to retire. He’s going to stay on LTIR for the rest of that contract.

How Prongerian.

Posted by monkey from Prague on 07/24/12 at 09:02 PM ET

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Now that he’s gone, can we start to admit that this a very limited player that kind of sucks and was frustrating all year?  Seriously, rookie or not, I have a very tough time believing that Nyquist can’t fill Hudler’s very small shoes.

If Nyquist can play in 81 games at 15-16 minutes every night, score 25 goals and 25 assists along the way, AND lead the team in shooting percentage, I’ll cream my jeans.

Posted by monkey from Prague on 07/24/12 at 09:06 PM ET

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I’ll cream my jeans.

Banana cream?
Well, those stats put it into perspective, but seriously, whining about the loss of that little shadow that people whined about every game is needling me.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 07/24/12 at 10:48 PM ET


In order for the wings to have a solid season we must have TWO players up for the Calder Trophy and jimmy plays all year like he did pre-broken finger of last year.  Is this possible?  Not likely.

Our big saving grace is that the central div took a big hit across the board.

I don’t agree at all that if the salary cap comes down, we will magically get a solid def-man in a salary dump trade or buy out.  Think about this, if the wings had to dump a forward or buy someone out who would it be?  Someone like Fils or Cleary plus Eaves?  This is just assuming the need to clear three million in cap space. People assume that the other teams are going to be dumping a player of Fils level.  That’s not the case; they will be dumping the bad contracts or player with injury question marks.

I hope KH can work a trade—prospects be damned!

Posted by 11B3PF7 in MN on 07/24/12 at 11:33 PM ET

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