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Red Wings mid-day news: on ‘Lidstrom smash,’ trade rumors and booing Fedorov

If you missed it in the overnight report, former Red Wings captain Nicklas Lidstrom took part in a Swedish TV show called “Patrik möter,” or “Patrick Meets,” and he kinda got a little smash-y on a Volvo with a baseball bat, per Patrik Sjoberg’s request:

As noted this morning, according to Expressen’s Jonatan Lindquist, Nicklas Lidstrom will get out of character on Swedish TV:

Lidstrom crushes myths about himself

You’ve never seen Nicklas Lidstrom [like this] before.

In tonight’s episode of “Patrick Meets” on TV3 at 21:00, “Mr. Perfect” lets loose with a bat on a car, sends a psych-out at Mats Sundin—and explains why guests at his wedding had to pay at the bar.

“It was because of [Tommy] Salo,” Lidstrom says on the program.

Nicklas Lidstrom is one of the greatest hockey players and he’s won all there is to win. He’s always been known as an almost unparalleled gentleman, both on and off the ice. In Detroit, he was nicknamed “Mr. Perfect” by teammates Kris Draper and Chris Osgood.

But Patrik Sjoberg does his best to dispel that myth. First, Lidstrom will tell you about the time he went into a rage at Tomas Holmstrom

“Went into the car and shouted”

“We’d bought coffee on the way to a game and I was a bit stressed. Holmstrom said it was clear to go and wen I turned left, we got into an accident. I was really angry at both him and myself. I went out and checked that the girl [involved] was okay, but then I went into the car and shouted a little.”

Sjoberg tries to provoke Lidstrom’s anger through various challenges—including a quiz on bumper cars, where it’s revealed that Lidstrom doesn’t know the blogger Kissie, or who is leading “Allsång på Skansen.” Sjoberg also allows Lidstrom to beat on an old Volvo with a bat, something that the rarely-angered Lidstrom gladly does.

“Salo made me…”

In the end, everything comes to a head when Sjoberg puts the question of a rumor that circulated in the hockey world during recent years to Lidstrom—that the guests had to pay their costs at multi-millionaire Nicklas Lidstrom’s wedding reception.

“You’re absolutely right, it was (Tommy) Salo that dared me to do it. It was my way of sticking it to him.”

And there’s a psych-out with Mats Sundin.

First, Sjoberg asks Lidstrom if he’d like to sit at the bar and compare Stanley Cup rings with Sundin (Lidstrom has four, Sundin none)

“No, I have too much respect for ‘Sudden.’ But I’d sit at the bar with him, have a beer or drink and talk about hockey.”

Psych-out No to “Sudden”

Eventually, however, there’s a psych-out, when Sjoberg takes out Lidstrom’s four rings.

“Hey ‘Sudden,’ this is how four Stanley Cup rings look,” says Lidstrom as he greets the camera.

Sjoberg also leaves a trace on Detroit—a nameplate in Lidstrom’s old place in the locker room says, “Sjoberg 242.”

Aftonbladet has also posted a video from the show…

And Aftonbladet’s Johan Renvall offered a summation thereof:

Here comes Lidas with a baseball bat

Crushes car windows on TV3’s “Patrik Meets”

In tonight’s episode of “Patrik meets” on TV3, viewers will see Nicklas Lidstrom, 42, as they’ve never seen him before.

The legendary defenseman takes a baseball bat in his hand and is told to do whatever he wants.

Lidas ten goes off on a car and smashes windows as if he could do nothing else.

It’s in “Patrik meets,” as former high jumper Patrik Sjoberg, 47, meets Swedish defenseman and hero Nicklas Lidstrom. Among other things, Sjoberg tries to dispel the myth about Lidstrom as a perpetual gentleman who never loses his patience. The Swedish defenseman is also known as “Mr. Perfect,” a nickname he received from his teammates on the Detroit Red Wings.

“Feels good”

To achieve this result, Sjoberg takes Lidstrom to a beaten-up Volvo, provides him with a baseball bat and tells him that he will, “Do whatever he wants.” And the older rock-solid defenseman isn’t slow to take up the challenge. Taking great care, he smashes all the windows of the car’s doors, and makes sure to smash the mirrors and headlights.

“It feels good to get out some aggression,” says Lidstrom when he’s finished.

 

 

In other news, let’s get some trade rumor details straight. MLive’s Brendan Savage reported that the Wings have inquired about Jay Bouwmeester’s services, and the Detroit News’s Gregg Krupa both claimed that the Wings have also inquired about Keith Yandle (which is true) and that it would take Valtteri Filppula, Jonathan Ericsson and a “top prospect” to acquire Bouwmeester.

As such, the out-of-towners have picked up on the hometown speculation, as evidenced by Pro Hockey Talk’s James O’Brien’s interest in Krupa’s take…

Gregg Krupa reports that the Red Wings have also “inquired” about Phoenix Coyotes defenseman Keith Yandle.

It would cost the Red Wings considerably to acquire him. But Yandle, who turns 26 next month, is far more worthy of it than Bouwmeester.

The Red Wings have inquired about Yandle. But what complicates their pursuit is the perilous ownership situation in Phoenix.

(Krupa goes on to discuss the possibility of Coyotes players becoming available through a “dispersal draft,” but we’ll just move on from that subject.)

Here’s a quick-and-dirty breakdown of what the two defensemen bring to the table:

Yandle – 25 years old, cap hit: $5.25 million through 2015-16, 43 points in 2011-12

Bouwmeester – 28 years old, cap hit: $6.68M through 2013-14, 29 points in 2011-12

Of course, their respective teams might require different assets in a trade, but the Red Wings at least have options to fill the gaping holes in their defense.

And NESN’s Ricky Doyle is intrigued by this speculation…

This comes on the heels of last week’s report from Brendan Savage of MLive.com that said Detroit was in talks with Calgary about making a trade for veteran D-man Jay Bouwmeester.

According to The Detroit News, Phoenix’ “perilous ownership situation” is complicating matters when it comes to dealing for Yandle, a Boston native who turns 26 in September.

Yandle is among the NHL’s bright, young defensemen, having earned an All-Star selection each of the last two seasons. He tallied a career-high 48 assists and 59 points in 2010-11, and recorded 11-32-43 totals last season while helping to lead the Coyotes to the Western Conference Final. A nifty playmaker whose defense continues to improve,

Yandle has also shown plenty of durability, appearing in all 82 regular season games each of the last three seasons.

The cost for a defenseman like Yandle would undoubtedly be high from a talent standpoint. But with limited options in free agency, the Red Wings may be forced to roll the dice in order to improve their depleted blue line.

Yandle signed a five-year contract extension with the Coyotes in July 20[12].

And, via RedWingsFeed, Sportsnet’s Luke Fox weighed in as well:

The gaping hole along the Detroit Red Wings’ typically solid blue line could be filled capably by Phoenix Coyotes star defenceman Keith Yandle. And, according to report from the Detroit News on Tuesday, the Wings have inquired about a possible trade.

Off-season turnover has seen the Wings swap Brad Stuart to the San Jose Sharks and lose future Hall of Famer Nicklas Lidstrom to retirement. Half of their top-four blueliners gone.

Despite offers, the Original Six club’s defensive void has not yet been patched this off-season through free agency or trade. The Wings reportedly attempted to land Ryan Suter, Justin Schultz, Matt Carle and Sami Salo, all of whom signed elsewhere.

Last week it was reported that the Wings were speaking with the Calgary Flames about obtaining defenceman Jay Bouwmeester in exchange for Valtteri Filppula, Jonathan Ericsson and a prospect.

With the Philadelphia Flyers’ defensive core racked with injuries, they might also be looking to make a bid for Bouwmeester, the report suggests.

A pursuit of the 25-year-old Yandle, a key component in the Coyotes’ journey to the 2012 Western Conference final, will come at a high cost.

Yandle, selected to the last two All-Star Games, hasn’t missed a game for Phoenix in three full seasons. Last year he scored 11 goals, added 32 assists and took 51 minutes in penalties.

The defenceman is signed to the Coyotes through 2015-16 with an annual cap hit of $5.25 million.

I’ve said this before, I’m going to say it again, and I know that as soon as I hit the “submit entry” button, it won’t stop you from engaging in serious-ass speculation and talk about these potential moves, but…

The Red Wings are incredibly unlikely to make a trade for Bouwmeester or Yandle because these top-pair defensemen’s respective teams would require a top-pair defenseman in return for said players’ services, and the Red Wings can neither afford to drop a top-six forward like Filppula nor their top-pair defensemen, who are, as NHL.com’s 30 in 30 series and the Free Press’s Helene St. James suggested this morning, Niklas Kronwall and Ian White.

Yes, the Wings are kicking the tires on Bouwmeester, Yandle and every other defenseman they’re interested in. But again, kicking tires and making a trade are two very different things…

And in realistic terms, and I quote myself from this morning, the Wings don’t have the leverage to snag a defenseman without creating another gaping hole in their roster if they do anything less than wait until the start of the regular season at the very least, and in realistic terms, here’s their shopping list in terms of the “one more defenseman” Ken Holland wants to sign:

arring an unlikely pre-season trade, the Wings have a shallow pool of free agent defensemen to choose from, with Carlo Colaiacovo, Michal Rozsival, Pavel Kubina, Jaroslav Spacek, Scott Hannan, Brett Clark, Milan Jurcina, wild cards like Chris Campoli, Matt Gilroy, Cam Barker and lesser lights like Colin White, Sean O’Donnell, Jim Vandermeer and Kent Huskins representing the entirety of the Wings’ options available for only the price of their contracts.

I know this isn’t nearly as fun as talking about Bouwmeesters or Yandles, but realistic discussion is at least…less likely to be tremendously disappointing when a Colaiacovo, Rozsival, Kubina or Spacek comes to town.

 

 


In the alumni department, if you are interested, MLive’s Brendan Savage offered fan tributes to Tomas Holmstrom, and the Detroit News’s Ted Kulfan filed the following blog entry late last night (I missed it, sorry):

A reader brought up the question of whether Sergei Fedorov will be booed at Comerica Park during the old-timers game against Toronto during Winter Classic week.
I certainly hope Red Wings fans would cheer Fedorov. And when game time arrives, I think they will.

Granted, the ending to his career here wasn’t smooth and clean. Fedorov never seemed to fit in Anaheim, Columbus, to a lesser extent Washington, and likely realizes he made a mistake leaving.

But this was an electrifying talent, one of the best players in the game, and one of the key talents on championship teams.

He could be different, no doubt. Maybe Fedorov didn’t always say the right thing.

But Sergei Fedorov was an important Red Wing for a long time, and was a big reason the Wings won three Cups with him in the lineup.

He was a unique player, and to boo him at an event like this one will be, just wouldn’t reflect well on Red Wings fans.

 

 

In plain old odd news, the Orange County Register’s Matt Coker and Yahoo Sports’ Greg “Puck Daddy” Wyshynski are weighing in on the strange civil suit against Anaheim Ducks GM Bob Murray, and all I can tell you about these kinds of hearings is the following:

1. We will never know the “truth of the matter”;

2. When private investigators are involved, it is very hard to find out whether someone has truly been disabled, because “evidence” is not exactly “evidence.” I have had friends who were legitimately disabled by nothing less than degenerative back issues that required multiple surgeries, and in one case, a frickin’ broken neck and cognitive disabilities suffered fro a fall on the job, and both people were painted as scumbags because they did things like walking 200 feet or opening car doors.

I do not know who is at fault here, if any of the details are true, or who is lying, if anyone is lying at all, but to presume that either side is right or wrong in these kinds of cases is a dangerous step to take.

 

 

And finally, for the moment, anyway, I’ve noticed that flks on HF Boards are talking about Chris Chelios Hockey schools. Take note, friends: the Illinois-based schools are the business endeavors of Chris Chelios, the Red Wings player development/mentor’s cousin. Cousin Chris has an incredibly well-established and very well-regarded hockey school that is more than worth any hockey fan’s investment. I’ve heard nothing but good things about the Chelios Hockey schools, programs and camps. But they’re not taught by the man who wore #7 for Chicago and #24 for Detroit.

 


Also: Michigan Hockey is holding a contest whose prize is a Warrior covert DT1 stick. I entered it…

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WingedRider's avatar

I don’t like the Fil, E and unknown prospect for Jay Blow.  I am not sure what this does for the Flames as they will take on $6.25 M in salary with Fil and E??

Doesn’t help their Cap issues.

Agree Yandle is a better addition but he did have a down year last year.  Still hate giving up Fil but Wings have to give up something to get a decent D man.

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 08/15/12 at 05:11 PM ET

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But they’re not taught by the man who wore #7 for Chicago and #24 for Detroit.

And #24 for Montreal. #24 was his bookend number, and the number he wore both times he won the Cup.  tongue wink

Posted by Bradley97 on 08/15/12 at 05:18 PM ET

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Ericsson’s contract has a no-trade clause. Good luck getting him to waive that in order to go to Phoenix, of all places.

Posted by DrewBehr from The Mitten on 08/15/12 at 06:39 PM ET

Norskirama's avatar

I think Cheli has three rings, no?

Posted by Norskirama from Lincoln, Nebraska on 08/15/12 at 06:42 PM ET

NIVO's avatar

about the J-Bo deal…..you dont get rid of a D-man in the package to acquire another D-man. That just puts you right where you were(has nothing to do whether fans like/dislike the player either). Fil, prospect and a 3rd rounder for Yandle and I might bite. Depends who they want as a prospect because several of those guys are off limits.

Posted by NIVO from underpants gnome village on 08/15/12 at 08:22 PM ET

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I know this isn’t nearly as fun as talking about Bouwmeesters or Yandles

Who needs them, we’ve got Smiths

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 08/15/12 at 08:30 PM ET

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George has been alluding to this as well and I’ve meant to say something about it cause it’s not entirely fruitless or else Kenny wouldn’t be asking, because he’s god.

You might still need to sign that vet we’re talking about, but you’d still be getting an upgrade on the top pairing compared to what would have been there before.

So, say the D corp shapes up like

Kronner-White
Ericsson-Quincey
Smith-Kindl

... That’s suspect, we know, even though he’s the probably the most experienced after Kron, White has some deficiencies in his game and will probably have a hard time logging hard minutes against top guys.

So you trade Ericsson for Bowmeester (just talking about D, not the side where we give up flip too)

Kronner-Jaybo
White-Quincey
Smith-Kindl

You didn’t plug any holes, but you did upgrade that top pairing for a more reliable set to take on other teams big dogs all night.

Not for it myself, but to claim it’s as simple as plugging holes is a little short sighted imo

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 08/15/12 at 08:38 PM ET

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.....despite all the grousing to the contrary, yandle is not a quantum upgrade over ericsson…i’ve seen him undressed on the ice many times…..plays that ericsson couldn’t bone as badly…..and then to give up flip, and a high prospect makes the deal even more ludicrous….if kenny made that deal there would be no end to the vitriol spewed over his stupidity…..and rightly so….

.....let’s simmer for a while and see what kind of drafting our immortal brain trust has done….i’m all in to see what these kids can do….it’s gonna take a flameout of avalanche proportions to not make the playoffs this year…..don’t make any parade plans, though….it’s gonna take some years for the next incarnation of the wings to gel…..the solution will present itself…..at this point we have no idea of what we have, and i refuse to expect the worst…..now where did i put that tinfoil hat of mine…..a glass of koolade would be refreshing as well…...heavy on the ice….literally and figuratively…

Posted by dingus from the salty great lake on 08/15/12 at 08:56 PM ET

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Okay, since nobody else has said it,...
You don’t suppose Lidstrom can play outfield?
Can anyone find video on the internet of Lidstrom levelling someone with a check?

Posted by Bugsy on 08/15/12 at 09:00 PM ET

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Okay, since nobody else has said it,...
You don’t suppose Lidstrom can play outfield?
Can anyone find video on the internet of Lidstrom levelling someone with a check?

Posted by Bugsy on 08/15/12 at 08:00 PM ET

no, but there is a beautiful video of Datsyuk knocking shaybutter on his ass.

Posted by NIVO from underpants gnome village on 08/15/12 at 10:05 PM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

Let me have that stick George. I have been learning to play defense for the summer and that stick is all I need to fill the Wing’s defense problems rolleyes

Finished my season last Thurs with a 6-1 loss in the playoffs. Our summer season record was 1-9 on a very green team of schlubs learning the game we all love.
I am having rotator cuff surgery next Tuesday after dealing with this injury since last October.  It will be nice to have a shot again or lift an opponent’s stick instead of tommahawking the puck away . Hopefully will be back toward the end of September and join the guys back on the ice.

Will be here lurking about in the meantime trying to keep from going crazy from withdrawl from hockey and work.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 08/15/12 at 11:51 PM ET

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Anyone that boos Sergei, and I’ve been saying this for years but it’s especially true in an alumni game, is a DB.  That guy was the 2nd best player of his generation, only behind Forsberg—and it’s a close 2nd.  Glad to see you come home 91.

Posted by jkm2011 on 08/16/12 at 12:31 AM ET

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That’s kinda surreal watching Lidas smash himself a car.

He needs a job or something; clearly too much time on his hands.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 08/16/12 at 02:57 AM ET

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You didn’t plug any holes, but you did upgrade that top pairing for a more reliable set to take on other teams big dogs all night.

The thing is if you make a trade you’re not upgrading the top pair, you’re upgrading the top two.  If you bring in Bouwmeester (for example) then you’re likely going to have Kronwall and Bouwmeester on separate pairings as 1A and 1B.

The problem right now is that while there’s potential in Ericsson, Quincey and Smith, you’ve currently got a #1/2 guy and five 4-6 guys.  White isn’t a legit top two guy and you don’t want to have to force Kronwall to both step up his game from second pairing to top pairing and also to have to look after White (who was solid because he was playing with Lidstrom and clearly suffered when playing with anyone else…).

I also can’t imagine anyone would want White to be the “anchor” on the second pairing because he’s not going to be any kind of mentor for Smith, Quincey or Ericsson.  White is shaky himself, he certainly isn’t #3 material.

Honestly, if it comes down to trading D I would much rather they move White than anyone else.  Kindl can be a #5/6 guy, Ericsson or Quincey could be on the second line and Smith would probably be good with Kronwall, what you need right now is someone to be the solid, dependable presence on the second pairing.

Is Bouwmeester the answer?  Probably not, especially at his price tag, but there is a legit need to add someone between Kronwall and the rest of them.

Posted by Garth on 08/16/12 at 12:48 PM ET

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The thing is if you make a trade you’re not upgrading the top pair, you’re upgrading the top two.

To clarify, I meant the top two pairs, not the top two.

Posted by Garth on 08/16/12 at 12:49 PM ET

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Yandle would be great, but we cannot afford to give up too much for him…..............That is the problem with trades, it costs players not just money!

Posted by Harold Smith from United States on 08/16/12 at 01:23 PM ET

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That is the problem with trades, it costs players not just money!

That’s not a problem, it’s reality, if you want to trade for someone you have to give something up.

Posted by Garth on 08/16/12 at 01:43 PM ET

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I beg to differ, by the very definition of a ‘problem’, it is a problem! Yes it is reality, so what, reality does often confront us with problems and or opportunities; what counts is what decisions we make….................

Posted by Harold Smith from United States on 08/16/12 at 02:05 PM ET

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....but do you trade 50 cents to get a quarter in return ??......only if you’re matt millen…

Posted by dingus from the salty great lake on 08/16/12 at 02:05 PM ET

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“If you want ‘x’ you need to give me something in return” is not a problem.  Having the attitude that you shouldn’t have to give up something to get something is the problem.

Posted by Garth on 08/16/12 at 03:06 PM ET

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Wow Garth, why our you so sensitive about this? I agree traders must be willing to give up players for players and even equally good players; you completely mis-understand me!  The problem lies in obtaining players that you believe will upgrade your team, without giving up players in return, that then downgrades your team. Trading is a gamble, but you hope to upgrade your team not do the opposite…............So it is a problem of decision and reasoning, and that is a fact.
Problem: any question or matter involving doubt, uncertainty, or difficulty.
a question proposed for solution or discussion ****A problem!!!

Posted by Harold Smith from United States on 08/16/12 at 03:24 PM ET

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You’re right.  We don’t know what will happen.  Thanks for the insight.  Nobody should ever trade anything ever because of the big problem involved.

Posted by Garth on 08/16/12 at 05:35 PM ET

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That is not what I said; alas you are either playing me, or I’m just not understood by you. ***Any trade, the value you give up must be considered in the value you hope to get, that is the problem of reasoning and decision making. ***It’s a problem, but it does not mean you never trade; it means you MUST ALWAYS COUNT THE COST!  That is reality and that is life…....................

Posted by Harold Smith from United States on 08/16/12 at 05:57 PM ET

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