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Red Wings mid-day news: On draft-day gabba and the master plan

Updated 2x at 5:29 PM: First and foremost as we wait for the first round of the NHL Entry Draft to begin tonight at 7 PM EDT (Versus/TSN), the Hockey News’s Ken Campbell asked Red Wings coach Mike Babcock was asked to clarify a little kibbutz he engaged in with former Thrashers coach Craig Ramsay on Thursday, and…

Detroit Red Wings coach Mike Babcock and former Thrashers coach Craig Ramsay, who has been told he won’t be retained by Winnipeg, were huddled at a table Thursday morning at a Minneapolis restaurant in what looked very much like a job interview. But Babcock said later that was not the case and Ramsay will not be joining the Red Wings staff as an assistant.

“I’ve talked to a lot of people, but I’m not close to making a decision,” Babcock said. “If you wrote that (Ramsay would be offered a job), you would be wrong.”

There has been speculation Babcock, who has been given the full power to hire his own assistants by GM Ken Holland, already offered a job to Ken Hitchcock, but was turned down

So the search continues, and again, it appears that Bob Boughner and Pete DeBoer remain favorites for Babcock’s assistant coaches’ positions…

On the Jagr front, ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun reports that nothing’s really changed on the Pittsburgh Penguins’ front:

“I talked to [Jagr’s agent] Petr Svoboda a couple of times,” said Shero. “I talked to Jagr a few days ago; Mario also talked to him. I touched base again yesterday with Petr. That’s really where it is. We haven’t made an offer at this point, so we’ll see where it goes. It’s an intriguing player for sure. He’s 39, but I saw him at the World Championships and he’s still a good player.”

As reported this morning, it’s the Wings who have made Jagr a take-it-or-leave-it offer, while the Penguins have more reservations about Jagr’s abilities and less cap space…but it still seems as if it’s Pittsburgh where Jagr really wants to play.

In the scuttlebutt department, I’m not sure what the hell to make of this comment from Fox Sports Detroit’s Art Regner, who suggests that the Red Wings won’t go with a top-tier defenseman to replace Brian Rafalski if they can’t find a right-handed shot (which simply isn’t true: the Wings need a puck-mover, and if he’s a righty, that’s a bonus):

There are only a handful of those defensemen on the free-agent market, and the best of the lot is Kevin Bieksa. But reports out of Vancouver indicate that Bieska will stay put with the Canucks. If that’s not accurate, Detroit will pursue Bieska, but you have to believe he’ll re-sign with Vancouver. Bieska’s teammate, Sami Salo, could be on Detroit’s radar, but his age (36) and a history of injury should make Salo, at best, a last resort. Ian White of the Sharks is young (turned 27 on June 4) and a bit small at 5-10 and 190 pounds. But he’s mobile, shoots right-handed and has a laser from the point. The Sharks, though, traded away a No. 2 pick for White, so it seems unlikely they would let him walk away.

Former Plymouth Whaler and Canton native James Wisniewski should be the Wings’ top target. Wisniewski is burly at 5-11 and 205 pounds, plays with aggression, defends the crease area, possesses offensive skills, skates well and has an all-around game that would flourish in the Wing’s system. In 75 games played last season for the Islanders and Canadiens, Wisniewski had 10 goals, 41 assists and was a minus-14. (He was a minus-18 with the lowly Islanders and a plus-4 after his trade to Montreal.)

Wisniewski might not want to come back home and play for the Wings, if persistent rumors about him being angry with the Detroit organization are true. Again, this is just speculation, but apparently Wisniewski is upset with the way his uncle and former Wing Billy Dea was let go when he was part of Detroit’s front office. If that’s the case, you would have to hope that Wisniewski can turn the other cheek and move on. Detroit would be an ideal situation for him on so many levels.

Uh, $4 or $5 million a year on a long-term contract should smooth over any concerns in that department…

Regner’s actually a Jagr fan…

And in terms of the Wings’ own unrestricted free agents-to-be, I don’t know if my gut and his gut agree on this one:

When it comes to their own unrestricted free agents, Patrick Eaves, Drew Miller and Jonathan Ericsson have all been offered deals. Detroit really wants Eaves and Miller to re-sign, but they’re lukewarm on Ericsson. Detroit has a number for the Swedish defenseman and they will not go a penny over. My gut tells me that Jonnie is gone and perhaps a fresh start will do him good.

I don’t believe that, as Regner suggests, the Wings will ask Kris Draper to play for his job during training camp as Draper himself said he wasn’t interested in a Kirk Maltby scenario, but one never knows, and as he suggests, Chris Osgood is probably done if the Wings choose to sign a back-up goaltender from the open market (which seems likely at this point)...

Then there’s this:

Although many are anticipating a trading frenzy at this weekend’s draft, it appears doubtful that the Wings would make a major swap. Detroit would love to unload Jiri Hudler’s contract, but more likely Valtteri Flippula would be the Red Wing most teams would deal for. Yet, you never know what’s going to happen when all 30 NHL teams are sequestered under one roof. Something tells me that Kenny Holland has an itchy trigger finger and will pull that trigger if the right deal comes his way.

MLive’s Ansar Khan also discusses this possibility...

[C]onsecutive second-round playoff losses to San Jose, coupled with a mediocre free-agent class, might prompt Detroit general manager Ken Holland to pursue a trade for a top-four defenseman or scoring winger. Minnesota defenseman Brent Burns is among the players rumored to be available, though he won’t come cheap. He’s big (6-foot-5, 219) and young (26), has offensive ability (17 goals, 46 points last season) and shoots right-handed. He will enter the final year of his contract ($3.55 million) and can become an unrestricted free agent in 2012. Forwards Jiri Hudler and Valtteri Filppula probably are the only players the Red Wings would consider moving.

As I’ve suggested, I think that Hudler would be easier to move (he makes less in terms of real-world bucks, is in the last year of his contract, and wouldn’t leave the Wings with a gaping hole at the center ice position), but I really don’t have an inkling as to whether the Wings have the appetite to make a move tonight or not, other than to suggest that Ken Holland remains the consummate tire-kicker.

And I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that Wings assistant GM Jim Nill, who’s going to be in charge in terms of picking players tonight, are leaning toward snagging a puck-moving defenseman tonight and will probably use at least some of their eight picks to re-stock their blueline:

“It’s hard to find good defensemen,” Red Wings assistant general manager Jim Nill said. “Numbers-wise in the organization, you’d prefer a defenseman. You can never have enough defensemen. It’s a tough position to play.”
Whether or not the Red Wings use their first pick on a defenseman, they are sure to take a few in this draft. Their defensive prospects include Grand Rapids Griffins Brian Lashoff, Logan Pyett, Travis Ehrhardt, Gleason Fournier and Adam Almqvist as well as collegians Nick Jensen (St. Cloud State), Max Nicastro (Boston University) and Ben Marshall (Minnesota).

“We’ve got good, young defensemen coming along, but it takes longer to mature,” Nill said. “It takes four years to learn that position. It’s a high-pressure position.”

Nill also subscribes to the widely-held theory that the draft’s so deep that the team could very easily swap their first-round pick for a pair of second-rounders, though the team isn’t ruling out trading up, either…

“After the first 10 picks it’s wide open,” Nill said. “From 20 to 50 there’s a lot of the same (quality of) players. There’s something to like about them, but they have weaknesses. Depth-wise, it’s good. You can get a good player in the second round as well as the first.”
“We go in with a lot of different scenarios,” Nill said. “We’d love to get into the top 10, but how much will it cost you?”

And he tells Khan that the team probably won’t go after a goaltender, at least early on:

“It’s not a strong draft for goaltending,” Nill said. “When we start getting into the sixth and seventh rounds, it depends on what’s sitting there. We got three goalies under the age of 23 (Thomas McCollum, Jordan Pearce and Petr Mrazek), so we got good enough depth.”

Update #1: Per ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun, the Maple Leafs have hired former Thrashers GM Rick Dudley (I’m sure he received an invite to join the Wings’ scouting staff);

• Sportsnet’s Mike Brophy and the Score’s John Matisz tossed off the usual “Wings late-round-drafting-mastery” references in a pair of articles discussing “sleeper” picks;

• The Wings are offering a Chris Osgood “Fathead” decal to fans who offer suggestions as to who the Wings might pick with the hash tag #wingspick on Twitter;

• Obviously: RedWingsCentral will offer us the best coverage of the draft-in-retrospect in terms of player profiles, so I’m going to head there and reference Matthew Wuest and Sarah Lindeneau very regularly over the next few weeks, and Lindenau is projecting that the Wings will pick defenseman Jonas Brodin with the 24th overall pick;

• Not-so-obviously: Biggy question: do you want me to offer up an “open post” for the first round? We’re going to have one here on KK and my plans for the next two days involve a post dedicated to the 1st-round pick (if the Wings don’t trade down) and then the Wings’ 2nd-through-7th-rounders tomorrow;

Update #2: Quickies: The Grand Rapids Press’s Michael Zuidema paid tribute to outgoing Grand Rapids Griffins GM Bob McNamara, who spoke to WBBL’s Bakita and Bentley on Friday…

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• And I probably mentioned this already, but as an FYI, the Lambton (Ontario) Shield reports that former Wing and current Tampa Bay Lightning scout Pat Verbeek will be inducted into the Sarnia Lambton Sports Hall of Fame this fall.

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SYF's avatar

There has been speculation Babcock, who has been given the full power to hire his own assistants by GM Ken Holland, already offered a job to Ken Hitchcock, but was turned down

If the speculation is correct, well, shit.  Hitch would’ve been a fine addition to Uncle Mike’s staff.  It would seem Hitch would rather have a Head Coaching gig.

Posted by SYF from Twerkin' with Anastasia Ashley on 06/24/11 at 05:33 PM ET

All American in MN's avatar

Dallas has made it known that they will move down in the draft to acquire additional picks.  Maybe Holland will swing a trade if, say Jonas Brodin, is still available then. 

Speaking of Huds; Snow has stated that he would trade his first rounder for players that are ready to play in the NHL now.  He kind of missed out on some of those players yesterday when Philly blew up thier core—oops.  Maybe that window licker will trade for Hudler in a package deal.  Well, I can dream big right?  Maybe Suter would have made that trade if he was still around in Calgary. Hahahaha.

The western conference got better yesterday.  Hopefully Holland does something that isn’t Jagr or Kaberle.

Posted by All American in MN on 06/24/11 at 06:07 PM ET


Wisniewski needs therapy or a big hug if he is upset for his uncle getting terminated in 1982 after going 3-8 as a head coach… of course the fact that he wasn’t born for another two years seems to make his feelings about the red wings even more odd

Posted by cberth on 06/24/11 at 06:30 PM ET


The western conference got better yesterday.  Hopefully Holland does something that isn’t Jagr or Kaberle.


Posted by Jesters Dead on 06/24/11 at 06:42 PM ET

Chet's avatar

i’d love to see hudler and some combo of picks/prospects (within reason) moved for burns. MN could use help up front.

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 06/24/11 at 08:41 PM ET

Slumpy's avatar

Don’t see Minny wanting to improve the Wings by trading Burns. They got to play us in our conference.
I see Kenny drafting the biggest player in the draft Oleksiak or the smallest Grimaldi with the first pick.

Posted by Slumpy from Under My Wheels on 06/24/11 at 08:55 PM ET


If Brodin is available at #24, I’ll be amazed.

Posted by godblender on 06/24/11 at 10:35 PM ET


....and he’s gone to Minnesota.

Posted by godblender on 06/24/11 at 10:39 PM ET

All American in MN's avatar

Would it kill kenny to do something?  Burns just got traded to SJ.  Even with the loss of Seteguchi, SJ is a FAR better team now.

Brodin and Kliefbom are both taken.  Well, Jurco is still around.

Posted by All American in MN on 06/24/11 at 11:44 PM ET

All American in MN's avatar

If Kenny picks a goalie with any their first few picks, i am going to vomit.

Posted by All American in MN on 06/24/11 at 11:52 PM ET

AndrewFromAnnArbor's avatar

Good movey Kenny to trade down—all the blue-chip guys (or at least in my view) were gone, so might as well get quantity out of it.  Unless you were one of the guys high on Puempel, then it might suck to watch him go with the pick we traded away.  Door’s still open for you Jurco fans (though I have to concur with you, if he’s still around 35, we should take him).

The Oilers will develop Klefbom all wrong, rush him to the NHL because of their need on defense, and I don’t think he’ll fulfill his potential until he’s a UFA.  Maybe we can get him then.

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 06/25/11 at 04:14 AM ET

AndrewFromAnnArbor's avatar

Although I just realized Scott Mayfield is still available.  I’ve heard good things about him, and we’d have four years to develop him.  Plus, if he made it to the big show, we could call him Superfly.

Might also be worth going for Brandon Saad, if for no other reason than to piss off Pens fans—that’s if Shero hasn’t beaten us to the punch by not already doing so.

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 06/25/11 at 04:47 AM ET


Three second round picks and a little happy Hudler could get something pretty decent in return. Right? Right?


Wouldn’t that be kinda funny if Kenny were to use those 2nd rounders towards the payment of an offer sheet?

Go Kenny!

Posted by cementslinger from Midland MI on 06/25/11 at 06:49 AM ET

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