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Red Wings evening news: Khan provides Doan/Quincey/Holmstrom updates; combacks are all the rage

With CBA uncertainty and talk of 40-something players making comebacks filling the “slow days” of mid-July, MLive’s Ansar Khan provides an update on different can of “strange” in the Red Wings’ slow-but-steady pursuit of one Shane Doan, should the 35-year-old decide to leave the Phoenix Coyotes…

“I’ve had conversations with Shane Doan’s representatives,’’ Red Wings general manager Ken Holland said. “I told them we have interest.’‘

The Red Wings are prepared to wait as long as it takes, not that they have much choice, considering the extremely limited options in free agency and the high cost of trading for an impact player.

But for the present moment, the uncertainty as to whether the legal efforts to block the Coyotes’ sale mean that the Wings and every other team interested in Doan are in thumb-twiddling mode:

“We’re waiting a couple of days to see if this [Greg] Jamison thing goes through,’’ Terry Bross, Doan’s agent, said on Monday. “Not all the petitions have been defeated. We’re waiting to see if the Jamison (deal) gets done.’‘

Doan wants a multiyear deal and assurance that the club won’t relocate after 2012-13. Doan made $4.5 million in 2011-12 but likely will earn more on his next contract, despite his age (he turns 36 on Oct. 10).

And this is particularly interesting:

If Detroit doesn’t land Doan, it might make a pitch for Alexander Semin, but only if he accepts a short-term deal (one or two years). Teams apparently are reluctant to give Semin a long-term contract, despite his offensive ability (he has averaged 31 goals over the past six seasons with Washington). Clubs have concerns about his commitment. The Red Wings will wait on Doan, even if it means missing out on Semin, with whom they are not overly infatuated.

Khan also says that the Wings don’t plan on spending to the cap in case the NHL tries to thrust another defacto dispersal draft through via reducing the “upper limit”...

But regarding players who are currently part of the Wings’ organization, Khan reports that Kyle Quincey’s filing for arbitration has kick-started negotiations between Holland and Quincey’s agent as the team doesn’t want to actually go through its third arbitration hearing since 1995…

“The hope is we can find a solution without going to arbitration,’’ Holland said.

Justin Abdelakder’s contract will take a little longer than July 25th to get done, however…

“His agent and I haven’t really talked,’’ Holland said. “I’m not concerned. We made an offer before the draft (June 22-23). It’s a matter of sitting down and having further discussion.’‘

And Holland offered en eyebrow-raiser regarding Tomas Holmstrom’s future as the two are scheduled to speak this week:

“I told Homer to take all the time you need,’’ Holland said. “If he decides he wants to play, then we’ll sit down and decide if we have (roster) space.’‘

I wouldn’t count Homer out, but he’d face an uphill climb in trying to land a spot as a 13th or 14th forward.

 

 

DetroitRedWings.com’s Bill Roose adds one more wrinkle to the Semin story:

 

 

In the comeback department, adding to the NHL.com video of Dominik Hasek talking about a potential comeback, he also spoke to TSN about his desire to return to the NHL at 47, but TSN’s That’s Hockey crew believe that Hasek’s comeback is all but impossible;

• I’m not exactly surprised to hear that Yahoo Sports’ Harrison Mooney reports that Mike Modano is weighing a possible comeback at 41, too—he’s a good egg, but he’s also an odd one, too—but I don’t see that happening, either, given the number of very serviceable NHL players who are currently unemployed…

 


In a different kind of reminiscing department, the Bangor Daily News’s Larry Mahoney spoke to Jimmy Howard about taking his dad to the Sprint Nextel race at Michigan International Speedway a month ago, and Jimmy was quite happy with his and his father’s experiences at the Quicken Loans 400:

“I told [my dad] I didn’t think I was doing anything and he asked me if I wanted to go with him. I said ‘Absolutely.’ There was no hesitation whatsoever. We don’t get to spend a lot of time together,” said James.

The experience was a fascinating one for father and son, who weren’t race fans before the experience but have become fans as a result.

“I definitely have a greater appreciation for the drivers,” said Jimmy. “Those guys have to be pretty fit to be in a race car for 500 laps. They have to have upper body strength to control a vehicle for that long. I talked to a couple of the drivers and they’re in the gym working out five or six days a week.”

“They don’t have the old racing body shapes,” said James, referring to the stocky frames of the old-time NASCAR drivers. “They can’t because they have to be able to endure 200, 300, 400 laps.”

They spent a lot of time with Landon Cassill, who drives the No. 83 Burger King Toyota Camry for BK Racing.

“He’s a real nice kid. It was cool to be able to pick his brain and see what he has to go through to prepare for a race,” said Jimmy. “There was a rain delay and you could tell how antsy he was. I don’t think drivers like to have their routines changed.”

“He told us he had raced at Oswego (N.Y.) Speedway and I used to go to Super Modified races there every Saturday night,” said James, who lives in Ogdensburg, N.Y. “He said he knew the new owners [John and Eric Torrese]. That was pretty cool. That gave us some common ground.”

The Howards toured the BK Racing trailers and met the other team members. They got to shake hands with all of the Sprint Cup drivers in pre-race activities and said they discovered that a lot of them follow the NHL.

“Some of them knew who I was and seemed to be excited to meet me. It was pretty cool. And I found out Joey Logano used to be a hockey goalie,” said Jimmy, who is back at his home in Dedham with wife Rachel and son James Russell Howard IV.

 


I’ve got something to say about this: It’s my blog, so I can grumble if I want to, and while the Hockey News’s Ken Campbell chatted up the owners’ first CBA proposal in neutral tones, to even dare to offer a headline suggesting that that NHL’s proposal was a “reasonable start” is no only owner-friendly, but also downright ridiculous;

• The Globe and Mail’s James Mirtle crunched the numbers of that CBA proposal to reveal how much the players’ share would shrink, and it’s closer to

22% of revenues than 11%

[edit/update: a 22% pay cut than what one would assume is an “11% of revenues = 11% pay cut, right?”—and thanks to James Mirtle for pointing this out /end edit];

• Via Paul, however, I’m very glad that Vancouver Canucks goalie Corey Schneider suggested to the Vancouver Sun’s Elliott Pap that the NHLPA will react in a “reasonable” and measured manner to the NHL’s “lowball ‘em to hell” proposal….


And finally, take this image from an email I received from the Wings for what you will, especially given that Winter Classic tickets are starting to show up on eBay for $1,000 or more per seat:

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I’m really worried that between the Wings and Leafs’ partial and full season-ticket holders and the NHL’s likely desire for 30,000 or more “VIP” seats, the promised lottery sale to the general public might not take place at all.

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No, no, 22% paycut overall, not a 22% cut in their share of revenues.

Posted by james Mirtle on 07/16/12 at 11:26 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

Oops! Editing, editing, sorry!

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/16/12 at 11:30 PM ET

John W.'s avatar

Why exactly wait for Doan before considering Semin?  First, they can easily sign both without even nearing the Cap, and second, I’d put the chance for landing Doan at very, very slim.  Chances are he stays in Phoenix, and if not, I’m willing to bet he stays in the nearby area (think LA, SJ).  I get that Semin is an enigma, but if we are really to believe that adding 1 guy could cause major locker room problems then perhaps there are more pressing issues with this team, which I doubt.  It’s very obvious replacing the D lost from the departures of Stuart and Lidstrom is not going to come even close to happening, so this team better be able to score a lot of goals, and after Semin and Doan there really isn’t anyone left, unless of course Kenny really thinks he’s getting Nash. 

Unless Datsyuk is telling Kenny to stay the hell away from Semin, I really don’t get why the Wings brass seems so scared of this guy.  I mean for Pete’s sake, we just signed Tootoo, talk about baggage.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 07/17/12 at 01:09 AM ET

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I recently took a 20% paycut, basically.  (From 50 hours a week down to 40).  And I’m here to tell ya… It’s kickin my Gary Bettman!

Posted by cementslinger from Midland MI on 07/17/12 at 01:11 AM ET

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I don’t get all the stay away from Semin crap. Personally, the guy wanted to play in all situations in the Capital.. and they denied him that. Maybe taking games off is a bad way to show it, but I hardly think that he was a locker room head case. Hell, he can float around for all I care.. Dats would put that puck right on his stick and he can fire all day long.

Okay, maybe not. But still.. I bet with him taking days off, he still gets more goals then the loafer in Mule..

Posted by RorSchach from Datsberg on 07/17/12 at 01:34 AM ET

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I recently took a 20% paycut, basically.  (From 50 hours a week down to 40).  And I’m here to tell ya… It’s kickin my Gary Bettman!

         
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              cementslinger
             
              from Midland MI on
              07/17/12 at 12:11 AM ET


A fuchin’ men brother.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/17/12 at 03:26 AM ET

George Malik's avatar

Semin’s agent, Mark Gandler, is one of the biggest nut-jobs around, so I would imagine that in addition to waiting for Semin’s asking price to go down, GM’s are wary of having to do business with the agent who orchestrated Alexei Yashin’s holdout and the agent who steers clients to the KHL left and right.

It’s one thing to deal with a high-maintenance player; it’s another to have to negotiate with his bat-crap-insane agent.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/17/12 at 04:15 AM ET

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No kidding… Semin’s agent is not helping his chances of landing a position in the NHL at all. I suppose he thought they would be knocking down the door by now after Parise signed where he did, and this late in FA.

I have to admit, even I’m somewhat surprised not one GM has jumped on a 30-40 goal scorer, regardless of his inconsistent work ethic. It wasn’t the best of scenarios for him in Wash.

Posted by SandysWingingit on 07/17/12 at 04:51 AM ET

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