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Red Wings captain Nicklas Lidstrom wins his seventh Norris Trophy

I can’t wait until we see the voting on this one…Nicklas Lidstrom just won his seventh Norris Trophy, and the Red Wings’ captain now only trails Bobby Orr in Norris Trophies won.

Update Via Paul and NHL.com:

Red Wings’ Lidstrom Wins Seventh Norris Trophy:

Nicklas Lidstrom of the Detroit Red Wings has won his seventh career James Norris Memorial Trophy, awarded to the defenseman demonstrating “the greatest all-around ability in the position,” as selected by the Professional Hockey Writers’ Association.

Lidstrom edged Shea Weber of the Nashville Predators 736-727 in the closest race for first place since 1996, when Chicago’s Chris Chelios finished five points ahead of Boston’s Ray Bourque, 408-403. With Lidstrom, Weber and third-place Zdeno Chara of the Boston Bruins receiving similar first-place vote totals (Lidstrom 35, Weber 32, Chara 33) and the trio separated by just 48 points, this marks the tightest three-way race for the Norris Trophy since its introduction in 1954.

Lidstrom’s 19th NHL season was one of his most productive, ranking second among NHL defensemen in scoring with 62 points (16 goals, 46 assists) in 82 games. He tied for fourth place among League defensemen in goals, was third in assists and tied for sixth in power-play goals (six).

The 41-year-old Red Wings captain, who yesterday announced he will return to Detroit for a 20th season in 2011-12, led the Central Division champions in ice time by averaging 23:28 per contest.

The 41-year-old Vasteras, Sweden native is the third defenseman in League history with as many as seven Norris Trophy wins, joining Hockey Hall of Fame members Bobby Orr (eight) and Doug Harvey (seven).

2010-2011 Norris Trophy Voting

Pts. 1st-2nd-3rd-4th-5th

1. Nicklas Lidstrom, DET 736 (35-23-34-15-10)
2. Shea Weber, NSH 727 (32-41-14-14-8)
3. Zdeno Chara, BOS 688 (33-24-24-20-10)
4. Lubomir Visnovsky, ANA 573 (20-20-26-28-19)
5. Keith Yandle, PHX 312 (5-10-17-25-32)
6. Kris Letang, PIT 144 (2-3-9-12-22)
7. Dustin Byfuglien, ATL 33 (0-2-1-3-5)
8. Christian Ehrhoff, VAN 28 (0-0-1-6-5)
9. Duncan Keith, CHI 24 (0-1-1-3-3)
Pts. 1st-2nd-3rd-4th-5th
10. Matt Carle, PHI 8 (0-1-0-0-1)
Drew Doughty, L.A. 8 (0-1-0-0-1)
Chris Pronger, PHI 8 (0-1-0-0-1)
13. Toni Lydman, ANA 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
14. Dan Boyle, S.J. 3 (0-0-0-0-3)
15. Ryan Suter, NSH 2 (0-0-0-0-2)
16. Brian Campbell, CHI 1 (0-0-0-0-1)
Dan Hamhuis, VAN 1 (0-0-0-0-1)
Andrej Meszaros, PHI 1 (0-0-0-0-1)
Tyler Myers, BUF 1 (0-0-0-0-1)
Marc Staal, NYR 1 (0-0-0-0-1)

Norris Trophy Winners Since 1990

Year Winner Runner-up

2010 Duncan Keith, Chi. Mike Green, Wsh.
2009 Zdeno Chara, Bos. Mike Green, Wsh.
2008 Nicklas Lidstrom, Det. Dion Phaneuf, Cgy.
2007 Nicklas Lidstrom, Det. Scott Niedermayer, Ana.
2006 Nicklas Lidstrom, Det. Scott Niedermayer, Ana.
2004 S. Niedermayer, N.J. Zdeno Chara, Ott.
2003 Nicklas Lidstrom, Det. Al MacInnis, St.L
2002 Nicklas Lidstrom, Det. Chris Chelios, Det.
2001 Nicklas Lidstrom, Det. Ray Bourque, Col.
2000 Chris Pronger, St.L Nicklas Lidstrom, Det.
Year Winner Runner-up
1999 Al MacInnis, St.L Nicklas Lidstrom, Det.
1998 Rob Blake, L.A Nicklas Lidstrom, Det.
1997 Brian Leetch, NYR Vlad. Konstantinov, Det.
1996 Chris Chelios, Chi. Ray Bourque, Bos.
1995 Paul Coffey, Det. Chris Chelios, Chi.
1994 Ray Bourque, Bos. Scott Stevens, N.J.
1993 Chris Chelios, Chi. Ray Bourque, Bos.
1992 Brian Leetch, NYR Ray Bourque, Bos.
1991 Ray Bourque, Bos. Al MacInnis, Cgy.
1990 Ray Bourque, Bos. Al MacInnis, Cgy.

Via Paul, here’s Nick with Little Sweden (Annika and the boys) on the red carpet:

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Forlorn in VA's avatar

Me Likey!

Posted by Forlorn in VA on 06/22/11 at 08:18 PM ET

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7 Norris Trophy wins.

That will never be matched.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/22/11 at 08:21 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

SEVEN - outstanding.

Now, how but a ring for his thumb!

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 06/22/11 at 08:22 PM ET

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Amazing.

Posted by monkey from Praha, Česká republika on 06/22/11 at 08:23 PM ET

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I bonered.

Seriously, I did.

Congrats to TPH.

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 06/22/11 at 08:35 PM ET

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Now you’ve got to think that we might see Lidas past this year, assuming as we always do that he’ll have another Norris-calibre seasion…how could you pass up the chance to actually beat Orr’s record?

Posted by BrendonR on 06/22/11 at 08:44 PM ET

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7 Norris Trophy wins.

That will never be matched.


???????????????????

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 06/22/11 at 08:51 PM ET

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7 Norris Trophy wins.

That will never be matched.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste. Marie on 06/22/11 at 07:21 PM ET

Orr won 8 straight and he played 36 games in his last 3 years because of his bad knees. Not to mention won the art ross twice and 3 straight Hart trophies. Also Paul Coffey has only won 3 and Potvin won 2 and they are still considered better than Lidstrom. Just saying.

Posted by PuckRules on 06/22/11 at 09:13 PM ET

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Also Paul Coffey has only won 3 and Potvin won 2 and they are still considered better than Lidstrom. Just saying.

Actually they both won 3. And objectively I don’t think you will find a knowledgable hockey fan who thinks Coffey was better all around D-man than Lidstrom. Potvin on the other hand you could make a good case for, but because of Lidstrom’s longevity I think he still comes out ahead of Potvin. Potvin was done at age 35.

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 06/22/11 at 09:19 PM ET

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Right on, Linda.


and Congrats to the perfect human on #7.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 06/22/11 at 09:28 PM ET

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i think it came down to some of the voters voting for lidstrom and the majority wanting new blood.  the new blood guys were just split and allowed nick to sneak into the lead.

Posted by joe on 06/22/11 at 09:30 PM ET

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IN YOUR FACE.

http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/psh/comments/if_i_had_an_award_ballot2/

Posted by SK77 on 06/22/11 at 09:30 PM ET

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Also Paul Coffey has only won 3 and Potvin won 2 and they are still considered better than Lidstrom.

In what world is Paul Coffey considered better than Lidstrom?

Posted by Garth on 06/22/11 at 09:31 PM ET

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Not watching the show, did they at least spell & pronounce his name correctly??????

Posted by Down River Dan on 06/22/11 at 09:32 PM ET

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In what world is Paul Coffey considered better than Lidstrom?

I think he (PuckRules) might’ve been blinded by Coffey’s offensive numbers.

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 06/22/11 at 09:40 PM ET

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In what world is Paul Coffey considered better than Lidstrom?
- Garth

The one where Mike Green won the Vezina in 2008

Posted by Chris in A^2 from Nyquist Puck Control on 06/22/11 at 09:43 PM ET

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god damn, ryan getzlaf is *#$%@& hideous.

Posted by scotts0 from New York on 06/22/11 at 09:50 PM ET

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In what world is Paul Coffey considered better than Lidstrom?
- Garth

The one where Mike Green won the Vezina in 2008”

THUMP

Posted by Chris in Hockey Hell from Ann Arbor, MI but LIVING in Columbia, TN on 06/22/11 at 09:52 PM ET

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7

Norris Trophy wins.

That will never be matched.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste. Marie on 06/22/11 at 07:21 PM ET

I hope this was a joke. Lol Niedermayer and Bourque have won less and are better defencemen than Lidstrom.

Posted by cBleach88 on 06/22/11 at 09:52 PM ET

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Nashville comes in second to Detroit again. bwahahaha(!)

Posted by Chris in Hockey Hell from Ann Arbor, MI but LIVING in Columbia, TN on 06/22/11 at 09:53 PM ET

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The one where Mike Green won the Vezina in 2008

Posted by ChrisinA^2 from the switch is a lie on 06/22/11 at 08:43 PM ET

Awesome.

Posted by Forlorn in VA on 06/22/11 at 09:56 PM ET

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whatever, we all know it’s the truth so I’ll just say it.. King Lidas is the best D-man to play the game all around.  Longevity+offense+defensive prowess+leadership=greatest d-man to play the game. 

Not saying others weren’t great, but total package, career to career Lidstrom is the best..  THE BEST

Orr revolutionized the game, he’s a legend.. but you don’t count great by the number of Norris trophies you win.

With the super-athletes of our generation, these genetic freaks of nature.. Lidstrom has been successful (a freak in his own right) against them all for 19 seasons.  Made the playoffs his ENTIRE career.

Best defenseman of all time.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 06/22/11 at 10:12 PM ET

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....and the nerve of this guy to NOT take a significant paycut this season. HA! Epic, Lids.

Posted by godblender on 06/22/11 at 10:14 PM ET

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Best defenseman of all time.

Maybe, but I believe Orr was a better hockey player.

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 06/22/11 at 10:19 PM ET

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Not watching the show, did they at least spell & pronounce his name correctly??????

Posted by Down River Dan on 06/22/11 at 08:32 PM ET

I believe they spelled it correctly, but everyone who said it pronounced it wrong.  I cringed every time.

Posted by puppydogbones from Muskegon, currently stuck in Sabresland on 06/22/11 at 10:30 PM ET

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CONGRATULATIONS, NICK! 

(And DownRiverDan - the host, Jay Mohr, mispronounced his name - LiNdstrom AND mispronounced Stevie Y’s name as Wise-er-man.  raspberry)

Geezuz, Bettman, could you get a host who at least knows something about hockey next year?

Posted by MsRedWinger from Flori-duh on 06/22/11 at 10:31 PM ET

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I hope this was a joke. Lol Niedermayer and Bourque have won less and are better defencemen than Lidstrom.

Posted by cBleach88 on 06/22/11 at 08:52 PM ET

I hope this comment was a joke… Niedermayer and Bourque were great players in their own rights.. Bourque even scored more points than Lidstrom…. But back then it was easier to score more points so I call the points a wash… Which leave Lidstrom on top

Posted by tkfergy on 06/22/11 at 10:36 PM ET

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i hate the comparisons, how do you compare 2 quarterbacks if one payed before the forward pass, or before the spread offense?

how about basketball players before there was the paint, or dunks?

different eras will always be hard to compare, and i hockey they game changes very quickly, in my short lifetime we went form run and gun 80’s to clutch and grab 90’s to the ‘new’ NHL

Posted by joe on 06/22/11 at 11:03 PM ET

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Hells yeah!!

I literally shrieked when I read he won. I honestly wasn’t expecting it just based on the various pundits I’ve seen commenting throughout the year (who also have votes), plus it seemed everyone kept harping on his plus/minus.

but this one was so deserved. he really is perfection… even at 40. 

it has been pretty humorous to read some of these “who’s better than Lidstrom” posts because honestly, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone ever say Paul Coffey was a better d-man than Lids…. or Neidermeyer actually… or Bourque for that matter… never. The argument seems to always be over whether Lidstrom is better than Harvey or Orr. But it seems a near consensus amongst anyone with any knowledge that he’s AT LEAST top 3 ever.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 06/22/11 at 11:36 PM ET

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Nick Lidstrom remains the best NHL defenseman I’ve ever witnessed.  That’s all I feel comfortable saying without having watched Orr and Harvey play.

I already wasn’t a ‘How I Met Your Mother’ fan, but hearing Cobie Smulders call him “Lindstrom” on stage almost ruined an otherwise perfect moment.  I mean, yeah, Mohr did it too; but I already disliked Jay Mohr.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 06/22/11 at 11:41 PM ET

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Also Paul Coffey has only won 3 and Potvin won 2 and they are still considered better than Lidstrom.

Niedermayer and Bourque have won less and are better defencemen than Lidstrom.

Kwah???

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 06/22/11 at 11:52 PM ET

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Nick has been the best hockey player on the Wings team for 20 years, ask Stevie.
Anyone who says there’s an all around better player that Nick has been for 20 years is foolin’ themselves, regardless of position, longevity, playing key minutes & in all situations.
Stick tap to #5 for #7.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 06/23/11 at 12:09 AM ET

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Geezuz, Bettman, could you get a host who at least knows something about hockey next year?

The host should either have a) hockey knowledge or b) the ability to be funny and not look stiff, like he’s in an ill-fitting suit or something.

I would take either one.

I hate Jay Mohr.

Posted by Garth on 06/23/11 at 12:14 AM ET

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Nick has been the best hockey player on the Wings team for 20 years, ask Stevie.
Anyone who says there’s an all around better player that Nick has been for 20 years is foolin’ themselves, regardless of position, longevity, playing key minutes & in all situations.

Stick tap to #5 for #7.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 06/22/11 at 11:09 PM ET

You absolutely nailed it Mo.  As thrilled as I was to hear that Nick had won #7, there was part of me that is equally sickened by the idea that Corey Perry has won a Hart Trophy and Nick hasn’t, because that is a major freaking injustice.

I think maybe the overall excellence of his game just eludes some people.  It’s just too damn subtle.  He’s not the fastest skater, doesnt have the hardest shot and doesn’t play a particularly bruising physical game.  All he does is everything really, really well, is almost never out of position and always seems two steps ahead of everyone else on the ice.  And he has maintained this freakish level of play night in and night out against the opposition’s top players (as efficient a shut-down defenseman who has ever played the game and has averaged a shade under a point a game to boot) for TWENTY MOTHERFREAKIN’ YEARS.

Discounting for the moment the “best of all time” argument vs Doug Harvey or Bobby Orr (different eras and all that), I think the consensus among credible, smart hockey people is that, at the very least, Nick is the best defenseman of his era.  But I also think a credible argument could be made that he is quite possibly the best all-around hockey player of his era as well.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 06/23/11 at 01:05 AM ET

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Duncan Keith getting the votes he did is why this trophy should not be voted on by the media. It’s a popularity contest with half these writers not watching the games. Keith was the third best defenseman on the Hawks and somehow got 8 top 5 votes in the league. I’m not going to knock Lidstrom but Shea Weber in my mind was hamstrung with the medias tongue glued to Lidstoms sack.

Posted by AJRay on 06/23/11 at 02:03 AM ET

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Who voted for Brian Campbell? Their voting privileges needs to be taken away immediately.

Posted by dca from Alexandria, VA (Bugsy's Bar) on 06/23/11 at 03:28 AM ET

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Also Paul Coffey has only won 3 and Potvin won 2 and they are still considered better than Lidstrom. Just saying.

puckrules, you probably shouldn’t comment anymore.  congrats to nick.  Apparently half these people have never seen lidstrom play for the past 20 YEARS.  Niedermeyer was great but not even close.  Bourque is close. Who ever considered Coffey better?  Santa Clause?  Lidstrom is probably one of the top 3 defenseman of all-time.  It doesn’t matter that he wasn’t physical because he’s great defensively with his stick alone.  Offensively its obvious.  He’s won 7 and played against the top lines forever.  He’s lost a step skating wise but still great.

On a separate note this was probably the closest norris ever b/c there were no standouts.  I don’t know if Lidstrom should’ve won considering he was -2 but really there was nobody who conclusively who had the same offensive numbers, yet still defensively responsible.  (Sorry Yandle and Visnovsky).

Posted by statelouis26 from Detroit, MI on 06/23/11 at 03:46 AM ET

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by the way love the comment dca

Posted by statelouis26 from Detroit, MI on 06/23/11 at 03:50 AM ET

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Good to see that the judges weren’t blinded by the -2 to who really was the best all-around defenseman this season.  Makes up for the fact that if there had been any sense in them in his earlier career, he would have surpassed Orr’s count already.

At least they’ve come around.  Better late than never.

I believe they spelled it correctly, but everyone who said it pronounced it wrong.

Well, if anyone pronounces the first syllable like the thing you unscrew from the top of a jar and the second like what you do with a rhythm guitar, I expect Nick himself cringes.  Actually, he’s probably beyond that these days, but I’m still betting that nobody last night pronounced it ‘Leed-Stroehm.’  Just sayin’.

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 06/23/11 at 05:55 AM ET

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Maybe Nick didn’t deserve to win this year, but he should have won at least once maybe twice between 1998 and 2000.  He posted better numbers than the winner all three years.  It all equals out in the end.  McInnis was the sentimental favorite in 1999 because he arguably should have won in 1990 or 1991.  If Weber is consistent, he will his share of Norris trophies.

Posted by John from Detroit on 06/23/11 at 04:59 PM ET

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