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Red Wings-Sharks Game 3 quick take: Shades of 2000

The Red Wings rallied from a 1-0 deficit, got key goals on the power play, got to Antti Niemi, had their forecheck going, worked their butts off, played on even ground with the Sharks…and a fanned shot by Devin Setoguchi and a tip off Brian Rafalski’s stick…Yielded a 4-3 San Jose OT win and a very probable handshake line either on Friday or Sunday, thanks to one of their playoff nemeses in Devin Setoguchi, who had a hat trick.

The Red Wings face nearly insurmountable odds against the Sharks after losing yet another one-goal game and yet another overtime game after blowing a power play.

The Wings insist that they simply have to win the next game, but at this point, it feels like 1999-2000, when the Wings bumped into an “equal” team in the Colorado Avalanche, twice, and lost, twice. They endured another setback in 2001 before winning the Cup in 2002, and there’s no doubt in my mind that you’re simply not going to see many changes if the Wings are swept…But the puck luck hasn’t been with the Wings. The bounces haven’t been with the Wings. It’s tight but the Sharks are winning by that slim margin and it doesn’t look good right now.

This team won’t be scrapped if they lose. The personnel will largely return, with a few exceptions (Salei and Modano will exit, Mursak will enter, and who knows what the future holds for Draper or Osgood), and the if the Wings shake hands with the Sharks on Friday, you should assume that a very similar team will attempt to overcome the Sharks next year at this time.

Statistics:

Shots 41-38 Detroit overall, breaking down as 12-11 Detroit in the 1st period, 14-8 Detroit in the 2nd period, 16-8 San Jose in the 3rd period and 7-3 Detroit in OT.

The Wings went 2-for-4 in 6:38 of PP time; the Sharks went 2-for-4 in 5:35 of PP time.

Howard stopped 34 of 38; Niemi stopped 38 of 41.

The Wings’ goals: Lidstrom (2) from Zetterberg (1) and Holmstrom (4);

Eaves (3) from Helm (3) and Draper (1);

Datsyuk (3) from Zetterberg (2) and Lidstrom (3).

The 3 stars, per Pierre LeBrun, are Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik Zetterberg and Devin Setoguchi.

Faceoffs 35-31 San Jose (47% won by Detroit);

Blocked shots 24-11 San Jose;

Missed shots 16-11 Detroit (total attempts 81-60 Detroit);

Hits 36-20 Detroit;

Giveaways 9-4 Detroit;

Takeaways 13-5 Detroit.

Individual Stats:

Faceoffs Datsyuk went 13-and-6 (68%); Zetterberg went 6-and-10 (38%); Filppula went 5-and-6 (45%); Draper went 2-and-2 (50%); Helm went 2-and-2 (50%); Abdelkader went 1-and-3 (25%); Eaves went 0-and-2; Franzen went 0-and-2; Cleary went 1-and-1; Hudler went 1-and-1.

Shots: Datsyuk, Salei and Hudler co-led the team with 5 shots; Ericsson had 4; Abdelkader, Rafalski and Holmstrom had 3; Lidstrom, Eaves, Stuart, Bertuzzi and Franzen had 2; Cleary, Zetterberg and Kronwall had 1.

Blocked attempts: Eaves had 4 shot attempts blocked by Sharks players, as did Kronwall; Cleary and Franzen had 3 shot attempts blocked; Salei, Rafalski and Zetterberg had 2 shot attempts blocked; Abdelkader, Datsyuk, Filppula and Ericsson had 1 shot attempt blocked.

Missed shots: Salei and Rafalski missed the net 3 times; Abdelkader missed the net 2 times; Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Eaves, Hudler, Zetterberg, Helm, Franzen and Holmstrom missed the net 1 time.

Hits: Datsyuk and Bertuzzi had 5 hits; Cleary and Helm had 4; Hudler and Kronwall had 3; Abdelkader, Eaves and Franzen had 2; Stuart, Salei, Rafalski, Draper, Filppula and Ericsson had 1.

Giveaways: Stuart, Ericsson and Kronwall ahd 2 giveaways; Lidstrom, Datsyuk and Bertuzzi had 1.

Takeaways: Helm had 3 takeaways; Datsyuk had 2; Cleary, Rafalski, Zetterberg, Bertuzzi, Filppula, Kronwall, Franzen and Holmstrom had 1.

Blocked opponent shots: Kronwall blocked 3 shots; Datsyuk blocked 2; Lidstrom, Eaves, Salei, Rafalski, Zetterberg and Ericsson blocked 1 shot.

Penalties taken: Hudler, Rafalski, Draper and Helm took minor penalties.

Points: Zetterberg had 2 assists; Lidstrom had a goal and an assist for 2 points; Datsyuk and Eaves had goals; Draper, Helm and Holmstrom had assists.

Plus-minus: Rafalski and Ericsson were -2; Abdelkader, Cleary, Zetterberg and Franzen were -1; Salei, Draper and Kronwall were +1.

Ice time: Kronwall led the team with 25:02 played; Lidstrom played 23:59; Stuart played 23:18;

Zetterberg played 23:09; Rafalski played 22:57; Datsyuk played 22:26;

Ericsson played 22:18;  Salei played 21:08; Franzen played 20:08;

Filppula played 19:54; Holmstrom played 19:23; Cleary played 19:22;

Bertuzzi played 17:03;  Hudler played 16:54; Abdelkader played 14:00;

Helm played 11:44; Eaves played 9:48; Draper played 8:53.

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SnLO's avatar

this team is not that different in personnel to the one that won the Cup in 2008

Who would win head to head: 2008 or 2011?

2008
Chris Chelios
Danny Cleary
Pavel Datsyuk
Dallas Drake
Kris Draper
Valtteri Filppula
Johan Franzen
Mark Hartigan
Darren Helm
Tomas Holmstrom
Jiri Hudler
Niklas Kronwall
Brett Lebda
Nicklas Lidstrom
Andreas Lilja
Kirk Maltby
Darren McCarty
Brian Rafalski
Mikael Samuelsson
Brad Stuart
Henrik Zetterberg
Chris Osgood
Dominik Hasek

2011
Justin Abdelkader
Todd Bertuzzi
Danny Cleary
Pavel Datsyuk
Kris Draper
Patrick Eaves
Jonathan Ericsson
Valtteri Filppula
Johan Franzen
Darren Helm
Tomas Holmstrom
Jiri Hudler
Jakub Kindl
Niklas Kronwall
Nicklas Lidstrom
Drew Miller
Mike Modano
Brian Rafalski
Ruslan Salei
Brad Stuart
Henrik Zetterberg
Jimmy Howard
Joey MacDonald
Chris Osgood

Notable difference is not listed: McLellan and Mccrimmon

It’s hard to believe the 2011 version isn’t playing better hockey than we’ve seen.

Posted by SnLO from beyond the M-1 on 05/05/11 at 01:47 PM ET

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Well, that Phoenix series sure pulled the wool over our eyes. And let’s fact it: we were looking for something, anything, to ‘prove’ to us the Wings weren’t really as mediocre as we thought they’ve been since the post-Christmas schedule began.

But it is pretty clear now they are only a mediocre team. It’s also very clear there is no such thing as the “switch”. Sorry, Z, but Babs is 100% correct on this one.

How bad is it when the Wings start the 3rd with a one-goal-lead, and I tell the people I’m watching the game with that SJ wins in OT?

“Why??”, they asked, incredulously. “Because this team believes it is good enough to sit on leads, and it isn’t. Not even close”, I retort, gloomily.

They’ve become predictable now. Do they need a full-scale makeover? Of course not. But some serious tweaking is needed.

As they are now, they are too one-dimensional. Our offense is on fire, but we can’t clear the defensive zone, and our play in our D zone is horrid. Our D-zone play improves markedly, but we can’t score goals. Such has been most of this season. This current group is unable to engage in hockey’s version of multi-tasking.

Let’s just get this thing over with Friday so I can move on to summer mode.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 05/05/11 at 02:27 PM ET

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We may be stuck with him for one more season

Maybe.  I don’t know that he’s neccesarily untradeable though…  I think he could, whether it’s true or not, be seen a a guy who might flourish in a different role.  He could be a Ville Leino for some other team.  He definitely has an upside, when he bothers to show it.  And frankly, even if they can’t get much for him, making a trade similar to the Leino deal wouldn’t be half bad, if only to free up some the cap space.

And hey, the franchise is rich and everybody else is doing it, so how about paying him that $2.8M to play for the Grifs?

Posted by Garth on 05/05/11 at 02:28 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Let’s just get this thing over with Friday so I can move on to summer mode.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste. Marie on 05/05/11 at 01:27 PM ET

Why wait?

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 05/05/11 at 02:46 PM ET

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The way I see it, the Wings have the same problems in the playoffs that they displayed in the last half of the regular season. That would be poor defense, unable to protect a lead, poor penalty kill, losing in overtime. Phoenix was perhaps, the best team for the Wings to play in the first round because the Wings would not have beat Nashville, and would have had a hard series against either Vancouver or Chicago. I don’t want the Wings’ lineup gutted but I don’t think keeping the circa 2008 Red Wings intact is the way to go either as the league has improved too much. Jimmy is playing great but do we really need to resign Osgood? Draper is loved by everybody but how long can you keep him at his age? Do we need somebody with more size than Hudler that can still score as many goals? Is Franzen hurt or just lost his hustle? Rebuilding is tough for the Red Wings because of the salary cap and the lack of top draft picks but I think a few changes have to be made. I don’t think any of the top teams in the league are scared of the Wings at all right now.

Watch the Edmonton Oilers. They have been hanging around the cellar of the NHL but they are collecting their top draft picks and in about 5 years they will be making their run for the cup. Detroit does not have that luxury but at least pin point the deficiencies and try to do something about it and that usually means shaking up the lineup.

Posted by Mackster on 05/05/11 at 03:43 PM ET

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Why wait?

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 05/05/11 at 01:46 PM ET

Because Red Wings playoff hockey is my main focus come the post-season. Once they are gone, I pretty much tune-out hockey, and get in summer mode. I can’t do that when the Wings are still around…even if on life support

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 05/05/11 at 03:45 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

I can’t do that when the Wings are still around…even if on life support

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste. Marie on 05/05/11 at 02:45 PM ET

It’s a painful affliction, I know.  smile

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 05/05/11 at 03:53 PM ET

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Watch the Edmonton Oilers. They have been hanging around the cellar of the NHL but they are collecting their top draft picks and in about 5 years they will be making their run for the cup.

And in 7 years they’ll have to blow up the team again when they can’t afford everyone. That is not the formula for sustained success.  I don’t want a Rent-a-Cup team.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 05/05/11 at 04:24 PM ET

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And in 7 years they’ll have to blow up the team again when they can’t afford everyone.

Not if they don’t way overpay for a mediocre goalie and a mediocre defenseman or sign a good sniper to a way-too-long contract for too much money.

Posted by Garth on 05/05/11 at 08:10 PM ET

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