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Red Wings Wednesday practice post: Gustavsson, Ericsson practice, Franzen out, Tootoo waived

Updated 10x at 2:52 PM: The Red Wings got back to work after an "off day" on Tuesday, hoping to build upon their solid road trip as the team prepares to host the Dallas Stars on Thursday, the Tampa Bay Lightning on Saturday and, after a short trip to Toronto to attend Chris Chelios and Brendan Shanahan's Hockey Hall of Fame inductions, the Winnipeg Jets next Tuesday.

MLive's Ansar Khan delivered a predictably mixed set of injury news from the Wings' practice...

Wings' Franzen skating today, like he did on Monday, but working with bottom two lines, possible indication that he's not ready for Thurs.

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Ericsson has returned to practice but not eligible to come off long-term IR until the end of next week. Smith (shoulder) not skating.

Gustavsson might be ready to return since he has a net to himself as Coreau watches from the side.

And DetroitRedWings.com's Bill Roose offered something of a teaser regarding the Winter Classic's Alumni Showdown:

Spoke to #MapleLeafs Borje Salming. Said he isn't likely to play in #WinterClassic Alumni Showdown. He's tending to his mom who had surgery.

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Borje Salming said he was partnered on Sweden's blueline w/ #RedWings Nick Lidstrom in 1991 Canada Cup. The pair even roomed in the tourney.

Khan continued offering practice Tweets...

Based on the skate it looks like Samuelsson might be in for Tootoo tomorrow. he's skating with Helm and Miller while Franzen-Tootoo work in

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The other lines remain the same: 40-13-44, 71-90-11, 8-18-21, Eaves working in on top six so he's likely out tomorrow

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Franzen now on the bench talking to trainers, apparently not ready to return.

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Franzen has left practice.

As did the Macomb Daily's Chuck Pleiness...

Franzen appears out for Thursday's game with Dallas. In white and not skating on a line.

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Tootoo appears to be other healthy scratch.
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Franzen has left practice. Another sign he's out Thursday.
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Gustavsson appears ready to return to backup role. Hasn't left his end of the rink.

And the Detroit News's Gregg Krupa:

three goalies on ice, howard, gustavsson, coreau

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bertuzzi with datsyuk and zetterberg, right now. weiss alfredsson, cleary. andersson, tatar, tatar, abdelkader.

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franzen down with lashoff and eaves on a fifth line. franzen may not be ready.

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franzen skates off ice on to bench as more scrimmaging type drills begin.

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franzen heads to dressing room, now.

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franzen skated and shot early. participated in no drill that would expose him to impact. and then he left for the room.

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lots of emphasis here on some of the issues that remain, after exodus of rafalski, stuart, lidstrom -- exiting zone, moving thru center ice.

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babcock doing lots of work with a huddle of defensemen, nearing end of practice. lots of time with them.

The Wings' Twitter account was predictably a little slower on the up-take:

Practice just started here at The Joe; Big E and Mule are both skating with the #RedWings

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The Mule left practice early, looks like he's still not feeling 100 percent #RedWings

In slightly more traditionally-delivered news, in his "30 Thoughts" column, the CBC's Elliotte Friedman made a wise note of the difficulties the Wings may have in moving bodies once Ericsson and Brendan Smith return (Capgeek estimates that the Wings will have enough Long Term IR list-based cap relief to not need to move anyone cap-wise, but the roster will have 24 players)...

6. When discussing trades, remember, there are 20 teams within $2 million of the salary cap. There's not a lot of room yet, so unless you're really unencumbered (and within budget), you're saying, "For every dollar you give us, you are going to have to take."

And he mentioned Petr Mrazek's style of play, too:

26. At a time when goalies like Steve Mason are improving their careers by playing deeper in goal, we're seeing some new arrivals showing success by being aggressive. The first is Detroit's Petr Mrazek, who shut out Edmonton 5-0 last Saturday. Mrazek, the scouting report says, "has to play out of the paint to be effective." It also says he has no panic or anxiety.

Mrazek's still working on "getting out of the paint" instead of sliding back on to his goal line, and we do tend to forget that his reflexes make up for the fact that he's "small" by modern-day NHL goalie standards at a listed 6'1" and 187 pounds, with the latter figure being a little generous.

RedWingsCentral's weekly prospect report hit the wires this morning (via RedWingsFeed), and they noted that Tyler Bertuzzi's proving that he can do much more than fight:

With a one-goal, four-assist showing last Friday against the Kitchener Rangers, the Guelph Storm left-winger upped his numbers this season to 21 points in 16 games, tied for 25th in the Ontario Hockey League.

“It’s good to get the confidence up with five points,” Bertuzzi told GuelphStorm.com after his big game. “Me and Fabbs (Robby Fabbri), we had some chemistry, and it was working good for us.”

The Red Wings drafted Bertuzzi high relative to his Central Scouting ranking of 207th among North Americans, taking him in the second round, 58th overall, and comparing him to Chicago Blackhawks agitator Andrew Shaw.

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The 6-foot 178-pounder is just one point away from matching his 2012-13 point total of 22, recorded in an injury-shortened 43-game campaign. Overall this season he has five goals and 16 assists along with 32 penalty minutes and two fighting majors.

RedWingsCentral's prospect report also discusses the Wings' members of the CHL's "Subway Super Series" against a Russian prospect team (Anthony Mantha will represent the QMJHL, and Zach Nastasiuk and Jake Paterson will play for the OHL), Adam Almquist and Mrazek's recalls and Martin Frk's for-conidence-building's-sake demotion to the ECHL's Toledo Walleye.

If you're interested, the Grand Rapids Griffins Game Day Twitter account's providing updates from the Griffins schoolkids' matinee game against the Rockford IceHogs, which started at 11 AM...

In the prospect-you've-probably-forgotten-about department, Ben Marshall's a junior at the University of Minnesota. He's accurately listed at 5'9" and 179 pounds, but he does possess Rafalski-ish skating (pre-knee-disintegrating) ability and he's a superb puck-mover. He's registered a goal and 2 assists over the course of 6 games thus far, and he's highly likely to remain in college until he graduates, so the Wings won't have to make a decision regarding signing him or losing his NHL rights until the summer of 2015.

The Minnesota Daily's Megan Ryan penned something of a "human interest" story about Marshall and five of his junior-class teammates

[Seth] Ambroz and fellow forwards Kyle Rau, Sam Warning, Travis Boyd and Christian Isackson, as well as defenseman Ben Marshall, all share a house near campus.

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Though conflicts are inevitable in the house, Marshall said much of the tension is diffused on the ice. An extra check or a slightly-harder-than-necessary hit in practice is enough to resolve any problems. For the roommates, cleanliness is one of the major points of contention.

“Marshall’s a neat freak, apparently,” Ambroz said. “Every once in a while, he kind of has to clean the whole house and then tries to make us feel guilty for it, but that’s his decision.”

Warning said Marshall definitely believes he’s the cleanest.

“He likes to think he does the most chores in the house,” Warning said. “So I’ll have to give him credit there. He does a lot.”

Marshall said he isn’t ashamed to admit he’s the most responsible when it comes to the house. He said it’s just part of being the “alpha male” of the group.

“Marsh has this really weird idea in his head that he is like the alpha male of our house. … I have no idea where he got that from,” Boyd said. “So he likes to think he can boss people around for not taking the trash out or something. I think it’s part of my job to set him straight a little bit — to bring him down to earth.”

In the AHL-only-contracted prospect department, the Toledo Blade's Mark Monroe profiled Kellan Lynch, who the Wings signed to an AHL-only deal and assigned to the ECHL's Toledo Walleye...

Just seven games into the season, Walleye rookie Kevin Lynch sees great potential for his first pro hockey team and the young forward has already shown plenty of promise himself. Lynch, a 22-year-old from Grosse Pointe, Mich., has charged out of the gate for the Toledo Walleye. Lynch ranks third on the team in points with five with three goals and two assists. He is tied for sixth among all ECHL rookies in points.

“I'm happy with my start,” Lynch said. “I try to do anything to help my team out anyway I can. I like to create opportunities for my linemates.”

Toledo is off to a 3-3-1 start and sits in third place in the North Division.

“I have high hopes for this team,” Lynch said. “Early on we see the offensive upside.”

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Lynch said he has gotten advice from his former Michigan teammate Luke Glendening, who started his pro career in Toledo last season and has played in six games with the Detroit Red Wings this season.

“We're both from Michigan and he came down here last year,” Lynch said. “I'm not surprised with what he's been able to accomplish. He just told me to work hard and be dedicated and do all the little things. That will get you moving up the ladder and make you successful.”

Lynch, who was drafted by the Columbus Blue Jackets in 2009, signed a one-year contract with Detroit in September.

“I grew up watching the Red Wings. It's a first-class organization,” he said.

And the Grand Rapids Press's Peter J. Wallner noted that Chad Billins, who didn't catch on after signing an AHL-only contract with the Wings last season, made his NHL debut on Tuesday:

The Calgary Flames recalled the defenseman from the AHL's Abbotsford Heat. He made his debut Tuesday and had an assist on Juri Hudler's opening goal against Minnesota.

Billins, a defenseman who left Grand Rapids and signed as a free agent this past summer, had a team-high five goals and six points in 10 games this season.

“It was pretty exciting. It happened pretty fast,” Billins told the Calgary Sun. “It’s a thrill. When you first hear the words that you’re getting called up, you’re kind of nervous but you just have to stay focused and if you get the opportunity, you’ve gotta make the most of it.”

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Last season, Billins played a key role as the Griffins claimed the 2013 AHL Calder Cup championship. During regular-season, Billins had 37 points on 10 goals and a team second-best 27 assists in 76 games and made the all-star team. In the playoffs, he had 14 points (2-12-14) to lead all defenseman in playoff scoring.

With Ryan Sproul, Xavier Ouellet, Richard Nedomlel and Alexei Marchenko turning pro, and Adam Almquist dazzling on defense, the Wings just didn't have enough room for another small defenseman (Billins might be Marshall's size, give or take an inch), so he moved on to greener pastures.

Heading back to the NHL, ESPN's Craig Custance stated the obvious in an Insider-only blog entry discussig the "10 Biggest NHL Disappointments" thus far:

7. Stephen Weiss' offensive production. The signing of Weiss to a 5-year contract seemed like the perfect Red Wings offseason move. Bring in a talented player who underachieved elsewhere, engrain him in the Red Wings philosophy, hand him over to Mike Babcock and watch him blossom. Well, it's still a work in progress. Weiss has just three points in 16 games and is a minus-3. On a team that likes to control the puck, Weiss has a Relative Corsi of minus-12.1, the second-lowest on the team among regulars. And to add a bit of salt to the wound, the guy he replaced in Detroit, Valtteri Filppula, has 11 points in 14 games for the Lightning.

"He's been really, really good," Lightning assistant GM Julien BriseBois said of Filppula when we chatted recently. "He has a high hockey IQ. He's skilled, fast competitive. He calms things down for us. When he's on the ice, you can see he has things under control."

Regarding Weiss, I thought he'd have a difficult time adjusting to the Wings' system for the first dozen-or-so game as he's been playing dump-and-not chase hockey in the offensive zone and trap hockey instead of man-on-man defense, but I didn't think that he'd have this much trouble adjusting.

If you think the Wings will have a hard time moving Tootoo or Eaves (more on that below), lemme tell ya, as Don Cherry might say, that there is NO way that any team would take on Weiss and his $4.9 million salary.

The Wings are stuck with a 30-year-old center who's both coming off of left wrist surgery and is *definitely* a "work in progress," especially as compared to Filppula, but I'm still holding out hope that Weiss eventualy displays the kind of two-way consistency that tends to elude Filppula over the course of an 82-game season.

You may read the Tampa Bay Times' Erik Erlendsson's Q and A with Steve Yzerman if you wish to do so, mostly because the Bolts come to Detroit on Saturday after hosting the Edmonton Oilers, who are likely to bolster Tampa Bay's 10-4-and-0 record.

Cue the end of practice, per the Free Press's Helene St. James...

Someone just got told to go play outside. Only fun till someone loses an eye. #redwings http://pic.twitter.com/y9mzdFUgO3

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Red Wings D Jonathan Ericsson said he'll be ready to return from shoulder injury against Capitals a week from Friday.

And DetroitRedWings.com's Bill Roose:

Jonathan Ericsson (shoulder) said he hopes to be ready to return for the #RedWings game vs. @washcaps next Friday.

Well wouldn't you know it. As the post-practice quips and quotes hit, TVA Sports' Renaud Lavoie and TSN's Bob McKenzie reported that the Wings waived Jordin Tootoo. At a $1.9 million cap hit for the next two seasons, he's not all that attractive in terms of a waiver pick-up, but he'd clear that 24th roster spot when Ericsson and Smith return, as well as $975,000 of Capgeek-estimated cap space.

The Wings would have to move one more body to recall Gustav Nyquist, whose waiver-exempt status expires in two games, but the news didn't surprise the Free Press's St. James...

And as I'd written might happen, Red Wings have placed Jordin Tootoo on waivers. Need the $1.9 million cap room, roster spot

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#RedWings would get $925,000 in cap relief if Jordin Tootoo not claimed, just sent to minors. Has 2 years, $3.8m left.

Nor Fox Sports Detroit's Art Regner:

Tootoo on waivers, could be just the beginning.  Except Toots to clear and be a Griffin.  Wings to get $950,000 in cap relief, I believe.

Soon after the news hit, MLive's Khan confirmed...

Wings waived Tootoo. Has until noon tomm. To clear. Wings would get 925,000 in cap relief is he isn't claimed

The Macomb Daily's Pleiness confirmed...

Wings have placed Tootoo on waivers.

And DetroitRedWings.com's Roose confirmed, too:

The #RedWings have placed forward Jordin Tootoo on waivers.

Scroll up for Friedman's "thought" about 20 teams being $2 million or closer to the cap.

The Free Press's St. James also confirmed in article form:

The Detroit Red Wings have put little-used forward Jordin Tootoo on waivers.

General manager Ken Holland told the Free Press that Tootoo will be assigned to Grand Rapids if he is not claimed by another NHL team by Thursday's noon deadline. That would give the Wings $925,000 in cap room.

More to come on this story.

Update #1: The Free Press's St. James confirms that Franzen's out on Thursday...

No Johan Franzen for Red Wings against Dallas.

Khan offered this about Tootoo...

Babcock said waiving Tootoo comes down to numbers, they have too many RW. Said they want to give him chance to play elsewhere.

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Babcock said if Tootoo clears they'll decide tomorrow what to do. They could keep him on roster or send him down and recall Nyquist.

Roose updated Franzen's status...

Babcock said the #RedWings will go without Johan Franzen again Thursday vs. @DallasStars. Said he's "not sure what problem is."

And Pleiness posted a Babcock video:

Update #2: The Free Press's St. James says Tootoo will head to GR:

The Detroit Red Wings have put little-used forward Jordin Tootoo on waivers.

General manager Ken Holland told the Free Press that Tootoo will be assigned to Grand Rapids if he is not claimed by another NHL team by Thursday's noon deadline. That would give the Wings $925,000 in cap room.

Tootoo has two years and $3.8 million remaining on his contract. Signed in 2012 to add an element of grit, Tootoo never really fit into the Wings' system. He was a healthy scratch in last season's playoffs and is minus-4 in eight appearances this season.

More to come on this story.

Update #3: It took a while, Red Wings:

UPDATE: The #RedWings have placed Jordin Tootoo on waivers.

And Khan and MLive's Josh Slaghter are mucking up the mix:

General manager Ken Holland said the decision to waive Tootoo comes down to numbers, and the Red Wings just have too many right wings.

If Tootoo clears waivers, it's not a given he will be assigned to the Grand Rapids Griffins, Holland said.

The move could pave the way for Detroit to recall forward Gustav Nyquist from Grand Rapids. Entering today's game, Nyquist led the Griffins with 15 points, and he's already added two more goals.

Update #3.5: I agree with Fox Sports Detroit's Art Regner here, even though waiving Mikael Samuelsson, who can be moved despite having a no-trade clause, would yield no cap relief as he's on an over-35 deal:

Tootoo is $925,000 in cap relief, Sammy could be next. Bert is playing well and Clears is here to stay. #RedWings #Detroit #NHL

Ditto for the Detroit News's Krupa's note:

babcock says waiving tootoo makes sense because of his lack of ice time and others pushing for more of it.

Update #4: Here's the Macomb Daily's Chuck Pleiness offering quips and quotes about Tootoo:

“This is the situation here, we have too many right wingers,” Wings coach Mike Babcock said. “We’re not giving him a fair opportunity. He’s done nothing wrong. He’s played hard. He’s been a good teammate. He’s done all those things right. We’ll see what happens.”

If he’s not claimed by noon Thursday the plan is to assign him to Grand Rapids. If he’s unclaimed it’ll free up $925,000 from the salary cap.

“If Toot’s can get himself a place to play, where he gets to play every night that’s fantastic, good for him,” Babcock said. “If not, we’ll talk to him tomorrow and we’ll figure out what we’re doing here tomorrow.”

Tootoo, who has played in eight games this season and has yet to record a point, has one more year left on a three-year deal that paid him $1.9 million a season.

“It’s just a numbers game,” Babcock said. “That’s reality. I think Toot’s is a good man, good teammate and a good player.”

Tootoo began the year on injured reserve with a bruised shoulder.

The move could also help get Gustav Nyquist back in a Wings uniform. The move to send Nyquist down to Grand Rapids was an unpopular one, but he also got caught up in a numbers games. Nyquist, who has a cap it of $950,000, didn’t have to clear waivers to be assigned to Grand Rapids. However, if he plays two more NHL games he will lose that exemption.

Update #5: From St. James...

New dad Jonathan Ericsson on having been at home while Red Wings were in Canada:  "I think I'm leading the diaper-changing league."

Who added a Babcock quote to her story on the subect of waiving Tootoo...

"This is the situation here — we have too many right wingers," coach Mike Babcock said. "We're not giving him a fair opportunity. He's done nothing wrong. He's played hard, he's been a good teammate. All those things. We'll see what happens. If Toots can get himself a place to play, that he gets to play every night, that'd be fantastic. And good for him."

And Regner, as stated yesterday on Detroit Sports 105.1:

I would not trade Brendan Smith, I would seriously consider eventually moving him to forward.  He could flourish up front. #RedWings #NHL

For what it's worth, the Edmonton Journal's David Staples believes that Tootoo's salary is a non-starter for any team looking to add toughness.

The Detroit Red Wings have placed Jordin Tootoo on waivers. Should the Edmonton Oilers claim him? In three words: not a chance.

Yes, Tootoo would likely be a fan favourite, at least for the first handful of games, just like banger Mike Brown made a good first impression. Tootoo is a fast skater and a hard hitter.

But here’s the downside:

1. For a grinder, he’s old. He’s 30 now, tons of hard miles. If we were talking about Jordin Tootoo at age 24 or 25, when he was younger and healthier and almost certainly keener to go through a brick wall to make a play, that’d be different. In eight games this year, Tootoo has zero points and just five minutes in penalties. He’s been trending down for two years now in terms of production.

2. There are easier fixes for the Oilers fourth line. Yes, the fourth line has been disappointing, getting badly outshot when the likes of Will Acton, Luke Gazdic, Mike Brown and Ben Eager have been on the ice. But why not fix that simply by going with better hockey players who are already on-hand, such as Anton Lander, Linus Omark and, when Taylor Hall and Jesse Joensuu get healthy, either Ryan Jones, Ryan Smyth or Joensuu?

3. The Oilers are already pressed up against the cap and Tootoo will make $1.9 million this year AND next year. That’s the real killer. He’s far too costly for what he might bring. There are cheaper and almost certainly better hockey players available.

4. Detroit would likely love to lose this contract, to free up cap space for their own use. Why help them unless the pay off for the Oilers is likely to be substantial?

5. Is he really any better than Ben Eager? I doubt it.

Update #6: The Detroit News's Gregg Krupa offers his take on the situation:

With a logjam of forwards and pending difficulty with the salary cap, especially when top-two defenseman Jonathan Ericsson comes off the injury list, the Wings were anticipating changes.

"The situation here is we have too many right-wingers," coach Mike Babcock said. "We're not giving him a fair opportunity. He's done nothing wrong. He's played hard. He's been a good teammate."

All of the NHL teams can now claim Tootoo. But if he remains unclaimed, the Red Wings face a further decision.

"We'll see what happens,” Babcock said. “If Toots can get himself a place to play, where he'll play every night, that'd be fantastic. And good for him; he's in the last year of his deal. If not, then we'll talk to him and figure it out tomorrow."

Babcock said in May that Tootoo was not playing in the playoffs, based on his aggressively physical style of play, which can cause penalties that must be avoided at that time of the season.

Update #7: Per Pleiness...

Holland texts there is no chance Nyquist will be recalled from Grand Rapids for Thursday's game against Dallas.

And Khan:

Wings' GM Ken Holland said there is no chance Gustav Nyquist will be recalled from Grand Rapids for tomorrow's game.

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Also, Babcock confirmed that Johan Franzen not ready to play tomorrow. Jonas Gustavsson (neck) said he is ready to backup Howard tomorrow.

Khan penned an article about Tootoo's status:

“It’s just a numbers game. That’s reality,’’ Babcock said. “I think Toots is a good man, good teammate and a good player.’’

The Red Wings placed Tootoo on waivers on Wednesday. He has until noon Thursday to clear. If he’s claimed the entire remaining portion of his contract (this season and next season at $1.9 million per) comes off the Red Wings’ salary cap.

If Tootoo, 30, is not claimed, the Red Wings have the option of assigning him to the Grand Rapids Griffins. However, they would receive only $925,000 in cap relief if he’s sent to the AHL.

“We have too many right wingers; we’re not giving him a fair opportunity,’’ Babcock said. “He’s done nothing wrong. He’s played hard. He’s been a good teammate. He’s done all those things right.

“We’ll see what happens. If Toots can get himself a place to play where he gets to play every night that’s fantastic, good for him. If not, we’ll talk to him tomorrow and we’ll figure out what we’re doing here tomorrow.’’

General manager Ken Holland said there is "no chance'' that skilled young forward Gustav Nyquist will be recalled from Grand Rapids for Thursday's game against the Dallas Stars at Joe Louis Arena (7:30 p.m., Fox Sports Detroit).

Update #8: The Free Press's Helene St. James penned a practice article not involving Tootoo, but instead, discussing Jonathan Ericsson's status as both a new dad as well as player recovering from a shoulder injury:

Ericsson has been out the last seven games - missing Detroit’s four-game trip to Western Canada last week - because of a left shoulder socket injury suffered nearly three weeks ago at Phoenix. He said he’ll be ready to play Nov. 15 when the Wings host the Washington Capitals, the soonest Ericsson is eligible to play because of having been put on Long-Term Injured Reserve.

“I’ve been here alone a lot, the last week or so,” Ericsson said Wednesday. “I’ve been doing some skating by myself, so it was nice to see some guys on the ice with me.”

The silver lining of having been stayed at home has been spending time with his wife, Evelina, and their newborn daughter, Liv.

“Evelina’s been grateful for me to be able to stay home and help out as best as I can,” Ericsson said. “It’s been good for me to spend extra time with the little one. “

Does a sore shoulder get him out of diaper duty? Definitely not.

“I think I’m leading the diaper-changing league,” Ericsson said, smiling. “I’m good.”

She posted a video of Ericsson speaking about his "issues":

Update #9: Meanwhile, regarding the Red Wings' Thursday opponent, the Dallas Stars, who defeated the Boston Bruins 3-2 in a shootout on Tuesday...

From the Dallas News' Mike Heika...

Stars had a light practice today at Joe Louis Arena. Jamie Benn and Kari Lehtonen were given maintenance days.

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Lines were: Cole-Seguin-Nichushkin, Whitney-Eakin-Chiasson, Roussel-Fiddler-Garbutt, MacDermid-Horcoff-Peverley

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Lindy Ruff said the lines really didn't mean anything. They were just for practice. D-pairs were scrambled.

And the Free Press's Helene St. James...

Detroit is never far from Jim Nill's mind nor heart.

Now the general manager of the Dallas Stars — whom the Detroit Red Wings host Thursday — Nill spent nearly two decades with the Wings, running their draft, heading up the scouting department and serving as assistant to general manager Ken Holland.

Nill took the Dallas job in April. He was in Detroit as recently as last month, when he ran in the Detroit Free Press/Talmer Bank half-marathon. "Took a wrong turn at some point," Nill said, smiling. "I ended up running two miles out of the way."

Nill has made some bold moves since taking over the Stars, most notably so when he traded highly regarded Loui Eriksson for Boston Bruins star and former Plymouth Whaler Tyler Seguin. The Stars are off to a 7-6-2 start this season.

Watch the video above to hear Nill talk about his biggest decision, how often he talks with Holland and a memory about a very young Pavel Datsyuk.

Make it "below":

Update #10: For what it's worth, The Hockey News's Darryl Dobbs believes that Stephen Weiss isn't someone to give up on just yet...

Stephen Weiss came from the Panthers to the Red Wings, so he basically went from the first line to the second line in Detroit. Although he is playing with more talent, he does get a reduced amount of ice time. In my league I’m trading Weiss for Troy Brouwer. Who wins that trade? My league has goals, assists, plus-minus, penalty minutes, power play points, hits and blocked-shots.
Michael, Mississauga, Ont.

Despite the slow start (even slower than Brouwer’s) and the small loss in penalty minutes, I would still rather have Weiss. Sure, maybe that last injury he recovered from started a downward spiral, but I always like to take the chance on the upside if I can handle the downside.

MLive's Khan penned a non-Tootoo-related practice update...

Franzen (upper-body injury) skated for about 30 minutes Wednesday before leaving the ice. Coach Mike Babcock said he will not play Thursday against the Dallas Stars at Joe Louis Arena (7:30 p.m., Fox Sports Detroit). Franzen has missed three of the past four games. He played the first two periods last Friday against Calgary before feeling nauseous and leaving.

“I don’t know what the schedule is on Mule, I just know he’s not feeling good,’’ Babcock said.

Ericsson (shoulder subluxation) practiced with the team Wednesday for the first time since his injury Oct. 19 in Phoenix. He had been skating by himself at Joe Louis Arena during the four-game road trip. Ericsson said he believes he’ll be ready to play once he is eligible to come off LTIR, prior to the Nov. 15 game vs. Washington. Players on LTIR must sit out a minimum of 10 games and 24 days.

“It feels good right now; I can do pretty much anything on the ice,’’ Ericsson said. “ It’s just a matter of seeing how much I can take, all the hits and bumping. That’s the only question mark.’’

Goaltender Jonas Gustavsson (stiff neck) said he's ready to come off short-term injured reserve and back-up Jimmy Howard on Thursday. The Red Wings will reassign goalie Jared Coreau, who joined them for practice Wednesday.

And RedWingsFeed found that NHL.com has posted a video profile of Chris Chelios's career "By the Numbers"...

And they did the same for Brendan Shanahan:

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Comments

SYF's avatar

Borje Salming said he was partnered on Sweden’s blueline w/ #RedWings Nick Lidstrom in 1991 Canada Cup. The pair even roomed in the tourney.

Man, to be a fly on the proverbial wall to hear the conversations between those two guys.

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 11/06/13 at 02:21 PM ET

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We need defensively reliable 4 liners. Tootoo, with all his energy, just isn’t reliable enough. They definitely need Nyquist on the team for his speed and energy. I still think they should run these lines:
Mule - Dat - Bert ( Dat can make Mule the most productive)
Zetty - Weiss - Alfie (with Z and Alfie on Weiss line, how can he not produce)
Nyq - Andy - Tatar (speed, skill and familiarity)
Abby - Helm - Cleary (heavy and reliable)

Play 1st line 18min a night avg
Play 2nd line 18min
Play 3rd line 12min
Play 4th line 12min

Posted by Anderj8 on 11/06/13 at 02:51 PM ET

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Once Florida picked up a bunch of scrubs and former tryouts at the end of training camp, there was no place left for Tootoo.  KH sat on his hands FAR too long.  He promised moves at the draft, remember?  Lots more teams had roster and cap space at that time.

Posted by jkm2011 on 11/06/13 at 03:04 PM ET

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...I think I’m over Franzen.

Really, I read that he’s not ready and think nothing of it. Like it doesn’t affect the team at all.

Posted by CrimsonPhoenix on 11/06/13 at 03:24 PM ET

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Posted by Anderj8 on 11/06/13 at 01:51 PM ET

Seriously?

Posted by SK77 on 11/06/13 at 03:26 PM ET

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The eternal problem with the Tootoo signing is that it was a dumb move from day one, hour one, minute one, second one.

Sometimes when you do something stupid enough from the jump there’s no real way to recover.  Yeah, it would have been nice if Holland would have found some ferociously stupid GM to take Tootoo off his hands months ago… but that’s like saying it would have been nice if some player would have been able to skate 70 mph to recover from a stupid turnover in the offensive zone.

Sometimes the mistake is too big to make up for.

Holland’s one of the best two or three GMs in the NHL but he’s not perfect. 

Posted by HockeyinHD on 11/06/13 at 03:30 PM ET

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...I think I’m over Franzen.

Posted by CrimsonPhoenix on 11/06/13 at 02:24 PM ET

I was over Franzen 3 years ago. He is what he is: A big guy who is hurt a lot, plays weak on the puck, and can shoot.

And he’s only going to get worse.

Think about that. He is signed through 2020 and this, right now, is as good as he’s ever going to be.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 11/06/13 at 03:32 PM ET

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Posted by Anderj8 on 11/06/13 at 01:51 PM ET

What is wrong with you?

Posted by Garth on 11/06/13 at 04:13 PM ET

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We might have like.. a few more Stanley cups if Holland chose hossa over franzen…

Posted by Pasha1277 on 11/06/13 at 04:16 PM ET

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Hossa had a fantastic 09-10 season, but since that time, he’s been battling chronic injuries. He hasn’t been utterly fantabulous since leaving Detroit. He’s been up and down, and while he’s a better player, he’s also a very fragile one.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 11/06/13 at 04:20 PM ET

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We might have better production out of Franzen if they hadn’t given him a lifetime contract that would allow him to not give a shit about having to earn a paycheck anymore.

Posted by Garth on 11/06/13 at 04:32 PM ET

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Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 11/06/13 at 03:20 PM ET

Actually, he only missed significant time two times, one of which was when he had off-season surgery, and over those two years, in which he played 31 fewer games than Franzen he only had three fewer goals.

He played 81 games (vs Franzen’s 76) in 11-12 and 40 games (vs Franzen’s 41) last year and he’s played in all of their games this year, scoring more goals and points over that period.

And I also haven’t heard (though admittedly I’ve not been paying that much attention) that the Blackhawks have to shuffle their lineups in order to hopefully get Hossa engaged in the games.

I know, I know, hindsight is 20/20, but I’m just saying…

Posted by Garth on 11/06/13 at 04:42 PM ET

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Ugh, the Hossa debate again?  No.  Stop it.

Posted by maltby18 on 11/06/13 at 05:03 PM ET

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You stop it.

Posted by Garth on 11/06/13 at 05:11 PM ET

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Ugh, the Hossa debate again?  No.  Stop it.

I agree. There really is no debate anyway. Hossa is the much better hockey player.

Posted by godblender on 11/06/13 at 05:45 PM ET

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Didn’t you guys hear? Franzen is out because of menstrual cramps. He’ll be back in a week or so.

Posted by ZandPasha11 on 11/06/13 at 06:18 PM ET

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The eternal problem with the Tootoo signing is that it was a dumb move Let’s add that to drafting Nyquist, not signing the make-believe 1st line defenseman, and not playing Sammy on every line in every game. Holland and Babs must be horrible in your eyes.

Sometimes when you do something stupid I’m so glad you admit you know something about doing stupid things. Your credibility just went up in my eyes.

Sometimes the mistake is too big to make up for. Nice set up, that’s what your mom said.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 11/06/13 at 09:19 PM ET

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