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Red Wings sign Stephen Weiss to 5 years, $4.9 million per year

Updated 8x at 4:54 PM: Farewell, Valtteri Filppula: the Red Wings have decided to replace Filppula with Stephen Weiss:

This went down weirdly...

Update: Per MLive's Ansar Khan:

Weiss, 30, is a good skater with offensive skills, the ability to set up teammates and finish himself. He has scored 20 or more goals four times in the past seven seasons and is a good a two-way player. He is a left-handed shooter.

The biggest concern is his size (5-11, 190).

Weiss, the former Plymouth Whaler (OHL), played his entire career with the Florida Panthers, who selected him with the fourth overall pick in the 2001 entry draft.

He missed the final 26 games of the season with a wrist injury and finished with one goal and three assists, along with a minus-13 rating, in 17 games.

He has appeared in 654 career games, picking up145 goals and 249 assists for 394 points and a minus-17 rating. He has appeared in the playoffs only once, during the Panthers' seven-game first-round loss to the New Jersey Devils in 2012. He has three goals and two assists in that series.

He was often referred to as “Weisserman'' earlier in his career because of his similarities to former Red Wings captain Steve Yzerman.

Not really. Wings can exceed summer cap by 10%.

Update #1.5:

Update #2:

The Sun-Sentinel's Harvey Filakov confirms:

A few hours later they bid farewell to co-captain center Stephen Weiss, the franchise’s all-time leader in games played and assists, who signed with the Detroit Red Wings for a reported $4.9 million a year in a five-year deal. Weiss earned $3.1 million in his final season of a six-year deal worth $18.6 million.

Weiss, 30, the Panthers fourth overall pick of the 2003 draft , had four seasons of 20 or more goals and has 145 goals with a franchise-high 249 assists in 654 games, also a franchise record, over 10 seasons.

After scoring just one goal with three assists in 17 games last season before opting for season-ending wrist surgery, Weiss’ goal total is fourth in team history, 43 behind leader Olli Jokinen. His 394 points are second to Jokinen’s 419.

Update #2.5: The Macomb Daily's Chuck Pleiness confirms:

With the signing, Weiss in all likelihood could center the second line with another newcomer Daniel Alfredsson and Henrik Zetterberg. That would make the top line consist of Pavel Datsyuk, Johan Franzen and Justin Abedelkader.

Weiss, 30, was on the top on the Wings’ second line center shopping list.

Weiss, who played for the Plymouth Whalers, had spent his entire career with the Florida Panthers where he’s their all-time leader in games played.

Weiss made $4.1 million last season.

He was the fourth overall pick by the Panthers in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft.

Weiss, who has only played in the playoffs once in his career, does lack size (5-foot-11, 190 pounds), but has an offensive upside, scoring 20 or more goals four times in the past seven seasons. He’s also stronger in faceoffs compared to Ribeiro.

Update #3: The Free Press's Helene St. James confirms:

Weiss, on the other hand, gives the Wings the no. 2 center they badly wanted, someone who will allow them to play Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk on the same line.

Alfredsson's deal, with a salary cap hit of $3.5 million, is heavy on bonuses that can, if needed, be deferred to 2014-15, when the salary cap will rise above next season's $64.3 million.

Alfredsson and Weiss give Detroit 14 forwards under contract for next season, a number that will grow by two when restricted free agents Joakim Andersson and Gustav Nyquist are re-signed. There are numerous questions, though, that hang over that current roster, including whether Darren Helm and Mikael Samuelsson will be able to play next season after both spent almost all of last season injured.

Alfredsson, who has captained Ottawa since 1999, has played 17 seasons for the Senators, who picked him in the sixth round in 1994. He's got 426 goals and 682 assists for 1,108 points in 1,178 career games. He has 51 goals and 49 assists for 100 points in 122 playoff games.

Weiss, 30, has spent his whole career with the Florida Panthers, who made him the fourth overall pick in the 2001 NHL draft (he played locally for the Plymouth Whalers in his youth). Weiss has 145 goals and 249 assists in 654 games, along with five points in seven playoff games.

Update #4:

Update #4.5:

Some Michigan ties? Why yes, Michigan Hockey's Michael Caples:

After playing three seasons with the Plymouth Whalers of the Ontario Hockey League from 1999-2002, Stephen Weiss is coming back to Michigan, signing a five-year deal with the Detroit Red Wings.

Weiss tallied 223 points in 172 games with the Whalers, leading him to be drafted fourth overall by the Florida Panthers in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft. He has spent his entire NHL career with Florida, and holds the franchise record for most games played in a Panthers sweater.

The 30-year-old will likely become Detroit’s new second-line center, filling a hole in the Wings’ line-up that is expected to come from the departure of Valtteri Filppula. Due to a wrist injury, Weiss played in only 17 games last season, but generally is durable and can play on both the power play and penalty kill.

And the Windsor Star's Bob Duff weighs in:

Two guys who were the faces of their respective franchises will both don the winged wheel for the 2013-14 National Hockey League season.

The Detroit Red Wings have made their second significant move of the NHL’s free-agent period, adding Florida Panthers centre Stephen Weiss via a five-year, US $24.5-million pact.

Earlier in the day, the Wings signed Ottawa Senators right-winger Daniel Alfredsson to a one-year contract.

Alfredsson, 40, who’d played his entire 17-season NHL career with the Senators and captained the team since 1999, agreed to a one-year deal with a base salary of US $3.5 million with incentive clauses that could bring the pact up to $5.5 million.

Weiss, 30, a former Plymouth Whaler, has played a franchise-record 654 games for the Panthers. Surgery on his right wrist last March limited him to 17 games last season, but he scored at least 20 goals in each of the three previous seasons, including career-high 28-32-60 numbers in 2009-10.

A guy known for playing a 200-foot game, Weiss earned the nickname “Weisserman” while with the OHL Whalers from people who felt his two-way game was comparable to that of then-Red Wings captain Steve Yzerman. He was selected fourth overall in the 2002 NHL entry draft.

Update #5: DetroitRedWings.com's Bill Roose confirms:

With Valtteri Filppula testing the free agency waters, the Red Wings were looking for his replacement to take over the center spot on their second line. Weiss has the creativity and distribution skills to make his linemates better.

Another solid two-way center in the Red Wings’ mix, Weiss’s skill set should blend perfectly with the team’s puck-possession style. The Weiss acquisition also will allow coach Mike Babcock to keep Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk together on the top line with winger Justin Abdelkader.

Detroit’s second line could perhaps feature Weiss in the middle between wingers Johan Franzen and Daniel Alfredsson, who agreed to a one-year contract to leave Ottawa earlier in the day.

Weiss, the Panthers’ all-time franchise leader in games played (654) and assists (249) is coming back from wrist surgery last March. The injury undoubtedly contributed to his light numbers last season with only one goal on 19 shots in 17 games.

Weiss, 30, played three OHL seasons with the Plymouth Whalers in suburban Detroit. He led the Whalers in scoring in back-to-back seasons producing 87- and 70-point seasons in 2000-01 and 2001-02. The 5-foot-11 Toronto native was the fourth overall pick in the 2001 NHL draft.

Red Wings forward Patrick Eaves has played against Weiss, but suspects that the newcomer will need some time to get acclimated to his new surroundings.

“I know from my own experiences of going to a different team you’re not extremely comfortable right away,” Eaves said. “The guys here are great, even when I first walked in they were unbelievable. But it will be a new place for him, it’s life, and will take a little time. I just know that he’s a really good player.”

Update #5.5: The Detroit News's Ted Kulfan confirms.

Update #6: Um, uh:

Update #7: More on Weiss from the Miami Herald's George Richards:

The Panthers watched teams with money to spend snap up some of the top free agents once the market opened at noontime Friday. As expected, even one of their own moved on.

Stephen Weiss, the franchise leader in games played, signed a five-year deal worth close to $5 million per season with the Detroit Red Wings.

Weiss' signing will be secondary news in Detroit as the team also lifted Sens' captain Daniel Alfredsson.

Panthers general manager Dale Tallon said as late as Tuesday that the team was working to keep Weiss in South Florida.

It is unknown how far apart the two sides were, although since Weiss made $4.1 million in real money last year (well, he didn't because of the lockout), a 10 percent raise would have brought him to $4.5 million per season at least.

It's not known to me right now how much the Panthers offered -- and if they made a legitimate offer at all.

Update #8: Here's the official release:


... Center to Play in Hockeytown Through 2017-18 Season …

Detroit, MI... Detroit Red Wings Executive Vice President and General Manager Ken Holland today announced that the club has agreed to terms with free agent forward Stephen Weiss on a five-year contract.  In accordance with team policy, additional terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Weiss, 30, was a first-round selection of the Florida Panthers (fourth overall) in the 2001 National Hockey League Entry Draft.   The 5-11, 193-lb. center has appeared in 654 career regular season games, all with Florida, and has collected 394 career points (145G-249A-394P).  Weiss ranks in the top-five in Panthers history in games played (654-first), assists (249-first), points (394-second), power-play goals (48-third) and goals (145-fourth).  The Toronto, Ont., native has skated in seven career postseason games registering five points (3G-2A-5P).

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Tuba Guy's avatar

I like it

Posted by Tuba Guy from Royal Oak, MI on 07/05/13 at 02:20 PM ET

tkfergy's avatar

Better than the $6 mil figure… I like it…

Posted by tkfergy on 07/05/13 at 02:20 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

Done?  Sure this time?

Posted by RWBill on 07/05/13 at 02:21 PM ET


That term and hit are in line with what’s been happening today. There was no way Detroit was going to pay anyone $6 million.

Posted by godblender on 07/05/13 at 02:22 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

“Capgeek temporarily unavailable”  Lolol

Posted by RWBill on 07/05/13 at 02:22 PM ET

Mandingo's avatar

Like the cap hit.

With this and the Bozak cap hit, Filppula may really regret playing hardball.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 07/05/13 at 02:23 PM ET

shanetx's avatar

I like this.

Valteri Filppula is in for a rude awakening.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 07/05/13 at 02:24 PM ET

mrfluffy's avatar

See? My advice on drinking bloody marys this morning was spot on.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/05/13 at 02:24 PM ET

Wings_in_NYC's avatar

Yeah funny how there is no Fil news. Maybe the next headline is Filppula Fires Agent.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 07/05/13 at 02:25 PM ET

Mandingo's avatar

Valteri Filppula is in for a rude awakening.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 07/05/13 at 02:24 PM ET

I don’t see how he gets more than $4.5 per year at this point.

Be kinda funny if he ended up going to St. Louis…

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 07/05/13 at 02:25 PM ET

Chris in Hockey Hell's avatar

Weiss chose Detroit over St. Louis. Hahahahaha!

Posted by Chris in Hockey Hell from Ann Arbor, MI but LIVING in Columbia, TN on 07/05/13 at 02:28 PM ET

shanetx's avatar

Be kinda funny if he ended up going to St. Louis…

I’m feeling one year contract in Anaheim.  Play with Uncle Teemu for a year and try the waters next year when the cap is better.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 07/05/13 at 02:31 PM ET

Vladimir16's avatar

You mean I don’t have to watch Filppula enter the zone with the puck and peel off to the boards ever again?!?!!! YYEESSSSS.
Posted by some kid on 07/05/13 at 02:24 PM ET

Yeah, the thought of that makes me happy.

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 07/05/13 at 02:32 PM ET

MurrayChadwick's avatar

Weiss sounds like a nice sign, small but gritty, can score not just setup. Anyone else have the lowdown on this guy?  I don’t think I watched one panthers game the last 2-3 years.

Watch Fil sign for $4mln for 3 years, and Brunner for $2.75mln hit for 4, that’s my guess

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 07/05/13 at 02:36 PM ET

bezukov's avatar

Goodbye Flip.  I hope you end up with the Panthers for 3.5 a year.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 07/05/13 at 02:36 PM ET

OlderThanChelios's avatar

Whew. We’ll see how this works out on the ice, but that $4.9M per year cap hit sure is a hell of a lot better than the $6M he reportedly wanted.

Looks like Pavel and Z will get to play together (with Abby), and it’ll be Alfie, Weiss and Floater on the second line. Third line should be Nike with Helm and Tatar. And the fourth should be Andersson with Miller and Eaves. See ya Corey. See ya Tooter. Have fun in the press box Sammy and Bert.

It’ll be interesting to see if Jarnkrok will settle for a year in Grand Rapids or whether he’ll go back to the Swedish Elite League. Or maybe Tick Tock has a block buster deal cooking that’ll include some of the kids. Can’t decide whether all of this makes me happy or nervous.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 07/05/13 at 02:40 PM ET

SYF's avatar

You mean I don’t have to watch Filppula enter the zone with the puck and peel off to the boards ever again?!?!!! YYEESSSSS.

Posted by some kid on 07/05/13 at 02:24 PM ET

Posted by SYF from A tall cool pint of Guinness on 07/05/13 at 02:40 PM ET

Red Winger's avatar

Love it!

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie, MI on 07/05/13 at 02:41 PM ET


small but gritty


Posted by Garth on 07/05/13 at 02:46 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

Not bad money, we’ll see on the fit I guess.  Still can’t believe Brunner is gonna walk if he’s asking for anything in the 2’s, seems like a reasonable price to me.

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 07/05/13 at 02:51 PM ET

RhymeTimeWingsDings's avatar

like sand

Posted by RhymeTimeWingsDings on 07/05/13 at 02:55 PM ET

RhymeTimeWingsDings's avatar

peninsula to peninsula meow

Posted by RhymeTimeWingsDings on 07/05/13 at 02:56 PM ET

RWBill's avatar

Wings offering Cleary THREE MORE years?  Aw Hell no!

Posted by RWBill on 07/05/13 at 03:32 PM ET


[quoteBids still coming in for Daniel Cleary. Wings at 3 years, $2.5M per.]

Are you kidding me?  STOP while you’re ahead, Kenny.  JFC.

Posted by Garth on 07/05/13 at 03:40 PM ET

Slumpy's avatar

Seen him play for the Whalers and I’m happy we got him.
He’ll fill the void Val left on face offs but will be MUCH harder for teams to play against because of his work ethic. He can score still and definitely score on the PP well too.
Course though he’s undersized and will struggle against bigger opposition but should be a consistent 60+ pt man with our teams offensive weapons.
Can’t believe Stevie Y gave Val a 5M per year, 5 yr. contract down in tampon bay. He won’t be a GM long in this league making signing like that, jeez.
Still scratching my head at Alfi contract.
Reload not rebuild. Expectations now win the SC by signing a guy 40 years old and a legend.

Posted by Slumpy from Under My Wheels on 07/05/13 at 03:43 PM ET

Figaro's avatar

Earn your money, Weiss.  Prove us doubters wrong.

Posted by Figaro from Los Alamos, NM on 07/05/13 at 05:13 PM ET

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