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Red Wings-Predators game-day updates: Kindl to play for Wings, Gaustad out for Predators

Updated 9x with game day videos at 7:16 PM: As Paul already noted, the Red Wings received something of "cold comfort" in finding out that Minnesota Wild forward Devin Setoguchi was fined $8,108.11 for the "high stick" which yielded 20+ stitches for Wings defenseman Kyle Quincey during Sunday's loss to Minnesota...

And as the Red Wings prepare to face off against the Nashville Predators tonight (8 PM EST, FSD/FS Tennessee/1270 AM), we're actually going to start off with news from the opposing team as Fox Sports Tennessee's John Manasso reports that the Predators will play without Paul Gaustad this evening...

That's Brandon Yip...And 1025 the Game's Willy Daunic confirms...

As does the Tennessean's Josh Cooper:

The Wings' official Twitter account's posted some photos from the pre-morning-skate festivities...

And the Wings' Game Day Blog sets up the game with this quip...

"When we put on our sweaters we have to find a way to win. It doesn't matter who's in, who's out, who's at home. It's the NHL. Let's play." - Mike Babcock

After a heartbreaking 3-2 loss in Minnesota, Mike Babcock was making no excuses for the injuries the Wings have been dealing with all season long. The Wings will look to bounce back tonight with a victory against Central Division rival Nashville Predators.

Welcome to the Detroit Red Wings Game Day Blog, where you can get behind-the-scenes information, thoughts from players and staff, and up-to-date news on anything and everything Red Wings on game day.

You can watch tonight’s 8:00 PM game on Fox Sports Detroit or tune in on AM1270.

It notes two significant events from "This day in Red Wings history"...

On February 19, 1997: In his 1,000th career regular-season game, Steve Yzerman collects three assists in the Wings’ 4-0 win against Calgary.

On February 19, 2012: The Red Wings continue to rewrite the record books when they win their 23rd straight game at home, defeating the San Jose Sharks, 3-2.

And 97.1 the Ticket's Ken Kal offers his three "keys to the game":

Weather the Early Storm - The first ten minutes in this building are key. The Predators will come after the Wings hard early, especially after losing to Colorado last night.

Play for 60 Minutes - It's easier said than done, but a few lapses have cost Detroit in the last few games. They need to play a complete game tonight.

Generate Shots and Scoring Chances - Pekka Rinne doesn't give opponents much, so the more quality shots you can get, the better your odds of of putting the puck past him.

Via RedWingsFeed, MLive's Brendan Savage and Ansar Khan ponder whether placing Mikael Samuelsson on the point on the team's first power play unit is a good idea...

ANSAR KHAN: It can't hurt. They need to do something different to end their 0-for-26 drought on the road.

One of the main problems has been their reluctance to shoot. They have been making too many high-risk, low-percentage passes that have been intercepted or knocked away and cleared. Samuelsson will shoot the puck. He doesn't have the most accurate shot, but at least his attempts will create some havoc – rebounds, deflections.

Of course, it increases the possibility of surrendering a shorthanded a goal, but that's the risk you have to take.

BRENDAN SAVAGE: As with just about anything, only time will tell.

Babcock wants to see the Red Wings get more shots on the power play and Samuelsson should help in that regard. And considering 45 of his 148 career goals have come on the power play, he obviously knows a bit about playing with a manpower advantage.

Maybe moving first-year forward Damien Brunner from the point on the top power-play unit to right wing on the second unit will provide some added punch. Brunner has certainly demonstrated a knack for putting the puck in the net with seven goals – tied for the team lead – in 15 games this season.

Hey, the changes certainly can't hurt, can they?

And, amongst the CBC's Elliotte Friedman's 30 Thoughts:

12. If Mike Babcock returns as Canada's Olympic head coach, I wonder if he will bring along his former Detroit Red Wings assistant Paul MacLean, now head coach in Ottawa.

13. I still believe NHLers will go to the 2014 Sochi Olympics. Everyone got together last week to air their official positions. My bosses won't be thrilled, but it sounds like the NHL and NHLPA are going to be able to show video and get access that was previously unobtainable. Insurance remains a major issue, though. It costs about $7 million to cover player contracts, which the International Ice Hockey Federation and International Olympic Committee are being asked to pay. Another issue is the current package only covers about 80 per cent of a player's salary. That's a significant difference for a player like Crosby or Alexander Ovechkin.

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15. I've got to think Ryan Whitney isn't much longer for the Edmonton Oilers. Whitney can still pass it and start the transition from defence to offence, but foot injuries have affected his mobility. In a more structured system, teams can cover for that. Suffice to say, the Oilers are still learning team defence, so Whitney doesn't get as much help. I thought Detroit might be a good fit. But it doesn't sound like the Red Wings want to go in that direction.

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29. The CBA was supposed to be completed by Saturday. However, both sides have agreed to continue working on the language and seem optimistic about how things are progressing.

And while we're in non-game day-related-story territory, the Red Wings received one mention in Yahoo Sports' "NHL Awards Watch":

Rookies We Had No Idea Were Rookies

1. Marcus Foglino, Buffalo Sabres
2. Richard Bachman, Dallas Stars
3. Tomas Tatar, Detroit Red Wings

C’mon, admit it: You had no idea either.

After some wait (I started cobbling this together 45 minutes before the post's publishing date), we get some personnel updates from MLive's Ansar Khan...

 

The Detroit News's Ted Kulfan...

No surprise here:

Gratuitous mixed media time!

Here comes the important stuff:

Update #0.25: No surprise here:

Update #0.5: Good news from Khan...

And today appears to be Jordin Tootoo's day:

Erm, uh, see above for news about no Gaustad:

Update #1: This is good news, from MLive's Ansar Khan....

And the Free Press's Helene St. James:

Update #1.5: From St. James:

And the Tennessean's Josh Cooper posted game-day videos of Barry Trotz...


And Pekka Rinne speaking to the media:

Lots of, "No Lidstrom, isn't that great for you?" questioning.

Update #1.75: *cringes*

Update #2: Here's the Tennessean's Josh Cooper on the "No Lidstrom Effect":

It will be different tonight when the Predators forwards go into the Detroit Red Wings zone to try to score. There won’t be a certain erstwhile defensive player who is always in sound position, trying to prevent Nashville from getting to the net. And that same player won’t man the point on the power play to fire low, hard and accurate shots on goal.

Former Detroit captain, and seven-time Norris Trophy winner, Nicklas Lidstrom retired last summer. Lidstrom was arguably the greatest defenseman of the last 20 years, and was a constant presence in the Detroit/Nashville rivalry, which will be renewed tonight at 7 p.m. at Bridgestone Arena. The Red Wings tried to sign former Predator Ryan Suter last summer to replace Lidstrom. Instead, Suter ended up with the Minnesota Wild.

“When you lose probably the best defenseman of your time, how does it affect any team?” Predators coach Barry Trotz said. “It’s a big hole you don’t recover from, but they have people who are trying to fill in. He’s the best of the best, and that’s a big hole. That probably hurts your culture, that probably hurts a lot of things.”

Overall, the Wings have been pretty porous defensively this year, allowing 2.93 goals-per-game. It’s unclear whether Lidstrom, now 42 years old, would help with that number, but he certainly wouldn’t have hurt.

“He wasn’t a guy who you had to look over your shoulder to see if he was coming in to hit you, but his stick was amazing,” forward Colin Wilson said. “He defended unbelievable, I mean he was arguably one of the best defensemen to ever play.”

Lidstrom was also a savvy operator from the point, scoring 59 points or more for all but two seasons after the 2004-05 lockout.

“I didn’t think he had anything like a huge bomb from the point or anything like that, but he was always a smart shooter,” goaltender Pekka Rinne said. “He was using the screens to his advantage, so it always made it really dangerous.”

Cooper's also confirming that Paul Gaustad will not play tonight...

The Predators will need to find a new face off ace for tonight’s game against the Detroit Red Wings.

Forward Paul Gaustad will miss the contest with an “upper body” injury. Gaustad injured the area Monday at Colorado. He missed three games earlier in the season with an “upper body” injury. It’s not clear if the two are linked

Gaustad has won 62.6 percent of his face offs this year.

When asked if he knew how long Gaustad would be out, coach Barry Trotz said he would have a better idea “in the next day or so.”

And he posted a short clip of Jordin Tootoo speaking to the media:

 

Update #3: MLive's Ansar Khan offers his game-day story:

At 5-foot-10 and 186 pounds, Detroit Red Wings forward Tomas Tatar will need to take a different approach when playing a net-front role on the second power-play unit tonight in Nashville.

“I'm not the biggest guy, like a Mule (Johan Franzen) or somebody, so I got to be way quicker than the (defensemen) for example, it's going to be (Shea) Weber tonight,'' Tatar said. “I got to outplay him by my quickness. I got to help the team to get retrievals of pucks from corners and we got to get a hold of the puck around the net.''

Tatar will get an opportunity to play with Valtteri Filppula and Damien Brunner on the power play, as Red Wings coach Mike Babcock is trying some different looks. Detroit is the only team that hasn't scored a power-play goal on the road (0-for-26).

“I'm going to try to shoot it every time,'' Tatar said. “There's going to be opportunity for rebounds, try to be the first guy there and try to put the puck in, might be some tips.''

Ian White and Jakub Kindl (alternating with Kyle Quincey) played the points on that unit.

The first power-play unit will feature Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik Zetterberg and Daniel Cleary (net front) at forward and Niklas Kronwall and Mikael Samuelsson at the points. Samuelsson hurt his left hand after getting hit by a shot from White, but he said he'll play tonight.

Babcock said the only lineup change, aside from Jimmy Howard starting in goal, is Kindl replacing Kent Huskins.

Update #4: The Free Press's Helene St. James reports that the Wings are taking tonight's game very, very seriously:

"It's a huge game for us," forward Daniel Cleary said after the morning skate. "It's a real big game. We understand the situation. We're going to need a lot of composure tonight. It's important we get off to a good start and maintain through each period, because we know they had a tough break last night. We're going to be more fresh than them, so we have to make sure we skate."

The Predators lost, 6-5, at Colorado on Monday afternoon. One of the Avalanche's goals, by Matt Duchene, shouldn't have happened (he was off-sides), but the Predators still allowed three more goals after that. All were surrendered by backup Chris Mason, though, while the Wings will see 6-foot-5 goalie Pekka Rinne.

Wings coach Mike Babcock said the only planned lineup change is on the back end, where Jakub Kindl is back in, and Kent Huskins back out. On the power play, Tomas Tatar is going to get some time as a net-front guy, but now it appears to be with the newfangled second unit, next to Valtteri Filppula and Damien Brunner down low.

"Our power play hasn't been great for us, and we're always looking to make it better," Babcock said. "We've got some guys that have had significant power-play time that have no power-play points. In the end, you just can't keep going with it."

Mikael Samuelsson will take over the right point from Brunner on the first unit because Samuelsson "gives us a real good shot from the top, which we haven't had," Babcock said. "Ideally, we can get that group going. He knows he's there to shoot it, so that will be a good thing for us."

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It's the first time the teams have met since Nashville ended the Wings' playoff run five games into the first round last spring.

"We've had a good rivalry with them for years,'" Babcock said. "But obviously, any time they eliminate you in the playoffs -- any time you play in the playoffs -- I think that helps with rivalries, for sure."

Update #5: Fox Sports Tennessee's John Manasso's covering the game for NHL.com, and he took note of both teams' probable lineups, pointing out that Hal Gill will be a healthy scratch for the Predators...

Yip was scratched for the previous two games after having his ice time cut in the two before that. After playing 16:33 and going minus-1 in a 3-0 loss to Chicago on Feb. 10, he played only 10:47 and then 10:21 in the next two games.

Projected lines:

PREDATORS

Martin Erat - Mike Fisher - Sergei Kostitsyn

Colin Wilson - David Legwand - Patric Hornqvist

Gabriel Bourque - Nick Spaling - Brandon Yip

Rich Clune - Craig Smith - Matt Halischuk

Shea Weber - Scott Hannan

Roman Josi - Kevin Klein

Jonathon Blum - Ryan Ellis

Pekka Rinne

Chris Mason

Out: Paul Gaustad, Hal Gill

RED WINGS

Henrik Zetterberg - Pavel Datsyuk - Damien Brunner

Daniel Cleary - Valtteri Filppula - Mikael Samuelsson

Drew Miller - Cory Emmerton - Jordin Tootoo

Tomas Tatar - Joakim Andersson - Justin Abdelkader

Niklas Kronwall - Brian Lashoff

Jonathan Ericsson - Ian White

Jakub Kindl - Kyle Quincey

Jimmy Howard

Jonas Gustavsson

And Manasso spoke to Jordin Tootoo about his return to Nashville:

"Obviously it's different," he said. "Everything about the whole experience. Dressing in this (visiting) room -- I've never been in this room before. Walking across the street, staying in a hotel, everything has been an experience in itself, but as a hockey player guys come and go and move from team to team. It's just part of it."

The Red Wings arrived on Monday and practiced in Nashville, allowing Tootoo to get some formalities out of the way.

"I got all my hellos and whatnot out of the way," he said. "I think driving around in a cab was a little different. Like I said before, I came in with an open mind. Tonight is another game day for me. I'll just see I'm just on the other side of the dressing room."

With 725 penalty minutes, Tootoo is the Preds' all-time leader in that category. True to form, he leads Detroit with 32 this season. He also has two assists and is plus-1 in 15 games. Red Wings coach Mike Babcock credited him for his physical style of play. It would not be a surprise if Tootoo elected to drop the gloves on Tuesday but if that were the case, he wasn't about to telegraph it.

"It's not set in stone," he said. "Like I said, a lot of emotions that go throughout a game. For me, I've just got to go out and do my job and keep doing what I'm doing and obviously it's part of the game, being physical."

Asked if he would hesitate to hit a friend and former teammate in the corner, Tootoo did not hesitate, "Not at all. Not at all."

About the only remaining question, then, is how the fans will receive him. Recently, the Predators played a tribute video for long-time player Steve Sullivan (now with Phoenix) and they also have did one in the past for Dan Hamhuis (Vancouver) upon his return, as they have with others.

"I have no idea," he said. "I'm just going to go out there and embrace it and enjoy every moment of it. I played a lot of years here. I've made a lot of great friends here and a lot of experiences I'll never forget, so I'll just soak it all in."

Update #6: Excellent news from the Free Press's Helene St. James, who reports that Johan Franzen may return from his hip flexor injury on Thursday, and that Brendan Smith should return next week:

Top-six forward Johan Franzen said he might be back as soon as Thursday, when the Wings host the Columbus Blue Jackets. Franzen stayed on the ice nearly an hour after his teammates finished their morning skate today at Bridgestone Arena, where the Wings play the Nashville Predators tonight. It'll be the fourth game Franzen misses because of a sore hip flexor, but it also might be the last.

"I feel pretty good," Franzen said. "I've been skating pretty good the last two days here, so no problems really. Just get in some battles, too, and I should be good to go."

Franzen said, "I hope so," when asked whether Thursday is a possibility. He joked he wants to get in a good hip check on forward Jan Mursak before playing, saying, "I'm going to take out Murs tomorrow."

Mursak only just got cleared Monday, after being sidelined since opening night with a collarbone injury.

Top-four defenseman Brendan Smith, who has been out since Feb. 2 with a shoulder injury, also has been skating and aims to return during next week's trip to California.

"I feel great," he said. "But I'm not ready yet. It gets better every day, but it's hard to speculate, because I haven't done much contact, so I don't know. That's the biggest issue with anything, I guess, is can you deal with the contact? I'm not sure if I'm ready yet."

While Franzen and Smith work on their recovery, their fathers-trip roommates are living it up. Franzen brought his father-in-law but said, "I haven't seen him. He's having a good time. This is a good bar town for them." Smith brought his father, saying, "He likes this town. But he's a good dad. He's not with the whole clan, so he calls it early. I wish he'd stay out a little longer, but he's good."

Update #6.5: Jamie Favreau noted on Twitter that Niklas Kronwall is schedueld to sign autographs at Detroit City Sports' Novi location on Friday the 22nd, Jimmy Howard and Damien Brunner are scheduled to sign at DCS's Lakeside Mall location on March 2nd, and Gordie Howe is scheduled to sign autographs at their Lakeside Mall location on March 23rd.

Update #7: Here's DetroitRedWings.com's Bill Roose's game day story, discussing Wings coach Mike Babcock's "experiment" in placing Tomas Tatar in front of Pekka Rinne on the play:

“Our power play hasn’t been great for us and we’re always looking for ways to make it better,” coach Mike Babcock said following the team’s Tuesday morning skate at Bridgestone Arena. “We’ve had some guys with significant power-play time and have no power-play points. In the end you just can’t keep going with it.”

Babcock hopes the adjustment can lead to the Wings’ first road power-play goal of the season. Detroit is the only team in the league without a PP goal on the road. The Wings’ power play units are 0-for-26 away from Joe Louis Arena, registering just 31 shots in 46:53 of special teams ice-time on the road.

“He just generates offense,” Babcock said of Tatar, who has two goals and two assists in seven games since being call up from Grand Rapids.

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“He’s got himself four points, got himself three points in the last five games,” Babcock added. “When I go and watch the opposition I always circle the guys that got three points or more in the last five games as a significant player. So that must mean if he’s doing it for us, he must be a significant player.”

Tatar played meaningful minutes on the Griffins’ power play this season, but usually on the wall or in the middle. However, in the last two Red Wings’ practices, he’s been adjusting to a new power-play role – as a net-front presence.

“It's kind of new thing for me,” Tatar said. “I'm not used to playing there, but I'm feeling pretty good around the net, so I just got to get used to it because I think this might be my role for my future with Red Wings. It's kind of nice to practice there.”

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“I don’t know how long it’s going to last,” said Babcock, of the Tatar experiment. “But as long as it lasts, we’ll keep riding it. Maybe he’s one of those guys that just decides that he wants to be a Red Wing (and) he’s going to take someone’s job.”

Update #8: The Detroit News's Ted Kulfan took note of Franzen and Smith's progress..

"I've skated (hard) the last few days here — no problems, really," Franzen said. "That's what it feels like," he added of a Thursday return.

For both Franzen and Smith (who was hurt Feb. 2 in Columbus), the key now is whether their injuries can withstand physical battles. Both have yet to test it in practice.

"It's getting better every day but it's hard to speculate because I haven't done much contact," Smith said. "That's the big issue with anything: Can you deal with the contact? I'm not sure yet."

Smith admitted, "I'm not ready yet," adding his type of injury usually takes 3-4 weeks, which would take him into next week's road trip.

As well as Babcock's take on placing Samuelsson on the point, and Tatar in front...

"[Samuelsson] gives us a real good shot from the point and we haven't had that," Babcock said. "Ideally he can get that group going. He knows he's there to shoot it and that's a big thing for us."

Tatar has produced offense (four points in seven games) and is making a bid to stay with the Red Wings.

"He generates offense, he's quick and he's on the puck," Babcock said. "He's not shy. Can he keep doing what he's doing? I don't know. But he sure has so far."

And Kulfan asked Kyle Quincey what he thought about the fine issued to Devin Setoguchi:

"I was just going up to make a routine play, try to eliminate the puck from his body," Quincey said. "His stick came up pretty fast, and I couldn't really do anything about it."

Update #9: I felt really sick earlier, so I had to take a nap, and I missed the following...

The Red Wings' website posted a game-day preview....

And comments from Jordin Tootoo...

 

And coach Mike Babcock:

Fox Sports Tennessee's John Manasso weighed in on Jordin Tootoo's addition, suggesting that the Wings needed the grit the Predators had during last spring's rout, so the Wings went and imported a Predator:

On Tuesday, Tootoo made his first trip back to play against the team with which he spent his first eight seasons. Fresh insights were all around. He said after inking his deal, there were no meetings with coach Mike Babcock or general manager Ken Holland.

"I think I know my role pretty well," he said. "My foundation is being physical out there and creating room for my linemates and myself and creating opportunities. This game is about mistakes and capitalizing on those. For me, it's just about keeping my feet moving and being physical."

On a Detroit team that entered the day in the uncharacteristic spot of fourth place in the Central Division and ninth in the Western Conference (though, in truth, only three points out of fourth), Tootoo finds himself one of only six Detroit forwards who is a plus player.

Babcock described Tootoo as a "physical guy on the forecheck" and then threw a compliment in the direction of the Predators and coach Barry Trotz, the only coach Nashville has had since it entered the league in 1998.

"He's been excellent for us," Babcock said. "Obviously, (he has) been in the program that they taught, knows how to play and I've known him a long time right back from junior and he's a competitive guy. Seems to be enjoying himself and we're enjoying having him."

Babcock was alluding to his final year of coaching the Western Hockey League's Spokane Chiefs in 1999-2000 when Tootoo was playing his first season of major junior in the same league for the Brandon Wheat Kings.

In Nashville, they have known Tootoo since he was a fourth-round draft pick in 2001. He left as the organization's all-time leader in penalty minutes with 725. Now, they know what he will bring to a rival – a facet of the game in which the Red Wings might have lacked for a few seasons.

"Toots is a guy that brings the bang, he brings energy," Trotz said. "He likes the big hits. That's probably something they've missed a little bit. He's more in a Darren McCarty mold where you get that 'Grind Line' physicality. He obviously was popular here. Still is. He'll be popular in Detroit so he brings a lot of that to the table."

In other news, MLive's Brendan Savage posted a power rankings round-up...

RedWingsFeed found that WDFN's Doug Todd's posted a slate of Wings ice time charts...

And this yields a !!!! from me:

 

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perfection's avatar

One of the main problems has been their reluctance to shoot. They have been making too many high-risk, low-percentage passes that have been intercepted or knocked away and cleared. Samuelsson will shoot the puck. He doesn’t have the most accurate shot, but at least his attempts will create some havoc – rebounds, deflections.

Of course, it increases the possibility of surrendering a shorthanded a goal, but that’s the risk you have to take.

no mention Ansar about how the Wings ALREADY lead the league in shorthanded goals given up? is that really a risk we HAVE to take? especially seeing that Sammy’s point shots not only don’t increase our chances of scoring by all that much, but were almost single handedly responsible for us letting him walk to Vancouver when he was a UFA. His PP point play was overrated then and he’s much farther away from his prime than he was then… hell, he’s not even in game shape for what he is now!

I realize we have to shake something up, but seriously, is that the best you’ve got? I’d rather see Eaves firing wristers from the point. I’d rather see Big Rig ripping a slapshot that won him hardest shot competition at the AHL all-star game one year. There’s changes that could be made, but Sammy at the point on the first line seems like a hollow change that will yield little.

If you want to do something drastic, call up Sheahan. He’s a power forward who’s not only remarkably responsible defensively, but QB’d the PP from the point at Notre Dame for all three years he was there. Not comparing it to the NHL, but if moving Sammy to the first line point is where we’re starting, trying out Sheahan isn’t all that risky. The kid kills penalties, is great in the face-off circle, and plays a power game behind the net even strength. He’s young and inexperienced but really versatile and is having a great rookie campaign in Grand Rapids. Anything’s better than Sammy at the point

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 02/19/13 at 01:27 PM ET

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” especially seeing that Sammy’s point shots not only don’t increase our chances of scoring by all that much, but were almost single handedly responsible for us letting him walk to Vancouver when he was a UFA.”

This is one opinion - although I would like to see some form of evidence to support it… At least he can hit the glass behind the net with some authority…

Posted by alukacs on 02/19/13 at 02:33 PM ET

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Can someone please, please, PLEASE explain to me why Eaves is out?
I’m all aboo playing the kids but we sure could use a hungry, speedy grinder in there. Just sayin.
Eaves in, Cleary out please.

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 02/19/13 at 02:48 PM ET

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Just to make sure I’m not an idiot, Lidstrom brought the following to the PP, right?

1. Always held the puck in at the blue line.
2. Never had his shot blocked near the blue line causing a breakaway.
3a. Had much more accurate long range shot than anyone on the Wings now OR
3b. Homer’s hand-eye coordination to intercept _and_ direct said shots while being pushed around was ungodly

Posted by ChowYunCat on 02/19/13 at 03:35 PM ET

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Henrik Zetterberg - Pavel Datsyuk - Damien Brunner

Daniel Cleary - Valtteri Filppula - Mikael Samuelsson

Drew Miller - Cory Emmerton - Jordin Tootoo

Tomas Tatar - Joakim Andersson - Justin Abdelkader

We’re rolling with a 3rd line and two 4th lines tonight. Good to see a broken Cleary and a just-back-from-ir-and-definitely-not-in-game-shape Samuelsson flanking Fil. They’ve really “earned” that. Tatar and Andersson…sorry kids…you’ll get your chance to play meaningful minutes in a few more years. You’re just not quite overripe enough.

Posted by godblender on 02/19/13 at 03:43 PM ET

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“When you lose probably the best defenseman of your time, how does it affect any team?” Predators coach Barry Trotz said. “It’s a big hole you don’t recover from, but they have people who are trying to fill in. He’s the best of the best, and that’s a big hole. That probably hurts your culture, that probably hurts a lot of things.”

ohh

Posted by w2j2 on 02/19/13 at 04:50 PM ET

perfection's avatar

This is one opinion - although I would like to see some form of evidence to support it… At least he can hit the glass behind the net with some authority…

haha… “opinions”, by definition, kind of don’t need “evidence”. you must be thinking of “facts” which usually should be supported by evidence.

with that said, i meant that part somewhat tongue and cheek. i don’t ACTUALLY believe Ken Holland didn’t sign him because of his PP point ability. but I DO think that Sammy was given a lot of opportunities at that time, including manning the point, and did not earn the kind of contract he went and signed. I’m sorry but until I see some evidence to the contrary, for now I think Samuelsson is just terrible. But in fairness to Babs, his experience does matter. The Grand Rapids kids looked great the other night, but they just haven’t been around all that long. There’s a reason why Edmonton can dress something like 5 top 3 picks and have them all look pretty average most nights. Veteran savvy still matters in this league and Sammy does have some of that. But man, the one thing he doesn’t have is a GOOD SHOT FROM THE POINT.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 02/19/13 at 04:58 PM ET

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Posted by Vladimir16 on 02/19/13 at 02:48 PM ET


I’d actually really like to see that Vladdy, didn’t know he QB’d the PP at ND.  Hope Kenny sees with Tatar and Andersson that you CAN take a chance on kids.  Guys like Cleary and Sammuelsson will always be available if they don’t work but at least you gave yourself and your prospects a real shot.  The upgrade Tatar is over Cleary is unreal, yet Cleary’s slotted 1st PP and 2nd line duty while Tatar continues to generate offense from a third line role, and on the PP.  WTF.WTF.WTF.

Eaves is an OBVIOUS upgrade over Cleary as well, but he sits.  Even though he’s better a year and half out than Cleary is in “game-shape”

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 02/19/13 at 05:17 PM ET

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tatar on the fourth line, you gotta be kidding me.

Posted by Joe Z. from Austria on 02/19/13 at 05:23 PM ET

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and did not earn the kind of contract he went and signed.

I agree with you, but Holland brought him back and gave him a raise over the raise that Vancouver gave him, so I believed Holland when he said he wanted to keep Samuelsson around but just couldn’t afford to because of the Zetterberg and Franzen deals.

Eaves is an OBVIOUS upgrade over Cleary as well, but he sits.

Eaves would be an upgrade over Quincey on defense.

Posted by Garth on 02/19/13 at 06:22 PM ET

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Holland brought him back and gave him a raise over the raise that Vancouver gave him

AND a f*cking NTC, too.  What the hell was Holland thinking?

Posted by Garth on 02/19/13 at 06:23 PM ET

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I think our second line at the moment should be nyquist andersson tatar.  Honestly can’t help but feel they are a bigger scoring threat than what’s posted above

Posted by neffernin on 02/19/13 at 06:47 PM ET

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