Kukla's Korner

The Malik Report

Red Wings-Panthers quick take: Wings fall into Florida’s trap

I don't want to talk about this one. The Red Wings blew a 4-2 lead and dropped a 5-4 decision to the Florida Panthers via a shootout decision because they played a horrible first period and a horrible third period against the team that has their number--and got both a shorthanded goal against the Wings, got a break when Daniel Cleary may or may not have been pushed into Thomas, who sold a third no-goal-against-Detroit call, and definitely got a break when Tomas Tatar was high-sticked under the visor but neither ref nor linesman saw Brian Campbell do it.

This was...Poor. You could understand that the Wings were going to have a mental letdown after playing the Blues, Blackhawks and Canadiens, and you knew that the Wings wouldn't be the same without Henrik Zetterberg, who was scratched late with an "upper-body injury" apparently suffered against Montreal, but...

This kind of shit had to stop a couple of weeks ago, and while the Wings end up going 3-1-and-1 on a five-game home stand, and while the kids have been spectacular, the Wings very evidently need their Zetterbergs, Datsyuks, perhaps even their Anderssons and definitely their Howard back.

From 3-1 to 4-2 to a 5-4 shootout loss. Too familiar. Too predictable in a trap game labeled as such. Too much of the same.

And after all the gains the Wings made, we have to wonder whether the "veteran presence" really is needed down the stretch--and the answer seems to be "yes," as much as it pains me to say that given the way Sheahan, Jurco and Glendening have won spots on next year's team.

Statistics:

Shots 37-30 Florida overall. Detroit was out-shot 11-10 in the 1st, they out-shot Florida 12-9 in the 2nd period, the Wings were out-shot a stunning 15-5 in the 3rd and they out-shot Florida 3-2 in OT.

Special teams: The Red Wings went 1-for-4 in 7:21 of PP time and gave up a shorthanded goal; the Panthers went 0-for-4 in 7:36 and scored a shorthanded goal.

Goaltending: Jonas Gustavsson stopped 33 of 37 for Detroit; Tim Thomas stopped 26 of 30 for Florida.

The 3 stars were picked by Fox Sports Detroit's Dana Wakiji, and she picked Sean Bergenheim, Riley Sheahan and Tomas Tatar.

The Wings' goals: Nyquist (9) from Franzen (14);

Alfredsson (12) from Smith (12) and Lashoff (3);

Sheahan (3) from Tatar (10) and Eaves (2), PPG;

Tatar (12) from Sheahan (5) and Jurco (3).

Faceoffs 37-33 Detroit (Detroit won 53%);

Blocked shots 16-5 Florida;

Missed shots 9-5 Detroit (attempts 55-47 Detroit, with the Wings firing 25 shots wide/blocked);

Hits 26-11 Detroit;

Giveaways 10-9 Detroit;

Takeaways 10-6 Detroit.

Individual stats:

Faceoffs: Helm went 10-and-13 (43%); Glendening went 8-and-11 (42%); Franzen went 8-and-3 (73%); Sheahan went 7-and-4 (64%); Tatar went 2-and-1 (67%); Miller lost his only faceoff.

Shots: Tatar led the Wings with 5 shots; Jurco had 4; DeKeyser had 3; Alfredsson, Nyquist, Sheahan, Eaves and Ericsson had 2; Smith, Abdelkader, Miller, Lashoff, Glendening, Kronwall, Cleary and Franzen had 1 shot.

Blocked attempts: Helm and Ericsson hit Panthers players 3 times; Nyquist and Kronwall had 2 attempts blocked; Smith, Alfredsson, Eaves, Tatar, Quincey and DeKeyser had 1 attempt blocked.

Missed shots: Ericsson missed the net 2 times; Smith, Alfresson, Eaves, Lashoff, Jurco, Cleary and Franzen missed the net 1 time.

Hits: Kronwall led the Wings with 4 hits; Abdelkader and Glendening had 3; Eaves, Miller, Quincey and Helm had 2 hits; Smith, Alfredsson, Sheahan, Tatar, Lashoff, Jurco, Ericsson and Franzen had 1 hit.

Giveaways: Tatar and Kronwall had 2 giveaways; Smith, Alfredsson, Glendening, DeKeyser, Cleary and Franzen had 1 giveaway.

Takeaways: Tatar had 2 takeaways; Abdelkader, Alfredsson, Lashoff, Ericsson, Kronwall, DeKeyser, Cleary and Franzen had 1 takeaway.

Blocked opponent shots: Miller blocked 2 shots; Eaves, Quincey and Kronwall blocked 1 shot.

Penalties: Both Abdelkader and Ericsson took a pair of minor penalties.

Plus-minus: The Wings finished at a collective -5. Eaves finished at -2; Smith, Abdelkader, Nyquist, Miller, Glendening, Kronwall and Franzen finished at -1; Sheahan, Tatar, Jurco and Ericsson finished at +1.

Points: Tatar and Sheahan both had a goal and an assist for 2 points; Alfredsson and Nyquist had goals; Smith, Eaves, Lashoff, Jurco and Franzen had assists.

Ice time: Kronwall played a team-leadindg 28:21; Ericsson played 23:20; Helm played 20:10;

Alfredsson played 19:44; DeKeyser played 19:33; Quincey played 18:15;

Lashoff played 18:06; Abdelkader played 16:53; Smith played 16:47;

Franzen played 16:45; Nyquist played 16:33; Cleary played 15:48;

Miller played 15:16; Glendening played 14:29; Tatar played 14:08;

Sheahan played 13:48; Jurco played 12:17; Eaves played 12:01.

Update: Regarding the roster:

Update #2: The Wings posted clips of Jonas Gustavsson's comments...


Riley Sheahan's comments...

 

And coach Mike Babcock's post-game presser:

Here are the highlights...

And here's the shootout:

Filed in: | The Malik Report | Permalink
 

Comments

Alan's avatar

If I recall correctly, all of our losses to Florida this year have been without Z in the lineup.

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 01/26/14 at 09:02 PM ET

Avatar

Actually, I can’t understand why a team of professional athletes should have a “mental letdown” at this point of the season.

Shots on goal. I continue to think if they could just devote all of their energy towards getting that number closer to 40, no matter how ugly it is, our fortunes would improve.

Posted by CrimsonPhoenix on 01/26/14 at 09:03 PM ET

bigfrog's avatar

Same old thing. The Red Wings play down to a lesser opponent. Another sinker unfortunately.

Posted by bigfrog on 01/26/14 at 09:06 PM ET

bigfrog's avatar

I meant “Stinker”.

Posted by bigfrog on 01/26/14 at 09:07 PM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

You forgot Cleary’s faceoff win that led to Alfie’s goal George.  I still like Sheahan over Andersson though I do not think he kills penalties which will probably be the deciding factor.

Thanks as always George. Hope your noggin is doing better. Stay warm up there.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 01/26/14 at 10:56 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

That was a great faceoff win. As many have noted, while Smith and Quincey have been far from perfect, they’ve also been much more steady overall, and as we saw today, Smith’s starting to flash his offensive abilities much more regularly.

All in all, trending up, especially going 3-1-and-1 at home with Hank usually out and Pavel out, but tonight’s result blew donkey balls.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 01/26/14 at 11:18 PM ET

Avatar

Do these reporters know how to ask follow up questions?
If the Tatar line was so good, why were the three members of the line in the bottom 4 forwards in the time on ice stat?
Why is Tatar under 15 minutes still (14 and change tonight, 11 and change against Montreal) when he’s the LEADING GOAL SCORER IN THE LINEUP? (Tied with Alfredsson at 12)

Posted by Captain Bob on 01/27/14 at 12:08 AM ET

Chet's avatar

sheahan doesn’t seem to be going anywhere, not at this rate.

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 01/27/14 at 12:14 AM ET

Avatar

interesting choice of shooters in the shootout. Thomas seems to me* to be a goalie you dont* want to think shoot first on. Should have been more dekers ala nyquist. Oh well.

Posted by brians neck on 01/27/14 at 12:19 AM ET

Alan's avatar

All in all, trending up, especially going 3-1-and-1 at home with Hank usually out and Pavel out, but tonight’s result blew donkey balls.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 01/26/14 at 10:18 PM ET

Agree. I’m generally happy with what I saw from the team. The loss today hurts, but it’s something the guys can use to build off of and keep working towards being better.

sheahan doesn’t seem to be going anywhere, not at this rate.

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 01/26/14 at 11:14 PM ET

The way these kids have been playing is exceptional. I am almost 100% sure they’re all going back to Grand Rapids (because they are waiver exempt), but I would love to think Kenny would figure a way to dump more dead weight so they can stay. It’s not just about having bodies to play, it’s about trying to win.

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 01/27/14 at 12:25 AM ET

bleep bloop's avatar

Another game where 2-goal leads are blown, third period leads are blown. Is there a site with stats on those? (Can someone teach these defenders to simplify their play when they want to shut down a team?)

WTH was Babs doing putting 4 forwards out on a third period power play when the team was in the lead?  You don’t expect the other team to tie it when you are on the power play and you certainly don’t want to invite it…

The problem with injuries lasting so long into the season is that now we have a lot of yunguns who have played a bit and can actually play in the NHL and we’ll start getting back more established people who will barely be able to play when they come back. Currently Helm, Gustavsson, Franzen, and Alfredsson (am I missing anyone?) are not 100% up to speed, which is understandable. Who do you play, the guys who give you a better chance to win the next game or two or the players who might get you further in the playoffs if they don’t cost you a playoff spot?

The situation with Zetterberg is frightening. He was clearly playing hurt for a while—and he was definitely needed—but, especially with the Olympics and the resulting condensed schedule, then the inevitable late season push to make the playoffs, how much will that hurt the team if they make the playoffs?

Posted by bleep bloop on 01/27/14 at 01:29 AM ET

bleep bloop's avatar

(am I missing anyone?)

Ericsson

Posted by bleep bloop on 01/27/14 at 01:30 AM ET

George Malik's avatar

For the record, Babcock wasn’t happy with putting 4 forwards on a power play late, either. He stated it was an issue.

Back issues are tough to tackle. We don’t really know if Hank’s disc healed and he’s just got “hockey player back” or whether he’s got something persisting that’s “new.” The AP report stated that Zetterberg got hurt during the Canadiens game.

By the time the Wings get to the playoffs, assuming that they make it (I am hopeful), the good news is that…Everybody’s playing hurt by game 82? Yeah, that’s about it :/

I’m comfortable…Well, let’s say I’m resigned to the fact that Sheahan, Jurco and Glendening can be demoted without having to be waived and that they’re going to Grand Rapids when/if Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Andersson, Howard (so Mrazek, too) and Weiss return. I wasn’t “on board” with the team re-signing Cleary when I was there in person to see Tomas Tatar turn ten shades of gray, but I believe that Bertuzzi and Cleary aren’t ging anywhere, and that Eaves may have to be waived as well as Emmerton, and…

That’s probably the “way of the world.” With the cap in place, 23-man roster limits and guaranteed contracts, despite the protestations of Twitter’s professional self-loathers of late, this isn’t football and players can’t be “released,” and when the playoffs come, it’s like the start of the regular season—as Babs said then, the veterans tend to win by default…

Though I would very happily be proven wrong by the players, because what you and I think and even what Holland and Babcock think will be impacted first and foremost by what happens on the ice, and the kids keep producing. At the very least, Sheahan (out of waiver options next year) and Glendening (can be sent down) seem to be full-time Wings next year, and if there are “too many centers,” I’m sure each can play on the wing and thrive there.

Given Ericsson’s return, rust and all, I’m a little worried about the defense still struggling—though this game definitely represented a collective coaches-and-players brain fart—even with the 3-1-and-1 home stand record, so I guess I’m gonna get on my “if the Wings need to add it’s on defense” soapbox again, but that’s just my opinion.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 01/27/14 at 01:39 AM ET

Avatar

If putting 4 forwards on the PP is an issue, then why does he do it?
Why not put Brendan Smith, Johnny Ericsson or Danny Dekeyser on the powerplay instead of Eaves and Abdelkader?

Posted by Captain Bob on 01/27/14 at 01:59 AM ET

George Malik's avatar

It was the timing. Wings up by 1, last four minutes of the game. The Wings rather regularly put a forward on the point (Alfredsson or Eaves of late), but the “margin for error” rules—like the last 5 minutes of a game or the last 15-20 seconds of the penalty—usually apply.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 01/27/14 at 02:04 AM ET

Avatar

Who do you play, the guys who give you a better chance to win the next game or two or the players who might get you further in the playoffs if they don’t cost you a playoff spot?

The answer to both questions is the same.

For the record, Babcock wasn’t happy with putting 4 forwards on a power play late, either. He stated it was an issue.

It’s too bad that Babcock isn’t in any position to make the decision of who plays on the power play.  Maybe if he’s not happy with it he should talk to the head coach about making changes…......................................

Posted by Garth on 01/27/14 at 09:52 AM ET

Alan's avatar

It’s too bad that Babcock isn’t in any position to make the decision of who plays on the power play.  Maybe if he’s not happy with it he should talk to the head coach about making changes…......................................

Posted by Garth on 01/27/14 at 08:52 AM ET

While the snark is a tad amusing, I read (and heard) it as an admission of fault. I’m sure that changes will be made, and we’ll come prepared to play in Philly.

On another bright side, we’ve scored four goals in three consecutive games.

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 01/27/14 at 10:01 AM ET

shanetx's avatar

One thing that was especially obvious during this game was that Babcock didn’t have a line be trusted to cool the other team off.  After the 4-4 goal you, as a Wings fan, are accustomed to seeing Zetterberg or Datsyuk out there for the draw and being able to think, “well, we’ll at least win THIS shift”.  Last night it was Riley Sheahan and his line.

I know Franzen isn’t a guy you want to put heaps of pressure on right after coming back but lacking a real top line is really obvious in that situation.  Hopefully Franzen will be back up to speed soon or Z can go next game if Datsyuk is still days away.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 01/27/14 at 10:09 AM ET

Avatar

I read (and heard) it as an admission of fault.

Well then, it’s good for him to finally admit it, because his insistance on having a forward playing the point has been an issue for a while.

Posted by Garth on 01/27/14 at 10:34 AM ET

Avatar

  For the record, Babcock wasn’t happy with putting 4 forwards on a power play late, either. He stated it was an issue.

It’s too bad that Babcock isn’t in any position to make the decision of who plays on the power play.  Maybe if he’s not happy with it he should talk to the head coach about making changes…......................................

Posted by Garth on 01/27/14 at 08:52 AM ET

That’s so fantastic. I am at a loss as to why Brendan Smith, possibly the team’s most threatening offensive talent on the back end, gets no powerplay time while the likes of Patrick Eaves (aka “Mr. Waivers”) and Mikael Samuelsson get the time. Is it really that critical to have a right and left shot out there? As far as I can tell, the powerplay has been remarkably average-to-weak for the last several years. Maybe it’s time to re-think the formula?

By the way, if this game was lost due to lack of veteran players to “steady the ship” when the other team is pressing in the late stages of the game, someone explain to me how it was that the veteran lines were on the ice for FLA goals 3 and 4…

Posted by VitoLambruski on 01/27/14 at 10:59 AM ET

Avatar

Putting smith on the point on the pp is as bad as having a forward defensively. He will pinch at the wrong time I guarantee it. This is one of the problems well run into if we sit kindl. Should be 55-52. 4-65? Kindl is one of the few dmen who can carry the mail through the neutral zone relatively well.

Posted by brians neck on 01/27/14 at 11:29 AM ET

Avatar

Putting smith on the point on the pp is as bad as having a forward defensively.

OK fine, then how about Ericsson?

Posted by Garth on 01/27/14 at 11:48 AM ET

Avatar

Absolutely Ericsson. Id love to know how many points the fowards on pp point have the last 3 years.

Posted by brians neck on 01/27/14 at 11:51 AM ET

TreKronor's avatar

am at a loss as to why Brendan Smith, possibly the team’s most threatening offensive talent on the back end, gets no powerplay time while the likes of Patrick Eaves (aka “Mr. Waivers”) and Mikael Samuelsson get the time.

Ugghhhh, Samuelsson?  He hasn’t played in 2 weeks. 

Smith seems to be thought of as our “offensive defenseman”.  Considering he has 1 Goal and 12 Assists this year while average 19:00/game, I don’t see how he could be thought of as offensive.  I’d rather have Alfie on the point then Smith.

Posted by TreKronor on 01/27/14 at 11:56 AM ET

Avatar

Was able to dig up the last season pp points for the forwards on the point. Sammy has 2 over both seasons. Alfie has 10 this year (3 goals). Brunner had 10 last year (also 3 goals). Those aren’t monster numbers that justify the defensive liability.  In my opinion anyway.

Posted by brians neck on 01/27/14 at 12:05 PM ET

MurrayChadwick's avatar

am at a loss as to why Brendan Smith, possibly the team’s most threatening offensive talent on the back end, gets no powerplay

Smith is good offensively, skating the puck, joining the rush, puck handling etc. but to me the kid hasn’t shown the ability to shoot effectively from the point, nor make quality instinctive passes when we’ve established control.

Not that Eaves or Sammy are great passers or creative offensive talents, but the reason these slubs get the nod over our defense is because they have a right handed shot, and a fairly decent one, (Sammy’s last err..3 seasons… aside) which at least provides the threat of a one timer.

Posted by MurrayChadwick on 01/27/14 at 12:24 PM ET

Avatar

I’d rather have Alfie on the point then Smith.

Great, but there are two power play units.

Posted by Garth on 01/27/14 at 01:15 PM ET

Add a Comment

Please limit embedded image or media size to 575 pixels wide.

Add your own avatar by joining Kukla's Korner, or logging in and uploading one in your member control panel.

Captchas bug you? Join KK or log in and you won't have to bother.

Smileys

Notify me of follow-up comments?

Feed

Most Recent Blog Posts

About The Malik Report

The Malik Report is a destination for all things Red Wings-related. I offer biased, perhaps unprofessional-at-times and verbose coverage of my favorite team, their prospects and developmental affiliates. I've joined the Kukla's Korner family with five years of blogging under my belt, and I hope you'll find almost everything you need to follow your Red Wings at a place where all opinions are created equal and we're all friends, talking about hockey and the team we love to follow.