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Red Wings-Panthers quick take: blown game

That was awful. Just as the Panthers lulled the Red Wings to sleep on Saturday, they pulled the sleeper hold on Detroit on Tuesday night, and a Red Wings team that built a 2-0 lead and had the advantage for 35:26 of the game...

Blew their 2-goal lead and lost 3-2 to the Plywood Panthers in the shootout.

Was Howard sub-par? In the shootout, sure. But the Red Wings seemed to all but quit playing after the Panthers allowed Detroit to rope itself out cycling, dekeing and dangling their way through the latter half of the second period, and the 3rd was all Florida.

The game's start wasn't so bad. 10:26 into the 1st, after having had a goal waived off due to "incidental contact," Todd Bertuzzi connected on the power play thanks to some hard work by Pavel Datsyuk and Johan Franzen...

And the game slowed down like nobody's business, but the Wings kept grinding it out, and Datsyuk scored in his comeback from a concussion-induced absence, via a great rush by Franzen and a shot-pass from Jonathan Ericsson, 6:47 into the 2nd...

But the 3rd period was all Florida. Sean Bergenheim scored on what was a double deflection of sorts, tipping down Dmitri Kulikov's shot before it went through Justin Abdelkader and Nilkas Kronwall and then Howard's legs...

Nick Bjugstad capitalized on what turned out to be a lovely set of errors from Franzen, a "soft" play by Pavel Datsyuk and the complete absence of Brendan Smith and Kyle Quincey en route to a goal which Jimmy Howard leaned off of too early, and he tied the game with 5:22 left...

And the shootout was the shootout. Daniel Alfredsson was stopped by Tim Thomas, Aleksander Barkov pulled the "Forsberg" move on Howard, and while Tomas Tatar tucked a slick five-hole goal in on Thomas, and Jonathan Huberdeau spun himself out, Gustav Nyquist mushed the puck into Thomas on the 3rd try, and Brad Boyes pulled a super-sneaky move, going deke/glove and just sliding the puck into the far post instead.

Is the shootout Howard's fault? Not when the Wings can't score in it.

Is the loss Howard's fault? Not in my book. The Wings took the bait and let the Panthers lurk in the weeds, slowly but surely succumbing to a lack of attentitiveness to detail, and the Panthers earned the win.

I think this one is going to sting THE TEAM for a long time to come.

TEN straight shootout losses? That's not the goalie's fault.


Shots 27-26 Florida overall. Detroit out-shot Florida 10-8 in the 1st but was out-shot 10-9 in the 2nd, the teams tied 7-7 in the 3rd and the Panthers out-shot Detroit 2-0 in OT.

Special teams: Detroit went 1-for-4 in 7:07 of PP time; the Panthers went 0-for-3 in 6:00.

Goaltending: Jimmy Howard stopped 25 of 27 shots; Tim Thomas stopped 24 of 26.

The Panthers picked the 3 stars, and they picked Tim Thomas, Pavel Datsyuk and Nick Bjugstad.

The Wings' goals: Bertuzzi (6) from Datsyuk (12) and Franzen (12), PPG;

Datsyuk (13) from Ericsson (7) and Franzen (13).

Faceoffs 32-30 Florida (Detroit won 48%);

Blocked shots 18-13 Florida;

Missed shots 11-10 Florida (total attempts 51-44 Florida);

Hits 28-17 Florida;

Giveaways 4-3 Detroit;

Takeaways supposedly 18-2 Florida.

Individual stats:

Faceoffs: Datsyuk went 14-and-7 (67%); Weiss went 7-and-10 (41%); Andersson went 5-and-9 (36%); Emmerton went 3-and-3 (50%); Franzen won his only faceoff; Abdelkader, Alfredsson and Tatar all lost their only faceoffs.

Shots: Nyquist led the team with 5 shots; Datsyuk had 4; Tatar, Bertuzzi and Franzen had 3; Emmerton had 2; Smith, Kindl, Alfredsson, Miller, Ericsson and Weiss had 1.

Blocked attempts: Nyquist supposedly hit Panthers players 4 times; Franzen had 3 attempts blocked; Smith and Emmerton had 2 attempts blocked; Abdelkader, Datsyuk, Tatar, Bertuzzi, Ericsson, Cleary and Weiss had 1 attempt blocked.

MIssed shots: Smith, Kindl, Alfredsson, Datsyuk, Miller, Tatar, Bertuzzi, Ericsson, Kronwall and Franzen missed the net 1 time.

Hits: Abdelkader led the Wings with 4; Miller, Bertuzzi and Ericsson had 3; Quincey had 2; Smith and Tatar had 1.

Giveaways: Lashoff, Ericsson, Kronwall and Howard had 1.

Takeaways: Datsyuk and Ericsson had takeaways.

Blocked opponent shots: Alfredsson blocked 3 Panthers shots; Smith, Kindl and Cleary blocked 2; Datsyuk, Emmerton, Quincey and Bertuzzi blocked 1.

Penalties taken: Tatar, Bertuzzi and Weiss took minor penalties.

Plus-minus: The Wings finished at -5. Smith, Abdelkader, Alfredsson, Quincey and Weiss finished at -1.

Points: Datsyuk had a goal and an assist for 2 points; Franzen had 2 assists; Bertuzzi had a goal; Ericsson had an assist.

Ice time: Kronwall led the team with 26:28 played; Ericsson played 24:14; Quincey played 23:07;

Alfredsson played 20:54; Datsyuk played 20:15; Smith played 20:08;

Franzen played 19:31; Abdelkader played 18:05; Kindl played 17:26;

Bertuzzi played 17:00; Weiss played 15:57; Nyquist played 15:40;

Andersson played 15:00; Tatar played 14:48; Cleary played 12:55;

Lashoff played 12:04; Miller played 11:59; Emmerton played 8:32.



Update: Here's a full slate of game highlights...


And here's the shootout:

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Mandingo's avatar

Is there anybody who wasn’t thinking OTL after Florida made it 2-1?

I mean, of course I was, but didn’t it just seem inevitable?

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 12/10/13 at 11:40 PM ET

SYF's avatar

The “Forsberg move” is actually a Kenta Nilsson move.

Doesn’t matter as this should’ve been a 3-2 win for the Wings thanks to Gord Dwyer waving off the goal.

Posted by SYF from Twerkin' with Anastasia Ashley on 12/10/13 at 11:40 PM ET


Trash game played by an evidently trashy team. Florida is arguably the worst team in the league. We’ve lost to them, twice now. With yet another blown two goal lead. Can’t even count how many that is this season. Our inability to keep the skate to the throat is the killer mentality the wings need. Until then it’s just pathetic and embarrassing.

Posted by Robert on 12/10/13 at 11:42 PM ET

MoreShoot's avatar

when Howie let that crap go between his legs it was like blood in the water.  I’d sit him till January.

Posted by MoreShoot on 12/10/13 at 11:43 PM ET

Mandingo's avatar

Also, horrible body language from Howard on Boyes’ SO goal. Zero confidence right now.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 12/10/13 at 11:44 PM ET


Re: Mandingo. As soon as FL scored it felt like it was over. I was honestly surprised they didn’t lose in regulation.

Posted by ryst on 12/10/13 at 11:47 PM ET

bleep bloop's avatar

It looked to me like there was no man-on-man coverage by the Red Wings all night long, so play in their own zone was very scrambly. And as usual, in the third period their brains went out the window. I wouldn’t be surprised if at least half of their giveaways were awarded in the third period.

TEN straight shootout losses? That’s not the goalie’s fault.

If it were 10 straight shootout losses in the fourth round with no one scoring, ok, but when the goalies are allowing 1 or 2 of every 3 shots, they aren’t giving their team a chance to win, especially when no one scores. NHL goalies are much better in shootouts than that.

Posted by bleep bloop on 12/10/13 at 11:51 PM ET

George Malik's avatar

There’s no confidence from anyone. The Wings aren’t scoring and their goaltending’s been sub-par—equally so—during these shootouts. It’s not all on the goaltender.

And the WINGS are blowing 2-0 and 3rd-period leads like it’s going out of style. THAT is what truly concerns me here.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 12/10/13 at 11:53 PM ET

WingedRider's avatar

and their goaltending’s been sub-par

Gus has fortunately played well for a backup. When was Gus’s last bad game?

Call a Spade a Spade, Howie is going through a bad run, his stats are near the bottom of the league!  Shit happens, he will have to work himself out of it.  The Sochi goalie selections will bear out his ongoing problems. JMO

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 12/11/13 at 12:07 AM ET

Chet's avatar

yet again, on the tying goal…WTF was quincey doing?

they say +/- is a phantom stat that doesn’t really mean much, but goals-against when he’s on the ice…he’s just demonstrably bad. often. the most frustrating wing to watch this season, and given cleary’s poor play (cleary just whiffed on a great setup in the 1st on the PP…he’s just too slow these days), that’s saying a lot.

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 12/11/13 at 12:08 AM ET

George Malik's avatar

I thought Gus was crap after giving up that “puck gets under him” goal against the Isles and wasn’t very good against the Panthers.

I was feeling ill when the Wings were up 2-0. The quick take might be all I can give you tonight. :(

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 12/11/13 at 12:13 AM ET

calquake's avatar

Is the shootout Howard’s fault? Not when the Wings can’t score in it.

But they did.  Jimmy is only one of numerous problems on the Wings.  At present, even with absent players in, they are a little better than average.  Luckily they are now in the East where a record like this will get your team in the playoffs.  If they were still out West they’d be in ninth place and trending downward.  I’m an optimistic sort but unless something drastic happens the Wings will fall in the first round of the playoffs.  Perhaps that will hasten the youth movement because I’d rather lose a little more to play youth over non-performing vets.  I’m looking directly at you Weiss, Quincey, Sammy and Cleary.  If those players were just playing up to perceived expectations there would be no need for this discussion.

Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Uniquake, workin' on my manifesto on 12/11/13 at 12:19 AM ET

DocF's avatar

I was feeling sort of good when the Florida feed I was watching pronounced the Wings had won 72% of the first period faceoffs.  The final total tells a different story.

I am inclined to agree that the team needs a defense man, but who can they get, who can they afford?

I also was astounded to watch every time the other team had the puck in the Red Wings end and he was on the ice how passive Weiss was.  He made it like playing against a power play every time.

Part of the problem is the total lack of chemistry on most of the lines right now. 

I just do not have any quick answer.  I do know that something needs to be done to light a fire under the team.  The usual solution to that is to fire the coach.

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 12/11/13 at 01:32 AM ET


Didn’t see anything after the 2nd period. I thought they had the game under control. I said back in the first that they were playing well, and they just had to do it for 60 minutes to get a win.

Why can’t they do it?

Posted by CrimsonPhoenix on 12/11/13 at 01:45 AM ET

George Malik's avatar

Didn’t see anything after the 2nd period? Neither did Wings fans. That was the problem.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 12/11/13 at 01:56 AM ET

perfection's avatar

Yeah, I thought the team played pretty well all in all and so did Howard. It was a travesty that goal was waived off. It wasn’t close to interference. Just a terrible call. That would have changed the game. Also, If Kronner’s OT blast is a mm lower it’s a goal. You cannot come any closer. So, let’s not pretend like we got destroyed tonight. We should have won, sure, and yeah, we definitely let them back in the game in the 3rd, but I think the boys probably enjoyed the sun a little much, Dats was shaking off some cobwebs, we’re still missing Z, Helm, and DDK and yes, I agree that our shootout is a mess and the goalies are not confident. I did like Babs mixing it up, seeing that’s all he can really do, but this game didn’t seem as ominous to me as it does to you George. It’s a game that’s easily forgettable if we can follow up with a win against Tampa.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 12/11/13 at 02:58 AM ET


Howard is absolutely culpable for the s.o. losses. I’ll have to look around and see if I can find goalie save% on the year in the nhl for the s.o., but I would absolutely bet Jimmy is the worst in the league with a reasonable minimum# of attempts against. Seems to me he’s letting 2 of 3 most nights when the average is probably around 30%.

Posted by teldar on 12/11/13 at 10:55 AM ET


League sv% in the s.o. is 67.04%. Howard’s sv% is 40. He’s worst in the league with a minimum of 10 attempts against. The only other goalie in the league with sub 50% saves with 10 or more attempts is Ben Scrivens. Nobody else is below 55%.  So yeah. Howard’s been terrible this year. His positioning is awful and he looks slow and unsure of where the puck is this year. To me at least.

Posted by teldar on 12/11/13 at 11:06 AM ET


I suppose the fact that the shooters are 27th in the league at 13% doesn’t help Howard, but the Wings will never win with Howard letting in 60%.

Posted by teldar on 12/11/13 at 11:11 AM ET

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